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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on March 31, 2014, 12:22
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la colère de wérra sur férré continue épisode 7 : un soliste devant le bureau de maison mère
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épisode 8 : brandon avatar recalé par férré gola alobi yé moko << ba musicien ya wérra ako sala na bango nini ? azo mona mutu yako zua kuna té apart yé moko wérra >>
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lol ferre is courageous hahahahahaha
hopefully they will calm down before something bad happens
for those who do not understand lingala and french a soloist of ferre is close to joining maison mere, and ferre rejected brandon avatar and said he does not see who he could recruit from maison mere apart from werra himself
i am certain there is a spiritual war behind this
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lol ferre is courageous hahahahahaha
hopefully they will calm down before something bad happens
for those who do not understand lingala and french a soloist of ferre is close to joining maison mere, and ferre rejected brandon avatar and said he does not see who he could recruit from maison mere apart from werra himself
i am certain there is a spiritual war behind this
Yeah,am following the comments on ndombholino's page,guerre abandi!!!
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lol that comment of hervé makes me laugh so much, he is really courageous lol
i am sure in "their world" its either werra not accepting ferré becoming bigger, or ferré who is challenging werra to prove him their are on more or less similar level
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Kiekiekeiekeiekeiekie Ferre is joking.
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lol that comment of hervé makes me laugh so much, he is really courageous lol
i am sure in "their world" its either werra not accepting ferré becoming bigger, or ferré who is challenging werra to prove him their are on more or less similar level
lol....Ferre has nothing more to prove to werra as he's bigger than werra, thats why maison mere is trying hard to demoralise ferre but ferre does not care...likoloooooooo<< ba musicien ya wérra ako sala na bango nini ? azo mona mutu yako zua kuna té apart yé moko wérra >>
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If Werra is intelligent enough then he should really be hurt by these remarks by Ferre,very big insult !!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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la colère de wérra sur férré continue épisode 7 : un soliste devant le bureau de maison mère
i will be soo happy if its Charly Solo ;D...please i hope its true
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la colère de wérra sur férré continue épisode 7 : un soliste devant le bureau de maison mère
i will be soo happy if its Charly Solo ;D...please i hope its true
Yeah, it would be a major blow if it's Hadji who goes.
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Why would Ferre reject Brandon Avatar it's not like his atalaku team is good.
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"ba musicien ya wérra ako sala na bango nini ? azo mona mutu yako zua kuna té apart yé moko wérra"
Does Ya Gola know that Matadien came from La Zamba? :D :D
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i still can"t get over ferre's sentence,damnnnnnn ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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i still can"t get over ferre's sentence,damnnnnnn ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hahaha eza mawa muana azo beta papa ;D ;D ;D
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Ferre has everything Werra has which is popularity, good songs and a very solid group and he also played at Zenith, the only thing missing is a group album.
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Ferre has everything Werra has which is popularity, good songs and a very solid group and he also played at Zenith, the only thing missing is a group album.
but Werra doesn't have everything Ferre has....good voice, good songs and solid group...."ba musicien ya wérra ako sala na bango nini ? azo mona mutu yako zua kuna té apart yé moko wérra"...lol
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Kiekiekiekie,am still laughing too,Ferre has hit Werra below the belt!! ;D ;D
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facebook comments "Ahhhhhh ata werra soki aye ferré ako zua ye te po aza foux chanteur kiekiekiekie".... ;D
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"ba musicien ya wérra ako sala na bango nini ? azo mona mutu yako zua kuna té apart yé moko wérra"
translate for us lingala challenged.
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"ba musicien ya wérra ako sala na bango nini ? azo mona mutu yako zua kuna té apart yé moko wérra"
translate for us lingala challenged.
ferre said he does not see who he can steal among maison mere musicians except werra himself
ahhh this is the punchline of the year,i doubt somebody will do better
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You know what ferre has along way to catch up with werrason believe me long way
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You know what ferre has along way to catch up with werrason believe me long way
In what?
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"ba musicien ya wérra ako sala na bango nini ? azo mona mutu yako zua kuna té apart yé moko wérra"
translate for us lingala challenged.
ferre said he does not see who he can steal among maison mere musicians except werra himself
ahhh this is the punchline of the year,i doubt somebody will do better
now am laughing maximum disrespect..
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You know what ferre has along way to catch up with werrason believe me long way
You are correct!! I wonder why all this fighting. Ferre gola can sing but artistically, he is not a complete musician who can give you a diverse menu to sample from. Werra has done that already.
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in manzaka mankoy the second maison mere tv show,one of the ew ferre female dancers just said she was in primary school when with ferre now she at university
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in manzaka mankoy the second maison mere tv show,one of the ew ferre female dancers just said she was in primary school when with ferre now she at university
Hahaha let the war begin toza na Jesus!!!!
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Even though it's old they still hit at Werra hard @6:00 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DHISLphxR0
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I have heard it all. Nakanisi Ferre aza na liboma. Kopesa Werra mosala? Moyen te. Personally I believe it was wrong for Werra to poach Ferre's musicians. There is talent all over for him to sample but again this is show business.
Anyway, they should both release their respective albums and we fans give our opinion(s) instead of unnecessary polemique. Ndule na bango ekokanga masolo.
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Frankly writting, I know only one hit from Ferre which made him famous in music world, and that is nothing other than Vita Imana and Vita Iman Remix, and you know where that hit was prepared. If you had asked me which brand of music prescribes him, honestly, you will get more questions than answers. Is he classical like JB? Rhumba King like Madilu (R.I.P)?, Inventor of new melodies, new dancing styles, high flying sebene, atalaku like Werrason? Nope! What has he achieved so far is it comparable since the era of Kaskin, Mulolo, Kalay Boeing, Surprise Kapangala, Kama, Rapid Force Intervention, Solela bien, Kibuisa Mpipa, Le qeulea quelea, Tindika Loketo, Sous a Soul, Malewa of Le Roy De La Forret? Nope! He is a good singer but there is something wrong on establishment of true identity, branding and repositioning in the music market. Werrason might be recruiting every day but he knows what he wants from recruitees, it is the different story with this chap, he has been trying every thing with no promising results, creating and disolving companies etc etc
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I personally love Ferre and everyone who sings a bit like him. He arguably has the best voice in Congo amongst the known artists. He is bringing up a good crop of musicians. I wouldn't say he will never be like JB, Werra or Koffi coz he has all the potential to surpass them but whether we hate Werra or not, whether we hate his poaching the truth is that Werra, JB, Koffi, Wemba are not in the same class as Ferre. He could reach their level and probably surpass them but he is just not there yet. He can compete with the likes of Kabose, Lacoste, Fally etc but not yet in the other band. look at Koyimbiko, malewa, muselu, mpunda and all the trademark dances by Werra and JB. Look at generiques like intervention rapid, solola bien, operation dragon, kibuisa mpimpa, tindika lokito, Le qeulea quelea, alerte general, Sous a Sou, malewa....... Songs like Kalay Boeing, Surprise Kapangala, coco madimba, koffi ayina, Augustine, the whole Kibuisa album, wabelo, likambo......... The great concerts at zenith, bercy and other venues.
Everything aside coz arguments of who has better hits boarder on tastes. Do I hate what is happening. I would say the movements between the bands have no effect on any of the two bands. Ferre cant crumble even if Werra gets all musicians and Werra can get musicians when he wants to and keeps going regardless of who leaves his band. Werra likes aggressive musicians and if you prove to him then you definitely walk into first line up and get songs regardless of how long you have been with the band. He then creates so much hype around you and always presents something new to the fans unlike seeing the same old faces with so much predictability. He markets you and also benefits in the process. So for aggressive musicians they move into fist line up and get more exposure. So much as he porches musicians they also know that if they are aggressive, they stand a better chance of being given songs and being marketed under Werra as he doesn't get the limelight alone like Ferre and Fally. If Heritier was in any other band even BCBG I don't think he would be known like he is now. Fabregas only spent a few years under Werra and caught the limelight he wanted. Brigade was nothing after leaving Koffi and if he had gone solo then he probably would have been a big flop but just check the attention he gets now. Cafe Roum, Merlin Bouton are arguably the best two singers in WMM but they are not aggressive enough. They need to work on their dancing skills get to travel with Werra on all trips and get to sing pats where other musicians are missing and get to impress and get more songs and limelight. That's what Arnake, Deplik and Fabregas did.
Is Werra a bad Musician ...NO....Is he a good musician...YES. Is he a good singer.....NO. What do we want a singer or a musician....Its up to you. Can a bad singer produce very nice music and best albums....YES......Does a good singer always produce good music....NO.
If I like Ferre, do I have to hate Werra just coz he is getting musicians who have the right to chose association and probably have better reasons for doing so...NO. Does Ferre see Werra as demon for poaching his musicians...NO coz he should see that demon in himself first for ditching Werra for Koffi. Should he curse his musicians for doing that...No coz he did it himself and benefited from it. Who is bothered most by what is happening....FANS and not Werra or Ferre. Do musicians like creating polemique with Werra coz he is the only selfish musician with a bad heart.....NO...Why.......its more profitable to create polemique with Werra coz Sankara will respond and the continuous exchange of insults will put you in the limelight and make people expectant of your music. Is it profitable to do polemique with JB....NO....Why...The guy will keep quite and you will end up making a fool of yourself. Is polemique good for Werra...YES... the band, majority of the fans were brought up from that background during polemique with JB so it gives Werra and his musicians to work hard and try to beat the small rivals. It also keeps people expectant and wanting to watch and see what. Most of the offsprings of Werra are so much into polemique than any other band...Bill vs Brigade.....Ferre vs Lacoste.....Ferre vs Fally.....Ferre vs Werra....Bill vs Celeo......Herritier vs Capuccino.....Herritier vs Brigade.....!!!! Do you think they don't see it beneficial? NO!!! Such things are rare in other bands...GINO is trying it but to no avail.
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The war between Werra and Ferre is liken to that of Daud and Goliath, Ferre being Daud and Werra being Goliath, by comparing them to these two famous characters of the bible does not signify that Ferre will beat Werra, I just want to point out the strength of each of them, it is without doubt that Werra is one of a complete musicians Congo has produced, despite his few shortfalls like his singing (Though I like his voice a lot, and I believe its so unique and difficulty to imitate) Werra is head and shoulder above Ferre. Without Werra, Ferre would not have become the musician he is, he was nobody in Wenge Musica BCBG, but Werra saw a potential in him and elevated him in Maison Merre, there are countless of Musicians in Congo with a voice as good as Ferre, one of them being Manda Chant by they are struggling in oblivion. The only advice I could give Werra is that, Ferre is not his size, if he persist on fighting him, Ferre will reduce him down to his level and beat him with experience. Werra should concentrate on composing the good music we have been missing of late.
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Your right Nkosi I think that Cafe Roum and Merlin Bouton would be in the first team if they were better dancers. And yes it's better to start polemic with Werra and not JB because Werra and co respond but JB dosen't.
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You have said all. Great kudos for your educative and ever lucrative piece of analysis enshrined with indepth and broadth facts and sound trails.
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This is what I'm saying ferre is an excellent vocalist champions league leave but he has not reached werra's level not enough an inch but his got time on his side to do so. It will work when he finally produces a well arranged album until then I don't ferre has done anything significant couple good songs on sens interdit. qui est derreire toi and boite noire has been let downs big let down but let see what he'll do in the future
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;D ;D ;D It's the truth Ferre in the 90's ;D ;D Ngungi moko boye ya mwindu but he has to pay respect to Werra, if you look at Ferre when he was in Wenge musica original or early days of maison mere you'd feel sorry for him dearly but Werra lifted him up to what he is now but that doesn't mean werra should mistreat for being ill mouthed in stade martyrs remarks I think Werra hasn't got over it but he should
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Guys, do not lie to yourselves, the world is changing. Ferre has the right to boast and say he's above Werra, are you forgetting that even Fally Ipupa has now surpassed all of them, the success of Fally and Ferre is there to see, without much rivalry and multiple international performances, Ferre and Fally have made it big especially Fally who is now much more wealthy than the likes of Werra,JB and the rest so Ferre is equally there rubbing shoulders with the likes of JB and Ferre. It's not a joke for a young man below 40 to have a band comprising of more than 40 staff so maximum respect to Ferre and Fally most especially.
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Absolutely SLY respect to them commercially but when I'm talking impact like big impact look in 2001 when maison mere came back from europe tour and recording of kibuisa ba impact wana de fois tse!!! ndjili mombimba e kweya na airport ti na grand hotel. Artistically speaking they have not been successful to that level ba nzembo na bango esali anthologique tse mais heures eza ko aider bango fort. They've got time in their side to make this artistic impact which i believe they can submit if change there style, they'll be the next dominant leaders in next 7/10 years time but I worry for them because i'm not sure whether will be releasing albums of that calibre kibuisa, TH, A La Queue Leu Leu and others ba faire wana eza haut haut haut niveau they need time to complete big time BIG Time do you see what I mean.
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You're right, they are not being innovative that's why they are not having that impact, they are doing the same stuff that the major artists are doing except for Fally who is trying to venture more into other styles for instance his flirtations with R&B an his collaborations with other African stars so commercially he's gone international to a level where only Koffi has been but Ferre too is enjoying some success, he does too many rhumba songs but still manages to leave fans with mouths wide open whenever he drops an album, it's his greatness as a fine singer that has contributed otherwise he's not doing anything spectacular like the Werra's and JB's used to do back in the days when competition was really stiff, those days rival camps released music in response and to silence the rival camps not anymore.