Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: 50 on December 18, 2013, 11:59
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZQ8DAr8FM
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Mvulusi
Please ensure that you translate the title of the news items and videos you post to English and try to make a summary of the whole story in English.
Thanx
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dont worry,i will do it today for him
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@archos said:
dont worry,i will do it today for him
Thanx archos but let me clarify by saying the titles should be translated too and just a few lines to say what the video is all about so people can understand,i think this was the complaint we had last time. It is easy to translate the French title into English,as for lingala we can all chip in and translate the stories,what is important is the titles of the threads,we must try to translate them to English by all means.
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kusangila reveals he arrived in wenge in early 1990s when alain makaba had gone back to europe,he arrived as a bassist but there was already three bassists in the group so as he is able to play rhythm aswell he took that role
for him,the real boss of wenge was alain makaba,who arranged songs,picked who will sing here and there,gave singers and instrumentists direction about how they had to perform
he was the artistic director of the group,werra financial director,jb president and masela founder of the group
-werra was against jb's project of feux de l'amour and it created tension,tension which became worse with the huge success of album
-werra was the financial director,but was not paying musicians,administrators were sharing money between themselves until one day,it was makaba who got money from the tour producer,and paid musicians well,which made werra very angry(not the fact of paying musicians,but the fact of him not receiving the money as usual)
-from the 4 administrators,werra was the one who suspended musicians whereas jn was more like a charismatic figure,a big brother(hence probably the nickname' father" masela gave him")
-one of the events which created more trouble is the fact papa wemba touched jb and said " there is only one president"
from then it worsened,and when the group wenge musica performed in abidjan,werra and jb had separate contracts,jb picked who he wanted except of course werra,and werra aswell picked his team,both made sure they did not perform together
the money makaba got from kenya caused a big war of words between werra and makaba/jb who werra openly called traitors for receiving the money instead of him anf according to him trying to convince group members to be on their side by giving them the biggest amount of money they ever had
werrason was so angry that he rushed towards jb and threatened to beat him,unless the intervention of some of their common friends something bad could have happened
one day after that incident at grand hotel,they started rehearsing at blaise bula's house with support of producer simon who quickly got them visas for europe
kusangila says he followed jb and makaba because he knew he could got to see jb and get money when he needed something whereas werra was not giving money despite his role of financial director
will complete later
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Thanx archos,once again Fr. Kusangila has told the same story he told and we know and almost all clan Wenge musicians say the same,the break up was all really about someone misusing funds and not paying staff. :lol:
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lol i imagine the almost fight scene,and imagine what they could have said and laugh like mad when thinking about it :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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@archos said:
lol i imagine the almost fight scene,and imagine what they could have said and laugh like mad when thinking about it :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
kiekiekiekie,wondering who would have won the fight. :lol:
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Was that statement of Didier Masela at RTNC before or after the fight? Who did came that day at Samba Playa? And what was the reason that Christian Mabanga & Ali Mbonda didn't stay at BCBG? So that story of Sanakara about sabotatings BGBG's rehearsel was false?
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<cite>@mvulusi96 said:</cite>
Was that statement of Didier Masela at RTNC before or after the fight? Who did came that day at Samba Playa? And what was the reason that Christian Mabanga & Ali Mbonda didn't stay at BCBG? So that story of Sanakara about sabotatings BGBG's rehearsel was false?
Sankara stories are lies as usual he exaggerates Maison Mere's first couple of concerts were a big let down as no one from wenge followed them for instances in Ghk no one was there from wenge and samba playa. reasons christian mwepu left i think he had couple disagreements with some lads from bcbg ali mbonda left as seguin was picked ahead of him notice papy mbonda was thefirst percussionist of wenge musica maison mere. Maison mere kicked off when adolphe's fan club intervened in maison mere at the time adolphe was the first president not werra until later
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guys did you hear the name kibuisa mpimpa is that how that name originated if wenge dies than the kibuisa mpimpa will happen loooooooooool
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i agree werrason is one of the greatest recruiters of not the recruiter when it comes to that bit he is very good
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Yeah that fan-club helped them a lot a the begining of Maison Mere. I foubd it strange that Sankara did chose the side of Werrason while he was a 'pure petit' of Aldophe Dominguez. Did Kusangila stay in Europe at their first tour for Nana Sukali? Because their were rumours that he felt in love with her. I never understand why he don't explain in his interviews why he left BCBG, after that Zenith-concert.
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Kusangila after titanic stayed in Europe maybe he was in love with sukali but I think he left BCBG because he didn't like it he knew jb was in full control of the band so things won't work and he mostly agreed with makaba because he never liked the way BCBG was changing with many musicians and all that
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So far Kusangila and Burkina Faso Mboka Liya stories of Wenge splitting up are the same....Werra wasnt paying them and that played a big part when the split happened they all went with JB and Makaba.
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is that the whole story of the break up? i want to hear everything lol
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Archos promised to write down the entire thing...from the begining till end!
I'd like just to know or be clarified on couple of things...Mbokaliya says that, Makaba went on TV and talked about his vision regarding the band...just to have Masela revok everybody at the 8pm news(hope someone has that video)...Patient says it all happened at their GHK meeting...Mbokaliya wasn't allowed there,at the meeting,or what?
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at the end of the day werra should have been happy of the success of his brothers album (jb) and go tour togetherr then release hi own album (kibuisa mpimpa)
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alrriight so jb and werra were like brothers ,what about makaba and wera ?
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all of them were very close,so much that even their parents became best friends because of them
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damnn they parents must have been pissed when they heard the split between them 3 lool
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anyone cann tell me what caused blaise bula to attack werra in the grand hotel concert back in 97 did them two had an argument ?
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it was part of the clearly defining the group into two teams,jb not wanting to attack werra directly let blaise do it(and alain mpela in other circumstances)
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who else had conflict against each other in the band ? we know jb and werra did of course lol