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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on December 12, 2013, 10:59

Title: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on December 12, 2013, 10:59
www.youtube.com/tednHnN96iU

Miss the guy on vocals, this was a proper song!!!!
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: shamala on May 11, 2014, 05:34
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Miss the guy on vocals, this was a proper song!!!!

Sly nothing is showing!
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 11, 2014, 12:43
Sly nothing is showing!
I have corrected the link
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on May 11, 2014, 13:45
Richard mukena !!!! The last remnants of proper singers in bcbg. Not those who whisper.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 11, 2014, 13:51
Richard mukena !!!! The last remnants of proper singers in bcbg. Not those who whisper.
Definitely one of the best singers BCBG had at the time. Today BCBG is much powerful on vocals, we only have a couple of passenger ie Rio and Kibens, JDL is okay and don't forget the young musicians who have joined in the last few years and months.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on May 11, 2014, 14:15
by the way this cd Anti terrorism, would be better if segiun mignon played the way I like it to be played. You can get the lovely solo done by ficarre and patuo but the drums were weak.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 11, 2014, 15:32
by the way this cd Anti terrorism, would be better if segiun mignon played the way I like it to be played. You can get the lovely solo done by ficarre and patuo but the drums were weak.
Seguin played very well and the sound was perfect.
Ficarre only played on his song. The generique had Moleso, Mboka Liya and Patou Solo closed it ie all 3 of them played on it. Moleso played solo on most of the other songs with Mboka Liya playing on 2 or so including this one BK Le Senateur.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: masantula on May 11, 2014, 22:41
patty moleso was something else, DJ SLY where is he now days?
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 11, 2014, 23:27
patty moleso was something else, DJ SLY where is he now days?
He's been in Europe since 2006 when Wenge BCBG came to perform after the self imposed ban JB put himself on, he left together with Mboka Liya, Richard Mukena and others including dancers.
Moleso should be in Paris I think (based on the photo updates I see on his facebook page)
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: archos on May 12, 2014, 00:13
yes moleso is in paris,has his own small studio and gives jazz lessons
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: masantula on May 12, 2014, 05:24
thank you DJ & Archos
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 12, 2014, 07:48
yes moleso is in paris,has his own small studio and gives jazz lessons
Wow, he does Jazz too, he must be making money looking at how big he's become,he's eating well. ;D
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: Felo on May 12, 2014, 09:31
This is very good music. I had lost all my interest in JB's music a while ago. Once Blaise Bula and Alain Mpela left BCBG, JB lost the plot of vocalists completely. He ended up with a bunch of squeaking tenors, who could not complement his voice, and the whole vocal unit of the band was in a mess. That is where Werra beat him by balancing the act. You cannot have a vocal unit of only tenors, some of them trying to sing the bass parts and ending up sounding like sleepy frogs. Extra Musica had powerful vocals and choruses by the spectral balance they achieved from the vocal ranges of baritones like Herman and Doudou, through the middle ranges of Bastin etc up to the tenors of Papy Jah and oxygen. On most of his recent albums, JB has not had a good bass or baritone singer and that has thrown the balance into shambles. This guy above sings very well and JB needs to do more and incorporate such in his band.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 12, 2014, 11:42
This is very good music. I had lost all my interest in JB's music a while ago. Once Blaise Bula and Alain Mpela left BCBG, JB lost the plot of vocalists completely. He ended up with a bunch of squeaking tenors, who could not complement his voice, and the whole vocal unit of the band was in a mess. That is where Werra beat him by balancing the act. You cannot have a vocal unit of only tenors, some of them trying to sing the bass parts and ending up sounding like sleepy frogs. Extra Musica had powerful vocals and choruses by the spectral balance they achieved from the vocal ranges of baritones like Herman and Doudou, through the middle ranges of Bastin etc up to the tenors of Papy Jah and oxygen. On most of his recent albums, JB has not had a good bass or baritone singer and that has thrown the balance into shambles. This guy above sings very well and JB needs to do more and incorporate such in his band.
You're 100% right about the balancing of vocals, it's one thing JB does not seem to understand and has failed to do however, he actually has the right balance of singers to do the work and for the particular position left void by the departure of this guy Richard Mukena,there's currently 3 first team singers who can fill the position effectively  the first choice or perfect one being Abel des Charme as number then there's Zulema and Atshuda
Atshuda is the perfect one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXDpz9yZ9Q
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on May 12, 2014, 13:35
Sly, Felo has spat 100% what I say. Thanks felo

But jb has not had insufficient singers, he fails to fire a friend to accommodate good talent, good voices. Rio, kibense, jdl and chai who left, have killed bcbg badly. Secondly, his music is not heavy since the depature of titina. Low drums engulfed by high solo and singing birds.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: archos on May 12, 2014, 13:47
indeed there is many bass singers in bcbg,abel,atshuda,sakoko,zulema,hugo boss of bana boma,kibens used to have that role and was doing it well but now aims to sing higher so there is something lacking but in balle de match they have corrected it

back on molesso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac82CuFbSNw here is an old example of him  including his jazz sound into bcbg's music or also when they were doing bea zodeguem live or the song somewhere on anti terro
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 12, 2014, 13:48
Sly, Felo has spat 100% what I say. Thanks felo

But jb has not had insufficient singers, he fails to fire a friend to accommodate good talent, good voices. Rio, kibense, jdl and chai who left, have killed bcbg badly. Secondly, his music is not heavy since the depature of titina. Low drums engulfed by high solo and singing birds.
EMO, firing kibens,JDL or Rio is not the solution,it is managing the staff he has artistically that beats him.
We all know Kibens and JDL are mediocre singers but they are not the only singers JB Mpiana has got, he's got too many good singers but the problem he has is that he's not really serious with his music career, he's so relaxed as he seems content with what he does because he definitely knows there's something wrong with his music because fans have asked him to fire those chaps several times before,at one point he even stopped a concert and left because fans asked that he fires the same so called mikuli.

As he's recruited quite a number of new musicians who have gone on tv to show their talent, let's wait and see what the next album will be like with new musicians.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on May 12, 2014, 14:54
Sly, jb is just too much a good guy that's all......that has affected his management decisions. Anyway, fingers crossed, I have a feeling through balle de match, he heard us. Secndly, I am happy chai , menthe and gino left as jb needed that.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 12, 2014, 15:14
indeed there is many bass singers in bcbg,abel,atshuda,sakoko,zulema,hugo boss of bana boma,kibens used to have that role and was doing it well but now aims to sing higher so there is something lacking but in balle de match they have corrected it

back on molesso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac82CuFbSNw here is an old example of him  including his jazz sound into bcbg's music or also when they were doing bea zodeguem live or the song somewhere on anti terro
Yes, JB can easily use those guys.

Nice Jazz tunes by Moleso there.
I lost the dvd of this show.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 12, 2014, 15:20
Sly, jb is just too much a good guy that's all......that has affected his management decisions. Anyway, fingers crossed, I have a feeling through balle de match, he heard us. Secndly, I am happy chai , menthe and gino left as jb needed that.
I think he simply doesn't understand the art of music much all he wants is good singers and it doesn't matter how he arranges the music.
Am surprised you think Erick Menthe is not good, when he was with Academia prior to joining BCBG he did very well as a solo vocalist so it brings us back to JB's skills as an arranger, he doesn't seem to know how to use the musicians he's got effectively and the hierarchy system of giving more solo vocals to old timers makes things worse.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on May 12, 2014, 16:28
What I meant was the leaving of chai, menthe, gino is at least a chance for us to see what others can offer, not that those who let are bad singers.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 12, 2014, 17:06
What I meant was the leaving of chai, menthe, gino is at least a chance for us to see what others can offer, not that those who let are bad singers.
Yes that's very true indeed. It opens up opportunities for others to shine and actually attempt to do better.
Title: Re: DOUDOU COPA OF WENGE BCBG !
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on May 13, 2014, 05:53
Exact