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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on December 23, 2023, 12:58

Title: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 23, 2023, 12:58
While they were on tour in malawi the wazekwa brothers rejoined over there and ordered that each musician gives 200 dollars out of the 500 they received from the concert which they all refused to do and they went and gossiped to their big brother ya felly who got so angry at the musicians for the version they reported to him that he just went to paris straight away and started having plans of disbanding in the heat of the moment and musicians are furious and wanting to disband the group because they have already experienced three times something similar with their arrival after lucrative concerts and the previous times they even took everything
they are influencing their brother to copy the maison mere model via a proverb " a good children feeds his dad part of the money he got" to justify the percentage they want to take,alluding to how for example heritier or celeo used to be taked 2 3 5k straight on stage when the OG big donors like didi kinuani who could randomly come and hand 10 20 K on stage to one of them were coming and they had to give a percentage
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Franco Pepe Kalle on December 23, 2023, 13:20
Why would Felix bring his brothers. He made a big blunder here. It was totally unnecessary.
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Manzambi94 on December 23, 2023, 13:58
While they were on tour in malawi the wazekwa brothers rejoined over there and ordered that each musician gives 200 dollars out of the 500 they received from the concert which they all refused to do and they went and gossiped to their big brother ya felly who got so angry at the musicians for the version they reported to him that he just went to paris straight away and started having plans of disbanding in the heat of the moment and musicians are furious and wanting to disband the group because they have already experienced three times something similar with their arrival after lucrative concerts and the previous times they even took everything
they are influencing their brother to copy the maison mere model via a proverb " a good children feeds his dad part of the money he got" to justify the percentage they want to take,alluding to how for example heritier or celeo used to be taked 2 3 5k straight on stage when the OG big donors like didi kinuani who could randomly come and hand 10 20 K on stage to one of them were coming and they had to give a percentage
Wazekwa is just a weak man, tbh, kicked Gessac but then wanted to make peace with him to not lose credibility,  doesn't give his musician cars, and then now he also wants to take their money?  And I say him, because he is responsible, yes his brother are partly to blame but come on he is a 50 year old plus man, doesn't he know that he should be the guy calling the big shots?
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 23, 2023, 14:23
61 lol
he has just decided to hand them too much power,he had opportunity to work with a group of young managers,but had to decline under their pressure and them convincing him that those managers would "exploit" him whereas with them he'd have full control of the income
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 23, 2023, 16:00
So Wazekmpiaka is still going through his midlife crisis then
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on December 23, 2023, 16:02
I said it before, Wazekwa is not a smart man
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: SLK97 on December 23, 2023, 16:06
Here we go again. Cultura is just imploding at this point.
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 23, 2023, 16:32
handleing cultura has become like a side business to him,thats why he trusts his brothers blindly to take care of it and that why he got so mad at joss ceden and co for rebelling,because if they stand  automatically the rest will see that the big boys stood so we must also voice our opinion more,he tried to get junior wendo to come back and play that role of the good soldier who keeps the group in harmony  since the audios had weakened a bit the relationship of trust with eclipse but nobody takes wendo that seriously so he abandoned the idea lol
lol just texted him some minutes ago he voiced me back like "petit na nga batu na yo mutu pasi moyen te " ,i hope his brothers did not put a spell on him or something,the level of trust he has for them is beyond normal at this point
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 23, 2023, 16:36
handleing cultura has become like a side business to him,thats why he trusts his brothers blindly to take care of it and that why he got so mad at joss ceden and co for rebelling,because if they stand  automatically the rest will see that the big boys stood so we must also voice our opinion more,he tried to get junior wendo to come back and play that role of the good soldier who keeps the group in harmony  since the audios had weakened a bit the relationship of trust with eclipse but nobody takes wendo that seriously so he abandoned the idea lol
lol just texted him some minutes ago he voiced me back like "petit na nga batu na yo mutu pasi moyen te " ,i hope his brothers did not put a spell on him or something,the level of trust he has for them is beyond normal at this point
One of his brothers lives here in London even.
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: shamala on December 24, 2023, 05:17
Mixing family with business
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on December 24, 2023, 20:39
Mr. Indien frappe encore. :D
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Matebu on December 25, 2023, 01:13
@Archos - the old days of you and I trying to defend Wazekwa has long faded kiekie. I don’t even know what to say anymore
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 25, 2023, 03:02
https://youtu.be/C9C2eFCOWN8

fleury fleur confirms news that wazekwa fired the whole group and told them to look for a leader within them to continue the group without him and that he'd start another band  and that many members were even crying because they spent all their adult live there(some like indice arriving in the group not even being 15years old and now heading towards 40's)
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Wenge1995 on December 25, 2023, 03:17
https://youtu.be/C9C2eFCOWN8

fleury fleur confirms news that wazekwa fired the whole group and told them to look for a leader within them to continue the group without him and that he'd start another band  and that many members were even crying because they spent all their adult live there(some like indice arriving in the group not even being 15years old and now heading towards 40's)

But why? Why fire all of them just like that? Has this ever happened in music before
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Manzambi94 on December 25, 2023, 05:58
https://youtu.be/C9C2eFCOWN8

fleury fleur confirms news that wazekwa fired the whole group and told them to look for a leader within them to continue the group without him and that he'd start another band  and that many members were even crying because they spent all their adult live there(some like indice arriving in the group not even being 15years old and now heading towards 40's)
... this man lost his mind tbh
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: shamala on December 25, 2023, 07:28
Hehehe .... This is unbelievable
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Manzambi94 on December 25, 2023, 08:33
Firing Indice Nikkei, Eclipse and the many other who stayed with him through thick and thin especially eclipse who always rejected those 10k offers from Koffi to join and stayed loyal since always get repaid like this? I hope they join Ceden Play and make Like Les Marquis leadership wars will happen but tbh, way better then to leave like this, man firing that Big Booty dancer is even crazier Ya Felix
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on December 25, 2023, 11:11
https://youtu.be/C9C2eFCOWN8

fleury fleur confirms news that wazekwa fired the whole group and told them to look for a leader within them to continue the group without him and that he'd start another band  and that many members were even crying because they spent all their adult live there(some like indice arriving in the group not even being 15years old and now heading towards 40's)


Archos all I need from you right now is the contact or access to the big booty dancer, she needs me right now in this time of needs  ;D
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 25, 2023, 18:57
hahahaa samantha,i hope for you that koffi does not snap her up c est que wana kutu bosana,guantanamo direct  :D :D :D
i am hearing one of the female dancers  openly confronted him and called him a coward for being so influenced by his brothers  and always changeing for the worse when they are around i hope for you that its her you can be sure that she'll never see the face of cultura again
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Manzambi94 on December 25, 2023, 22:43
hahahaa samantha,i hope for you that koffi does not snap her up c est que wana kutu bosana,guantanamo direct  :D :D :D
i am hearing one of the female dancers  openly confronted him and called him a coward for being so influenced by his brothers  and always changeing for the worse when they are around i hope for you that its her you can be sure that she'll never see the face of cultura again
Man I really hope that she leaves the music world and she comes in France or Belgium so we can actually have a chance to meet her and be with her
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Matebu on December 25, 2023, 23:30
lol, y’all need Jesus on this holy day. Captain save a h** when the whole ship has sunken  ;D

I think if one of us want to become a band leader (a real one at that) now is the chance. Maybe we can pool together and lead by committee Cultra
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on December 26, 2023, 00:23
hahahaa samantha,i hope for you that koffi does not snap her up c est que wana kutu bosana,guantanamo direct  :D :D :D
i am hearing one of the female dancers  openly confronted him and called him a coward for being so influenced by his brothers  and always changeing for the worse when they are around i hope for you that its her you can be sure that she'll never see the face of cultura again


Vraiment Mopao ameka kokota na bilanga na ngai te  ;D
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 26, 2023, 00:29
lol, y’all need Jesus on this holy day. Captain save a h** when the whole ship has sunken  ;D

I think if one of us want to become a band leader (a real one at that) now is the chance. Maybe we can pool together and lead by committee Cultra
Of all groups you want us to lead you pick cultra not even our beloved QL but cultra  ;D ;D
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 26, 2023, 01:20
looks like they are settling the issues,saw the dancers and the musicians in studio
or its a carbon copy of what happened with extra musica,where all the group was moving then a couple got either bribed or just ashamed to be under somebody's leadership other than their boss
and they also were doing a message from studio exactly like what became nouvel horizon without clearly saying that they left,yet
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 26, 2023, 02:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmNC3FzzMEw&t=12s
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: shamala on December 26, 2023, 04:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmNC3FzzMEw&t=12s

Summary please
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on December 26, 2023, 11:39
Sad……Eclipse is scared of failure. He has seen the result of Gesac and uses that to stay with Wazekwa regardless of the bad treatments….he needs to man up.
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 26, 2023, 11:46
You can see that he even lost weight,i am certain its because of him that most made the u turn because they did not see who else could lead them
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on December 26, 2023, 15:13
You can see that he even lost weight,i am certain its because of him that most made the u turn because they did not see who else could lead them

Facts, he’s the biggest influence behind Wazekwa
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: shamala on December 26, 2023, 15:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmNC3FzzMEw&t=12s

Summary please
Have they left with Cultur or they are still with Wazekwa?
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 26, 2023, 16:38
they had left but the fact some key members like eclipse backtracked and that they had a france tour announced for the start of next year( just to record something i think) took them back probably to go and then run away i would assume 
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 26, 2023, 18:09
Sad……Eclipse is scared of failure. He has seen the result of Gesac and uses that to stay with Wazekwa regardless of the bad treatments….he needs to man up.

He is to waz like seguin to jb and kakol to werra,these guys see their leaders like gods,man actually went as far as kneeling down when audios popped up,in the comments of the various reposts of the video a friend of eclipse says you can clearly feel that the man is stressed on his face but he does not have that extra touch of pride of just risking it all so he plays it safe
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on December 26, 2023, 18:13
I feel bad for him, guys this is the result when you depend on someone for everything and now you don’t know how to stand on your own feet.
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on December 27, 2023, 19:20
he should have never sold his private business and blindly believe the promises especially knowing how toxic it becomes once the brothers leave europe for africa he'd have funds now to go solo like a man
https://fb.watch/pccirZ4wis/
here fleury who is the guy who they all called to inform of what was going on as he was in europe says that they called but were still were hoping for the wazekwa's to calm down,they were not brave enough to cross the border and that some are still with him
haha this guy's irony is top notch
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Manzambi94 on December 28, 2023, 00:20
he should have never sold his private business and blindly believe the promises especially knowing how toxic it becomes once the brothers leave europe for africa he'd have funds now to go solo like a man
https://fb.watch/pccirZ4wis/
here fleury who is the guy who they all called to inform of what was going on as he was in europe says that they called but were still were hoping for the wazekwa's to calm down,they were not brave enough to cross the border and that some are still with him
haha this guy's irony is top notch

Tbh he should have just went  to Koffi, take the money and leave music all togheter, I don't know what he sees in Wazekwa that is so expecting, if we have to be completely honest, is Eclipse and the other Atalalkus who gives like to CULTURA and I have still never heard anyone mention even one of Wazekwa's rhumbas both solo and with group
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: shamala on December 28, 2023, 07:14
What is Eclipse saying here?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qjFQLaMO2cU
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: archos on January 01, 2024, 21:51
i suggested to wazekwa to name eclipse vice president and reward him with a car for all the good services and sacrifices he did for years wazekwa said we'll see( which probably means he'll influence a donor to do it )
lol ceden will roast him surely,he now calls  eclipse in an interview after that "senateur a vie"since he decided to demote eclipse form chef d'orchestre role(senator for life,which the status former president joseph kabila has)which ceden has been calling gesac as gesac is not the chef d'orchestre but has a very very influential role
Title: Re: APPARENTLY ANOTHER CRISIS HAPPENING IN CULTURA
Post by: Manzambi94 on January 01, 2024, 22:03
i suggested to wazekwa to name eclipse vice president and reward him with a car for all the good services and sacrifices he did for years wazekwa said we'll see( which probably means he'll influence a donor to do it )
lol ceden will roast him surely,he now calls  eclipse in an interview after that "senateur a vie"since he decided to demote eclipse form chef d'orchestre role(senator for life,which the status former president joseph kabila has)which ceden has been calling gesac as gesac is not the chef d'orchestre but has a very very influential role
Tbh Wazekwa should put Eclipse back as a chef.
First is so humiliating for Eclipse to see a guy like Champs Elysees being a che second amongst all the crisis There was no person more loyal then Eclipse refusing 10k especially at the time that Koffi sent it to him was incredibly loyal from Eclipse to humiliate him like that when he is the one who tbh saved Wazekwa's career for many times is just cruel, Champs Elysee is even worse as a chef cause when he was speaking he had very few people cheering for him in that video they posted on the Wazekwa's channel. Wazekwa is risking to lose all of his credibility