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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on July 26, 2013, 13:46
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most of the long awaited albums for this year have been released
only remain fleche india ingeta,adamu na eva,maitre d'école of papa wemba and balle de match but ya victoire
since i am much closer to clan wenge than any other group,i will give update on fleche ingeta and balle de match
- FLECHE INGETA
as it stands, the majority of the work by musicians is done, now its werra doing his singing parts,mabanga and some clips
dont know the definite number of songs but like almost all albums recently released its between 10 and 20
kakol got 3 songs,heritier two,the rest of those who were given opportunity got one(adt yanki mpuy,gemerose,deplick,miel de son,japonais,bouton,capuccino,ali mbonda...) and of course the leader werrason himself
there are like in most current albums much more rumbas than sebene,it would even had been worse if werra did not decide lately to add two sebene songs
as for generiques,like its known atalaku prince has returned and he has brought with him a complete generique of 7 minutes he has proposed to werra but i dont think werra will choose it since diego cao,lobeso and brandon avatar were already working on generiques
-BALLE DE MATCH
few months ago,the list of those of who were given songs was chai ngenge,didi kalombo,abel de charme,maitre ficarré,zulema,atshouda,roger ngandu,patou solo,jeremy kitubu and seguin maniata plus jb's songs but in the meantime jb decided to give songs to jules kibens,nono fudji,mignon abraham,cellulaire yankobo,gentamycine,zoulou mbonda,nono fudji ,jdl,sunda bass and rio de janeiro
the fact many musicians were recently given songs means studio session are taking more time but well over half of the job is done like in the case of maison mere most of the remaining work is for the leader
the situation about chai ngenge and sunda bass could have an influence aswell on the length of the sessions
like with maison mere, much much more rumbas than sebene songs
as for the generique,they already did one main generique of 12 minutes and planned two other generiques but the main generique is abandoned and replace by a shorter generique of 6-7 minutes of more recent animations
also for the first time since feux de l'amour,there will be a feminine voice in one of jb's songs
that girl is a graduate from National Institue of Arts and will just sing in the chorus
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Archos, who releases such intelligence information to you? Just wondering....
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Thanks for the updates, but I will also echo emobcbg's quetion! I won't be surprised if you are close to JB himself or Roger Ngandu!....lol Any reasons why JB decided to change who to give tracks?
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JB should not allow those two clowns, kibense and Rio to coin a song each....were are the bana bona? we need new new blood....
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yes i have some friends and family in both groups and i told them i am on a english speaking forum about congolese and african music so i try to get some info from them and share since unlike most of them i can communicate in english
its like some free promotion i am doing them lol
actually did not change who to give tracks,i mean he did not remove song from one of the first list,he added the others so that everybody is satisfied and then after that full focus on chemin de fer and later on abraham's album
like i often said on the former forum, one song can generate about ten times the salary group employees get,so its a good strategy for those leaders to save their money, paying them peanuts but letting them earn enough through songs
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bana boma participated on kibens song,on of of jb's songs, on seguin's,on ficarré's and many more
it seems that like he said when he presented them,jb is really eager to turn them into stars
they are fully integrated in the group and i can reveal that the way jb gave them so much space is not pleasing some singers who were in the gorup before them
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Chai's departure confirmed he has pulled out the usual " i was never paid,i benefited nothing" reason to explain going solo and has already started performing concerts with his concert and recording his album
his song and all his vocal parts are being erased and replaced by other singers
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great we don't have to hear chai in Balle De Match, hopefully the generiques will be good like Kipe ya Yo and Quel est Probleme etc. and I can't wait to hear papa cheri, Abel De Charme and Mignon Abraham and Nono Fudji and Atshouda and hopefully Benjamin Obama. And for Ingeta, archos do you know who sings the respective songs for kakol,adt yani mpuy. And don't Oliver,Cafe roum, and Eboa lotin and Tade have songs? P.s. hopefully these are the last songs Heritier will have with Werra
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Thanx for info archos. Can't you advise these people that it's high time they did rhumba songs which have sebene at the end not just rhumbas and generiques.
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<cite>@jdog said:</cite>
great we don't have to hear chai in Balle De Match, hopefully the generiques will be good like Kipe ya Yo and Quel est Probleme etc. and I can't wait to hear papa cheri, Abel De Charme and Mignon Abraham and Nono Fudji and Atshouda and hopefully Benjamin Obama. And for Ingeta, archos do you know who sings the respective songs for kakol,adt yani mpuy. And don't Oliver,Cafe roum, and Eboa lotin and Tade have songs? P.s. hopefully these are the last songs Heritier will have with Werra
Indeed i forgot olivier,roum eboa and taddet maybe because their songs were supposed to be in suite et fin vol II already
as for kakol songs,i know that one of them is a werra and heritier duet with some other singers having small parts,another was by milito but it seems he left the group so i dont know how they dealt with it
for yanki, i will try to know,at the moment its a well kept secret,its one of the rare songs which are not promoted yet
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thanx for the updates archos
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Thanks Archos, we can't do without you man. Am happy JB to hear you meant JB just added more participants.I was actually thinking of it looking at the first list, it was short meaning less tracks.but its good we BCBG die-hards will be treated to many tracks, I like it that way than the way he did on Kipe-ya-yo and quel est ton probleme! I guess this album will bring a new touch coz I can imagine Zulema, Atchouda, Zulu Mbonda, Abel de Charme and others who have never composed tracks also contribution.good decision by JB. What is the name of the girl from NIA, has she become a permanent member??
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See this is the problem I have with Werra always putting Heritier above everyone else, why does Heritier have a duet with Werra if he already has two songs that slot should be given to singer who have no songs on the album such as Robinho,Rice Matadien or Bebe Djong (I think that's his name ex, guy who sings like Fabregas) or the guy who sings like Didier Lacoste or the short guy who sings like Olivier . And it would be such a shame if Diego Milito really left the group he is such a talented singer.
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also for the first time since feux de l’amour,there will be a feminine voice in one of jb’s songs
that girl is a graduate from National Institue of Arts and will just sing in the chorus
i think BCBG has new dancers!
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I can guarantee you all that there will be new stuff in this CD, you can't have zulema, sakoko, Abraham, atshuda, NF, JB, bana boma, Erick menthe, Abel, etc and expect Trash, this is going to be fire...you will tell me, I told you so...
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balle de match and fleche ingeta expectef for november and december maximum
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Ahhh,i knew these albums would not come out soon,for Balle de match it's probably next year!! :(
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
balle de match and fleche ingeta expectef for november and december maximum
Werrason and JB should just release.....we are tired of this nonsense....
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sly how to post images? i woul like to post balle de match's cd poster(at least the promotional poster,dont know whether its the final one yet)
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i found how to do it lol
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Kiekiekiekiekie,i hope this is just for fun otherwise the album should be renamed ''Mortel Combat'' :lol:
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lol it's actually alain mpela who gave him that idea
i doubt its the final poster since there is no balle de match written there
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It's actually not a bad photo but it doesn't say anything about balle de Match, like sly said it should be renamed "Mortel Combat" lol
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
balle de match and fleche ingeta expectef for november and december maximum
I doubt if it is the album cover.....what I hate about it is the Gothic appearance on his face....that sucks especially for a senior Congolese singer....JB should leave such behavior to Ferre Gola who likes to be a Gothic boy...
Archos, were did you get this image?
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image of balle de match generique
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<cite>@EMOBCBG said:</cite>
I doubt if it is the album cover.....what I hate about it is the Gothic appearance on his face....that sucks especially for a senior Congolese singer....JB should leave such behavior to Ferre Gola who likes to be a Gothic boy...
Archos, were did you get this image?
from bcbg's "webmaster"
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@archos said:
from bcbg's "webmaster"
Is there a new page for BCBG now,i remember back in the days there was one,i can't remember if it was Alain Bany or someone else running it.
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>

image of balle de match generique
What do you mean Archos? Image for balle de match? Or U mean album sleeve, cover...
I like Jb, image, thinner than fat boy image...
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i mean that this image is taken from the clip of one of the generiques in balle de match
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<cite>@Sylvester said:</cite>
Is there a new page for BCBG now,i remember back in the days there was one,i can't remember if it was Alain Bany or someone else running it.
its the guy who put jb's concert extracts on youtube after bein give images by roger ngandu
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
i mean that this image is taken from the clip of one of the generiques in balle de match
I hope he has some good HD videos, because when it comes to videos, JB is not that good....i wonder who shoots them......i was impressed with SS though....
now archos, that still picture looks like its from a slow track.....
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
its the guy who put jb's concert extracts on youtube after bein give images by roger ngandu
I think he is called Total BCBG on Facebook and wengebcbg on YouTube
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fleche ingeta and balle de match both nearing end expected for the dates i mentioned except that bcbg is doing everything to release it well before zenith despite some other artists being authorized to add songs only this month
in fact sakoko;cedric guez,jdl and zygal just got authorization for songs on balle de match
there is also a project of a rumba sung by female dancers mbiliadama,zambrotta and mwana nsuka but it might be for the future group album,as jb wants it to be a serious song not singing for fun like kolo martyrs
23 songs for balle de match and 17 for fleche ingeta so far
good thing is that both groups are also working on clips while in studio so there might be a couple if not the totality of clips ready when albums are out
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maison mere musicians have finished their parts for fleche ingeta at studino ndiaye and are currently working on clips,only remains werra to sing and mabanga,album for november/december
bcbg are also finishing studio sessions in kinshasa tonight in zola tempa studio,then they will go to europe for the 4 or so last sessions like in soyons serieux and also prepare in europe for the concert of zenith which is taken very very seriously
40 visas have been requested by the group and it seems it will be succesful thanks to the producer of zenith concrt
album before zenith concert
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40 visas,i hope JB doesn't take 20 musicians and the rest journalists ,has to be the full band!!!!
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ahaha i am sure at least roger ngandu and maybe mosaka and william tshisekedi will be on the list
jb had a press conference today where he was asked about which artists he will bring,he said till they dont have visas in their hands it would not be smart to say names,but he explained that he wished petit obama was on the list,but he has exams in december so school comes first(which somehow indicates room is open to new musicians and not only kibens,fudji and co)
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Damn 40 visas I hope Abel De Charme gets one.
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If JB Mpiana has to reclaim his 1990s glory, this is the time. He has zennith and an album in the making which is a +. Now to fulfill that, he has to make sure the new album is well recorded, crystal clear and then walk with his head up to zennith. Hey, wait a minute, kibense, Rio should not escort him there but be replaced by energetic young guys. With 40 visas, jb now can go with zulema, Abel, atshuda, and not to forget trezeguet, bebeto and Gladys....we need energy at this concert please......
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emo i will answer you here about zenith and balle de match
jb said yesterday on french radios that the group is coming for last studio sessions(count a month of cd duplication in factories after that) and it will be out before zenith(a bit like internet two weeks before bercy)
and he even promised them to give them a couple of exclusive songs before the official release so now pressure on him to respect the date set
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I hope the recording was up to date...he must have learnt from soyons seriuex....
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Nice one archos, I really do hope we have the album before zenith, I have planned to be at zenith together with a few friends,this is not to be missed, the combattufi better not misbehave.
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Sly, I envy U.......i have seen JB in Zambia but at such crowded and state of the art sound system, I guess U will enjoy.....that is why he also needs a good drummer. Why can't he get the services of champion esthetic? I have no hope in segiun. ARCHOS, please tell jb now.
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rio and kibens will be there i think,because no way they will give over 20 visas to guys who are coming to europe for the first time,and both have loads of passports filled with visas
champion is a solo artist now,and i think seguin will deliver,he always delivers in big concerts that's actually his problem he looks disinterested ometimes when its primus concerts in areas of kin or sunday concerts
the group,according to roger ngandu who is also in paris is rehearsing 11 hours a day under direction of gentamicine and choreographer lukima until mid october thern they will arrive in two groups or in one depending on whether all the 40 visas are given
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lukima
this is the first time am hearing about a choreographer. remember I had asked if BCBG has a choreographer. tell us more about him.add pics or videos
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he is a free agent,not a member of bcbg,he used to be in wazekwa's group then then quartier latin and now he works as a free agent
you can see him here with wazekwa,he has locks and is dressed in black and brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PN6IRhbksHs
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
emo i will answer you here about zenith and balle de match
jb said yesterday on french radios that the group is coming for last studio sessions(count a month of cd duplication in factories after that) and it will be out before zenith(a bit like internet two weeks before bercy)
and he even promised them to give them a couple of exclusive songs before the official release so now pressure on him to respect the date set
There should be no pressure because Ferre and Fally took forever to release their albums especially Ferre
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Salivating indeed.....bcbg le machine of music....this will be great....if successful, bercy will be next.....
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
he is a free agent,not a member of bcbg,he used to be in wazekwa's group then then quartier latin and now he works as a free agent
you can see him here with wazekwa,he has locks and is dressed in black and brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PN6IRhbksHs
Thnx
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-in maison mere,werra planned to record a song in which he sings from first to last minute in paris but he had to go back to kin quickly, they are still working on few rumbas to allow singers like arnaké to participate
one generique will be done in kinshasa with jp kys and the other one in studio dem records of brazzaville
apparently fans agree for bill's participation on one of the generiques,album still before the end of the year
-in bcbg songs are finished except roger ngandu's song "ekoyebana" yet to be started they are at the moment i am writing in angola for a VIP concert
once they are back they will record it and finish the 4 generiques and pick the 2 or 3 best for the cd
like ingeta,album still for end of the year maximum
once album recording is finished,mixing and mastering in paris with the possible participation of alain makaba
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@archos said:
once they are back they will record it and finish the 4 generiques and pick the 2 or 3 best for the cd
Let JB just release all the 4 generiques,you tell him that and we want Makaba on lead on some of the songs.
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I am also for the 4 generiques but i am sure they will say there is too many songs and not enough space it will end up like ficarré's song on roger's song of soyons serieux
there is 20 songs already without the generiques
as for makaba his pariticipation is not certain yet, but would definitely be welcome nobody so far has dealt with jb better than him,their understanding was telepathic back then
genta made me listen to 4 or 5 songs already and its promising so far
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That sounds good archos. I hope you told Genta about the solo guitar, we don't want the forklore songs anymore,they should leave that for Doudou Kibinda and Werrason, we want to hear Patou Solo properly.
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Archos, are U sure genta leaked some songs to U? On a mobile phone?
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Yep,i listened to his song,fudji's song etindikiti,ficarré's double jeu and an extract opf zoulou mbonda's yébela
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
Yep,i listened to his song,fudji's song etindikiti,ficarré's double jeu and an extract opf zoulou mbonda's yébela
Lucky you!
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...So JB is inviting Makaba to rival Young Makaba; fire is brewing... :mrgreen:
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If JB invites makaba to play, no album will beat balle de match.....jb and makaba is fire