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Title: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: archos on April 25, 2024, 16:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MylTOmqvsRM&ab_channel=BADEGATSCHENGENTV

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Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Seben_Maniac on April 25, 2024, 18:12
What’s wrong with the current guy? I know he’s not as good as Makaba but he seemed to be improving and was better than the other guys that were initially tested. Though this guy seems good too
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: archos on April 25, 2024, 22:23
i think deep down werra is not getting EXACTLY what he wants from his soloists,if you take a deep look at it every single maison mere soloist(if you take out the 4X4 ones japonais and mbokaliya) are good looking confident on stage and dancing at times and the less good looking sent to mi solo by default
and certainly with for example ong bak or mayi ya kamba who was with bill the looks were there but he might not have felt the confidence he wants from them
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Seben_Maniac on April 25, 2024, 22:43
Yeah you’re spot on with everything you stated Archos. I had a feeling that might be the case. Werrason might be cutting himself short, I’m sure there’s a low supply of soloist that are good and charismatic looks wise. He’s already wasted a lot of them over the decades. He should’ve learned his lesson a long time ago
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: shamala on April 26, 2024, 04:37
i think deep down werra is not getting EXACTLY what he wants from his soloists,if you take a deep look at it every single maison mere soloist(if you take out the 4X4 ones japonais and mbokaliya) are good looking confident on stage and dancing at times and the less good looking sent to mi solo by default
and certainly with for example ong bak or mayi ya kamba who was with bill the looks were there but he might not have felt the confidence he wants from them

I also feel  the current guy lacks something. However much they tried to hype him, the fire is not there. In term of soloist supply I would think they are available probably recruiters try to place their own guys instead of looking for talent.
In his defense the current soloust has had a very short learning curve without an understudy
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on April 26, 2024, 08:01
That soloist is Tapis Rouge from Wenge El Paris
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: O-Afrika on April 26, 2024, 10:06

This guy is one of the best I have seen tested by MM.

I guess after Bikorine departure and the void that was left as there was no understudy then. He plays the notes so smoothly .

I also think Werra is rebuilding his team. They new vocalist is good ( who does Fabro/Ndombe/Mabiala) besides being active in dancing and will invigorate the team. He needs at least three more strong vocalists and dancers.

The atalaku part has beefed up well by Wasabo creations.

Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Nkosi on April 28, 2024, 12:11
You are right. Werrason was not impressed by all guys tested since Makaba left but somehow had to settle for Yamukolo and Van Vedes as there was an immediate vacuum. During rehearsals he pays so much attention to how the soloists perform. He would actually even stand next to him. Fans have also been putting pressure on him as they feel WMMM is known for good Soloists. This is why he has reopened the auditions. They are practically  even head hunting now.

My question to you colleagues is that whom would you recommend they head hunt?
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: archos on April 28, 2024, 13:41
alfred solo would have been perfect for maison mere but he likes that freedom of studio session guy otherwise he was meant to join even la team wata when he left from brigade and was also approached to join other groups
he fits what werra expects from his soloist,good looking confident and creative plus he has a bit of that "luck" you want from your soloist,in the sense that a lot of his work end up in success,or at least in attention,some soloists play well but lack that luck
mayi ya kamba could have nailed it but the guy looked like he wanted to shxx on himself as soon as werra was around,and that is the worst thing to do with werra as a soloist,its a shame fil indien is with but na filet or he could have had a return to maison mere,i remember he got arc en ciel extremely shook on his test i dont recall a soloist in the recent 10 plus years being that careless against werra and freely improvising even when he was put a trap on his path by kakol and co changeing suddenly tempo,also fitted that good looking goofy confident trait
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: shamala on April 28, 2024, 19:39

My question to you colleagues is that whom would you recommend they head hunt?

Alfredo Solo
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Longbluesquid on April 29, 2024, 03:08
Isn’t Werra preparing a new album?
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on April 29, 2024, 10:48
Yh, Morote
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: O-Afrika on April 29, 2024, 11:05
alfred solo would have been perfect for maison mere but he likes that freedom of studio session guy otherwise he was meant to join even la team wata when he left from brigade and was also approached to join other groups
he fits what werra expects from his soloist,good looking confident and creative plus he has a bit of that "luck" you want from your soloist,in the sense that a lot of his work end up in success,or at least in attention,some soloists play well but lack that luck
mayi ya kamba could have nailed it but the guy looked like he wanted to shxx on himself as soon as werra was around,and that is the worst thing to do with werra as a soloist,its a shame fil indien is with but na filet or he could have had a return to maison mere,i remember he got arc en ciel extremely shook on his test i dont recall a soloist in the recent 10 plus years being that careless against werra and freely improvising even when he was put a trap on his path by kakol and co changeing suddenly tempo,also fitted that good looking goofy confident trait

There are two other guys tested besides Jiji and the other who played Operation Dragon was also good.

However there's a soloist he tested some years ( who was congratulated by Sarah Solo then) who effortlessly did
 Kapaya, Bikorine partitions.

I wish he stayed.
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: O-Afrika on April 29, 2024, 11:10
https://youtu.be/CyB0ShLbspE?si=aIcLWRdbtXETXB5r whats the name of this soloist and which band was he playing for?
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Manzambi94 on April 29, 2024, 12:40
Sarah solo, with leadership war between Kakol and Makaba EerrShould have predicted that Makaba would have left and Sarah could have been the perfect number one using her in dances or even giving her a song as a singer for now I don't think there is any available guitarist who can take that role,  but yes if Alfred Solo wad available him would have been the greatest
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: SYMPLICITY on April 29, 2024, 13:52
You are right. Werrason was not impressed by all guys tested since Makaba left but somehow had to settle for Yamukolo and Van Vedes as there was an immediate vacuum. During rehearsals he pays so much attention to how the soloists perform. He would actually even stand next to him. Fans have also been putting pressure on him as they feel WMMM is known for good Soloists. This is why he has reopened the auditions. They are practically  even head hunting now.

My question to you colleagues is that whom would you recommend they head hunt?

@Nkosi, totally unrelated......who is that 'new' vocalist who sings almost like Michigan and does Fabregas parts. He sings Likambo in the 24/4/2024 rehearsal from minute 33.59
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: shamala on April 29, 2024, 15:27

My question to you colleagues is whom would you recommend they head hunt?

Is Brian Solo available or Chay Ngenge Soloist?

Alfredo Solo
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: O-Afrika on April 30, 2024, 20:49
With due honesty, Sarah Solo is not that good to the WMM level. Good on rhumbas but not sebene. She's ain't that creative too.
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Seben_Maniac on April 30, 2024, 21:19
With due honesty, Sarah Solo is not that good to the WMM level. Good on rhumbas but not sebene. She's ain't that creative too.
I agree with you here. But do you think she’s better than the current guy(Ya makulu-forgot his name)and the ones recently tested
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Manzambi94 on April 30, 2024, 22:12
With due honesty, Sarah Solo is not that good to the WMM level. Good on rhumbas but not sebene. She's ain't that creative too.
I disagree, she really didn't have time to develop and show her skills, cause one she was a woman so shebwas already facing discrimination by her colleagues and two cause Makaba was trying in every way to make her quit which she actually did, about creatività tbh Makaba was stealing/reinterpreting a lot of guitar partitions like Muselu from Japonais and also the Ya Ngiama Coach from Debarquement cries of Emeneya, when he actually tried to make his creations (Ko Beta Kayi, etc) it was really basic and notnonoar of WMM either



https://youtu.be/01dyuxJXwgg?si=R3kI9nrt7SMVW1Hw

08:28 isnthe sane exact riff of Ya Ngiama Coach


https://youtu.be/S2ZZEo012O0?si=vYvxSAcQxFbEbG1a

06:54

Plus she is way better then the new guys and she had the experience to being able to play even other songs/old songs which I don't think the new guys will have, Ndombolo music isn't like in the past anymore where everybody wanted to be the next Kapaya people now want to be the leader of their own band or just be like Innoss being a one man show surrounded by dancers who helps him perform, so it is extremely hard to find a serious guitarist who won't run away and tbh Werra should stop giving Kakol, Hugo Synthe and others so much power over his band, because this method haven't been working,welost very good guys who could sing well and really cared about the group, for guys who just like Kakol's behind to get promoted  and then what? The quality of the music get lost, peoole have spoken about Fally's Europe tour, Ferre's Double tour, even of Roga Roga going to France to perform at the Casino du Paris, but when was the last time you have heard about Werra? Even JB who was seen the laziest now gets his new music (Zebuka mianly) played in parties, but with Werra is just the Bill & Celeo or the Brigade and Lobeso and occasionali Diego and Prince music you hardly hear any song made in the period of ambulance, Bercy etc. Why? Cuase the spiritual of Wenge got lost and money and favouritism prevaled over raw talent

Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: archos on May 02, 2024, 21:52
the maison mere atalakus are quite poor at doing elder's animation they can and should do much much better than that sometimes they literally mumble to go past a part quick they are lucky nsone has gone old and does not demand as much as he used to,bill celeo brigade lobeso were getting punishment for missing out on intepretation
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Manzambi94 on May 02, 2024, 22:29
the maison mere atalakus are quite poor at doing elder's animation they can and should do much much better than that sometimes they literally mumble to go past a part quick they are lucky nsone has gone old and does not demand as much as he used to,bill celeo brigade lobeso were getting punishment for missing out on intepretation
Yes I have noticed in that concert at La Zamba Playa

https://youtu.be/v_5m1VS0tL8?si=PwV0BdbSfuhALG5F
Jamaïque and Duego literally butchng animation and somet8mes just letting the music play without the proper choirs or cries called

https://youtu.be/v_5m1VS0tL8?si=k5pLBgYG02J_QhP_
11:30 (Diego)

22:30 (Jamaique) what was that?...


59:16 (Diego) ...









Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: O-Afrika on May 04, 2024, 09:18
Sarah stayed for many years and was given a lot of time in concerts but she wasn't that good. To me Ya Mukolo is better as he can literally play all Maison Mere songs and partitions.  I like how Werrason keeps correcting him and how he has adapted to play much better.

However the recently tested guy to me is on another level and matches Kapaya/Mboka Liya. His interpretation of sous soul was 'studio' perfect.

And Vedes Solo is the understudy on MISolo.
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: archos on May 04, 2024, 09:39
And he seems to have that goofy side werra likes from his soloist i am sure if werra refines his look a bit and makes him fully adjust to the pace of all the songs he might now have got what he was looking for
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Nkosi on May 05, 2024, 18:14
The guy was recruited and already joined the first team. He was exchanging on misolo during rehearsals with Van Vedes.
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: Nkosi on May 05, 2024, 18:18
On animators, I agree with Archos Jamaica and Golberg were so relaxed but I'm happy that we now have Wasabo who has literally pushed Golbert aside and is giving Jamaica headache. He can also do all Bill Clinton's parts so well as he speaks the language fluently.
Title: Re: WERRASON TESTING YET ANOTHER SOLOIST
Post by: O-Afrika on May 05, 2024, 20:55
The guy was recruited and already joined the first team. He was exchanging on misolo during rehearsals with Van Vedes.
@Nkosi
Which guitarist are you referring to here? Any videos of the guy in Mi-solo?