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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on February 11, 2014, 22:11

Title: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: mvulusi96 on February 11, 2014, 22:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raje0cW8a4w
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: archos on February 12, 2014, 09:58
kusangila makes a looooot of valid points,makaba knew how the get the best out of all of them,and even i remember in pentagone sessions in belgium werra and tata were often pissed because he made them re start their parts countless times until he estimated it was good enough,he is also the one who  took jb to another level,the true jb mpiana voice is what he used in the beginning of zadio whereas in all his wenge musica career he was using those debaba or wemba type of voice
and he is also right about the formateur thing,but he better be careful, he might get slaughtered for criticizing the guy who calls himself formateur
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on February 12, 2014, 11:13
Yes,he's totally right and I like the way he's emphasized his point on the ''formateur'' issue, he's almnost pissed off and alsmost saying who is Werra to train someone, he just ends it by asking the chap conducting the interview if Werra trained Kapaya. ;D
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: Franco Pepe Kalle on February 12, 2014, 20:46
I think there is a strategy to come and give their counts of the day of Wenge Musica and leading up to break up. I know a interview ago, Patient also gave some reasons why JB Mpiana was not at the Ivory Coast show in 1997. He implied the reason was the rift between JB Mpiana and Werrason.
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on February 13, 2014, 05:06
Now sly that is kusangila who did the master of ceremony for jb to come on stage at 1999 zennith.  We had a friendly argument over this years ago.
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on February 13, 2014, 12:50
Now sly that is kusangila who did the master of ceremony for jb to come on stage at 1999 zennith.  We had a friendly argument over this years ago.
Will have a look at the show again.
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: Nyumu Wa Mukiti on February 13, 2014, 17:59
Now sly that is kusangila who did the master of ceremony for jb to come on stage at 1999 zennith.  We had a friendly argument over this years ago.
Will have a look at the show again.

Please watch again carefully. It was Kusangila.
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: archos on February 13, 2014, 18:06
i was at the concert,i confirm it was kusangila
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on February 14, 2014, 09:46
Yeah,i have just seen the video again, it was indeed Kusangila.
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: pierrefelix123 on June 06, 2014, 11:28
soo jb mpiana had autority on all of them except werra didier and makaba
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on June 06, 2014, 11:41
soo jb mpiana had autority on all of them except werra didier and makaba
Based on an interview I read about 10 years ago on digitalcongo, Wenge Musica had 3 main leaders ie JB, Makaba and Werrason. JB and Makaba were the signatories of the band, these two signed contracts etc with JB being the overall but with not much authority over others as they sort of made collective decisions as leader whilst Makaba was also the Artistic Director.  Werrason was Financial Director and Chief operating Officer who was also responsible for recruitment and organisation. The founding father Didier Masela was more like a non Executive Chairman with no direct responsibilities.
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: pierrefelix123 on June 06, 2014, 11:58
okkk and the album feux de l'amour was the reason why the band split into two ? and what was werra and jb makaba relation like ?
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on June 06, 2014, 12:09
okkk and the album feux de l'amour was the reason why the band split into two ? and what was werra and jb makaba relation like ?
Feux de l'amour was the final straw due to already strained relationships amongst the leaders mainly due to egos,jealousy and also lack of funds as Werrason is alleged to have been misappropriating funds and failing to pay staff hence the reason why almost the entire band went with JB Mpiana who through his connections and success from that album was helping out staff with allowances from his own resources.
The relationship between Werra and the others went sour otherwise JB and Makaba and others were all getting along well, JB and Makaba's relationship only turned sour when they were now as Wenge BCBG with JB Mpiana and founder and supreme leader that's why Makaba simply left followed by Blaise Bula who as we heard was not happy because of lack of support from JB and colleagues when he was unwell, he felt isolated so JB remained with his band as solo leader.
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: archos on June 06, 2014, 12:10
okkk and the album feux de l'amour was the reason why the band split into two ? and what was werra and jb makaba relation like ?

hi brother,if you want i will be doing  soon a topic on the steps to wenge split from when it started to that day of december 97 when it was over
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: pierrefelix123 on June 06, 2014, 12:32
last question is what was werra makaba and jb relation between them 3 like where they like brothers ? ???
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: archos on June 06, 2014, 12:35
yes they were like brothers,their parents even became very close friends because of them
when their three dads died each other took it like it were their own one
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: BG-ground on June 07, 2014, 21:03
Please Archo, do it
From interview I watched here and there(Mpela,Aimelia,Kusangila,Mabanga, Mbokalia,only Fiston Zamwangana doesn't get into it) They all recognize the main Role of Makaba (the real Formateur),Jb Mpiana was an easy guy to live with..in Kusangila and Mbokalia interview they mention how Makaba paid them in Kenya(the amount paid differs in both interview)and Mbokalia to sarcastically(I hope) to say Werra became sic when he heard of that and that's why he didn't participate in a concert(Makaba took his dept.in hostage)...About Blaise leaving Wenge BCBG,it came from a conflict between him and Ficare Mwamba(According to Aimelia).Jb Mpiana was away in Europe with Makaba, Blaise was left in charge. During their argument,Blaise supposly hit Ficarre with a bottle and injured his arm.Mpiana was informed and they suspended him...till today,lol
Throughout Zenith preparation in Kinshasa JB ignored him and never overturned the Suspension
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: pierrefelix123 on June 08, 2014, 07:59
is there any reasons why alain mpela left wenge bcbg
Title: Re: Patient Kusangila l'ex de Wenge Musica ignore le leadership de jb mpiana et werr
Post by: pierrefelix537 on June 16, 2014, 14:24
how did all the wenge clan met and what was the dislocation about did jb and werra had a proper fight or ?