Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on April 10, 2024, 13:45
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https://youtu.be/1CtjRYvwpYw
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De bébé wendo à papa tshanda… good luck to Mr ‘the real tilapia ‘
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https://youtu.be/1CtjRYvwpYw
Mmmm I hope his career will go well, but still to this day no F'Victeam offshot has ever been successful, tnh the group system is kinda dying, out of the Deplick, But Na Filet, Heritier, Fabregs, Ferre, Fally, Felix, JB,s Werra, and Koffi's group you only have Wenge MM (Fabregas, Deplick, Heritier, Bill etc.) Fally (QL) But Na Fillet(Fabregas) and then the rest total emptyness, which is sad but at the same time people can't listen and support everybody.
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https://youtu.be/1CtjRYvwpYw
Mmmm I hope his career will go well, but still to this day no F'Victeam offshot has ever been successful, tnh the group system is kinda dying, out of the Deplick, But Na Filet, Heritier, Fabregs, Ferre, Fally, Felix, JB,s Werra, and Koffi's group you only have Wenge MM (Fabregas, Deplick, Heritier, Bill etc.) Fally (QL) But Na Fillet(Fabregas) and then the rest total emptyness, which is sad but at the same time people can't listen and support everybody.
There's also a lot of sabotaging behind the scenes from the big teams to ensure spinoff groups don't survive. Also, it's prohibitively expensive to maintain a new group while recording an album and securing contracts for tours.
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Exactly thats why i dont agree with people questioning nouvel horizon for those leaving,what you just said plays a huge role in that,they have even staff members such as the maman presidente(which is a very crucial role) who have switched to roga and literally one of the external co-founder rostel bakwa who was in studio with those who ran away in europe
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The real tilapia lol…….man this guy can’t dance or sing, no wonder why he stayed that long
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The real tilapia lol…….man this guy can’t dance or sing, no wonder why he stayed that long
i dont know whether there is a correlation but suddenly the guy who brought him in and used his influence so that he goes above some who were there way before him,nathy lokole falls out with fally and not even two months after he leaves
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Exactly thats why i dont agree with people questioning nouvel horizon for those leaving,what you just said plays a huge role in that,they have even staff members such as the maman presidente(which is a very crucial role) who have switched to roga and literally one of the external co-founder rostel bakwa who was in studio with those who ran away in europe
Sonor must be livid why all of a sudden lot of people are leaving Nouvel Horizon? I thought that given that they had a monthly allowance from Universal they were alright but as I have said before Universal is not a good muscolare label to sign to especially the deal Sonor made of that 360 deal
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Exactly thats why i dont agree with people questioning nouvel horizon for those leaving,what you just said plays a huge role in that,they have even staff members such as the maman presidente(which is a very crucial role) who have switched to roga and literally one of the external co-founder rostel bakwa who was in studio with those who ran away in europe
Sonor must be livid why all of a sudden lot of people are leaving Nouvel Horizon? I thought that given that they had a monthly allowance from Universal they were alright but as I have said before Universal is not a good muscolare label to sign to especially the deal Sonor made of that 360 deal
If I had to guess, it's possible that it is only the founding members of the Nouvel Horizon that likely receive a salary from Universal. Remember, the profit from streaming music is considerably smaller than physical sales which is why a lot of recording contracts are 360 deals.
Because the label doesn't eat big from sales, Universal need a percentage of the group's money from each concert and related sponsorship (their initial donor from Primus, they get a mention on their generique Choc).
It also doesn't help that Congo is poor country, the majority of citizens cannot afford to spend money regularly for concerts like they do in Europe, United States of America, Canada, and East Asia. That's why some Congolese artist are going the afrobeat direction, they're going where the money is...even if we don't like the music direction
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Exactly thats why i dont agree with people questioning nouvel horizon for those leaving,what you just said plays a huge role in that,they have even staff members such as the maman presidente(which is a very crucial role) who have switched to roga and literally one of the external co-founder rostel bakwa who was in studio with those who ran away in europe
Sonor must be livid why all of a sudden lot of people are leaving Nouvel Horizon? I thought that given that they had a monthly allowance from Universal they were alright but as I have said before Universal is not a good muscolare label to sign to especially the deal Sonor made of that 360 deal
bro its the fights which cause that,remember wenge split,some betrayed bcbg for maison mere or vice versa or les marquis when it started some maison mere guys went or maison mere lured les marquis people,thats how our music works putting the offshot through every type of challenge and the bigger group history wise most often than not win at that as they are more foundation more strong roots so once they bounce back a little they are appealing to join again
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has anyone else heard the two emerging rumours or even three about his departure
first theory is that he was complaining in private about the fact they received just 200 dollars for the recent tours and it reached the hierarchy so he anticipated being victim of kati f'victeam's version of 12
Second one is that he left because of koffi wanting to produce him,like the crop of boussole golet kabuya cousteau were also accused of having left to be produced by koffi which turned out false
and another one is that its orchestrated buzz to reclaim full domination of the spotlight
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several pro fally guys of internet have attacked him already lol i would not be fuming to lose a guy like him he is just a lucky guy
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lol did you guys see some golois calling him "judas de nuances"
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Exactly thats why i dont agree with people questioning nouvel horizon for those leaving,what you just said plays a huge role in that,they have even staff members such as the maman presidente(which is a very crucial role) who have switched to roga and literally one of the external co-founder rostel bakwa who was in studio with those who ran away in europe
Sonor must be livid why all of a sudden lot of people are leaving Nouvel Horizon? I thought that given that they had a monthly allowance from Universal they were alright but as I have said before Universal is not a good muscolare label to sign to especially the deal Sonor made of that 360 deal
Who else has left other than Papy Bastin? I saw that Rossen Yaourt joined the group.
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The real tilapia lol…….man this guy can’t dance or sing, no wonder why he stayed that long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiHya2dDX4
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The real tilapia lol…….man this guy can’t dance or sing, no wonder why he stayed that long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiHya2dDX4
My point exactly, can’t sing or dance….singing off tune
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Man what happened to F’Victeam? That project was the best Fally had. That was the right formula.
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Man what happened to F’Victeam? That project was the best Fally had. That was the right formula.
Fally simply doesn't care about having a string group, him alone is enough, tbh I don't know why he keeps all those people around when he clearly doesn't care take for example someone like Papy Komvo who enterwd late in Fally's groupin his 30s which is usually when you either become a big star after years of trying but falling (Burna Boy) or when you already were succesf in your teens and you reach your peak (Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, Drake Kanye West etc.) To then leave at 51 which is almost an automatic suicide cause you are 51 so naturally young women won't even look at your direction and with guys of your age busy with other things and guys younger then you focus on other artist, tbh I don't see any scope in keeping this group
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Man what happened to F’Victeam? That project was the best Fally had. That was the right formula.
Fally simply doesn't care about having a string group, him alone is enough, tbh I don't know why he keeps all those people around when he clearly doesn't care take for example someone like Papy Komvo who enterwd late in Fally's groupin his 30s which is usually when you either become a big star after years of trying but falling (Burna Boy) or when you already were succesf in your teens and you reach your peak (Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, Drake Kanye West etc.) To then leave at 51 which is almost an automatic suicide cause you are 51 so naturally young women won't even look at your direction and with guys of your age busy with other things and guys younger then you focus on other artist, tbh I don't see any scope in keeping this group
True, Fally makes music for a hobby and his group is just an accompaniment. He proved himself in Quartier Latin, he confirmed his success as a solo artist, he proved himself as a crossover talent (his features on afrobeats and Sweet Life) and he managed a decent group with Libre Parcours – that hunger isn't there.
All of the important questions about his career has been answered, the music fuels his business and the rest is for his pleasure. The same with Ferre , although I feel like Ferre puts a bit more effort.
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Man what happened to F’Victeam? That project was the best Fally had. That was the right formula.
Fally simply doesn't care about having a string group, him alone is enough, tbh I don't know why he keeps all those people around when he clearly doesn't care take for example someone like Papy Komvo who enterwd late in Fally's groupin his 30s which is usually when you either become a big star after years of trying but falling (Burna Boy) or when you already were succesf in your teens and you reach your peak (Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, Drake Kanye West etc.) To then leave at 51 which is almost an automatic suicide cause you are 51 so naturally young women won't even look at your direction and with guys of your age busy with other things and guys younger then you focus on other artist, tbh I don't see any scope in keeping this group
True, Fally makes music for a hobby and his group is just an accompaniment. He proved himself in Quartier Latin, he confirmed his success as a solo artist, he proved himself as a crossover talent (his features on afrobeats and Sweet Life) and he managed a decent group with Libre Parcours – that hunger isn't there.
All of the important questions about his career has been answered, the music fuels his business and the rest is for his pleasure. The same with Ferre , although I feel like Ferre puts a bit more effort.
I gotta disagree with you there bro, guys like Jb, Bill, Adolphe, Celeo etc treat music more like a hobby whilst Fally, Ferre, Koffi treat it like a job because they stay consistant. He lost the hunger he had a bit a few years ago but he definitely got it back for Formule 7 and the 3 Arena concerts he did. Libres Parcours was a good album but F’Victeam failed at promoting themselves so Fally just stopped caring that much.
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Man what happened to F’Victeam? That project was the best Fally had. That was the right formula.
Fally simply doesn't care about having a string group, him alone is enough, tbh I don't know why he keeps all those people around when he clearly doesn't care take for example someone like Papy Komvo who enterwd late in Fally's groupin his 30s which is usually when you either become a big star after years of trying but falling (Burna Boy) or when you already were succesf in your teens and you reach your peak (Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, Drake Kanye West etc.) To then leave at 51 which is almost an automatic suicide cause you are 51 so naturally young women won't even look at your direction and with guys of your age busy with other things and guys younger then you focus on other artist, tbh I don't see any scope in keeping this group
True, Fally makes music for a hobby and his group is just an accompaniment. He proved himself in Quartier Latin, he confirmed his success as a solo artist, he proved himself as a crossover talent (his features on afrobeats and Sweet Life) and he managed a decent group with Libre Parcours – that hunger isn't there.
All of the important questions about his career has been answered, the music fuels his business and the rest is for his pleasure. The same with Ferre , although I feel like Ferre puts a bit more effort.
I gotta disagree with you there bro, guys like Jb, Bill, Adolphe, Celeo etc treat music more like a hobby whilst Fally, Ferre, Koffi treat it like a job because they stay consistant. He lost the hunger he had a bit a few years ago but he definitely got it back for Formule 7 and the 3 Arena concerts he did. Libres Parcours was a good album but F’Victeam failed at promoting themselves so Fally just stopped caring that much.
How have they failed to promote themselves? Embassy despite not being the best singer or dancer was the guy most known by Congolese people, what Fally gave him as an incentivi to continue? Nothing, and when Libre Parcours came out Fally was so reluctabt to promote the album, so much so that if you listen to Libre Parcours #3 you can hear how is horribly mixed compared to the rest of the songs of the Album, yes Fally love syrrounding himself of weak men but at the same time it is not like Fally did anything to promote these guys for example ple the guys on the F'Victeam label, where are they? Where is Master Virus etc.
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The first part of the rumor I heard as well , he was complaining about the money received from the tours! With all the success fally is having, why would he leave? Nathan “La Star” probably receives the same type of pay so why complain… When you see a low caliber artist like Ambassy leaving a group you question why… he has no established presence where he could make it as a solo artist…
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another version i heard yesterday is that him and a couple of others "scammed" money like 20K from people promising to sing them a song feat their boss since here and there their boss talks about giving them songs but then it never really materialized for years but they were doing it behind his back and upping to 20k promising to convince him to sing then he was made aware of it as one of the customers managed to get in touch with him directly which was not possible in the first place hence why they started "from the bottom" and there his boss was like do these guys think i am stupid so mind games started with them and the least resilient in accepting those indirect reactions of humiliation ambassy left especially as his audio talking about his boss also reached the hierarchy and their boss had to pay back some customers to avoid controversy in his name
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another version i heard yesterday is that him and a couple of others "scammed" money like 20K from people promising to sing them a song feat their boss since here and there their boss talks about giving them songs but then it never really materialized for years but they were doing it behind his back and upping to 20k promising to convince him to sing then he was made aware of it as one of the customers managed to get in touch with him directly which was not possible in the first place hence why they started "from the bottom" and there his boss was like do these guys think i am stupid so mind games started with them and the least resilient in accepting those indirect reactions of humiliation ambassy left especially as his audio talking about his boss also reached the hierarchy and their boss had to pay back some customers to avoid controversy in his name
Comgolese leaders really need to leave that KiYankee attitude behind, and Fally is actually one of the best leaders cause he pays them (peanuts but still pays them), I have made some calculation our ticket for Fally concert of Fally was 68 Euro and we were on the center, let's say the average price for the Concer was 100 Euro ok? Let's make 100 Euro for 15k spot like it was there in Belgium and the sum is 1.5 milion Euro, so now imagine having friends, family and acquaintances of the various embassy, etc. To see you thinking you made big money but actually you got your usual 100 dollars, no human being will be okay with that my boss made 1500000 Euro in a concert (a single concert not even counting when they have 10 plus dates tours and you only get paid 100 or sums like that, I don't condone their scamming but I understand why they did it, if Fally really wants a group he needs to change this thing.
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Fally Lost His Artist With The Most Media Visibility. Ambassy is a good singer to me (even though Smoke from La Team Wata beat him bad in that battle made him look like a faux chanteur) and his dancing improved. Hopefully Maiko takes his spot.