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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Tunutu on May 20, 2014, 12:10
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQLPL0vnht4
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This was before Feux D' amour, why didn't he participate?
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Album was fully recorded in europe and he was left behind during that tour
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Album was fully recorded in europe and he was left behind during that tour
Was he recruited as an animator? Where was Caludgi at this time?
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Album was fully recorded in europe and he was left behind during that tour
Was he recruited as an animator? Where was Caludgi at this time?
he was recruited as a singer but used as plan B for atalaku role because werra had suspended tutu caludjif for saying mocking comments on his wife
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Album was fully recorded in europe and he was left behind during that tour
Was he recruited as an animator? Where was Caludgi at this time?
he was recruited as a singer but used as plan B for atalaku role because werra had suspended tutu caludjif for saying mocking comments on his wife
HAHAHAHAAAAA
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So Werra had the power to hire and fire, what was the role of JB as a band president.
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So Werra had the power to hire and fire, what was the role of JB as a band president.
both had that power but werra was using it more whereas jb was more of a authority for the group members-all of them including werra nicknamed him "father" for his sense of authority and togetherness),and jb was signing contracts along with werra and sometimes makaba
also jb was pivotal in bringing many sponsors for the group
apart from that,this may make you laugh but jb(along with his "twin" werra) was in charge of the dirty secrets of the group
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Jb is the president and father of Wenge Musica and after the split Ferre along with Vieux Menopause, Didier Masela and Vieux Adolphe Tata Dominguez created Wenge Musica Maison Mere.
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Finally we can see him doing animation for the album he contributed on as an ataluku! He did very well no wonder he had that power on animation on his first solo album when he surprised us with his falsetto voice on animation. This guy can really change voices, excellent stuff!
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Jb is the president and father of Wenge Musica and after the split Ferre along with Vieux Menopause, Didier Masela and Vieux Adolphe Tata Dominguez created Wenge Musica Maison Mere.
Jdog tika polemic pardon
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Jb is the president and father of Wenge Musica and after the split Ferre along with Vieux Menopause, Didier Masela and Vieux Adolphe Tata Dominguez created Wenge Musica Maison Mere.
Jdog tika polemic pardon
Wapi polemique?? Eza polemique te eza ba variete.
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Jb is the president and father of Wenge Musica and after the split Ferre along with Vieux Menopause, Didier Masela and Vieux Adolphe Tata Dominguez created Wenge Musica Maison Mere.
Jdog tika polemic pardon
Wapi polemique?? Eza polemique te eza ba variete.
Non Ferre jamais asala maison mere jamais, asalaki simple musicans lokola ba bill, celeo, jdt na ba flamme, soki asalaka fondateur me asala ba recruitment mes asala rien, musala na ye ezalaki koyemba nako bina oyo ezala asala ti lelo BRAVO!!!, par apres tangu christian mwepu a quitter ferre aswi responabilite ya orchestre na sens du chef d'orchestre dans l'annee 1999 il faut etre sincere, ferre jamais recrute quelqu'un ou est venu avec une creation pour maison mere pure et simple, soki azalaki eleko pendant (1997/98) yebisa nga mais nga nayebi a creer maison mere tse ou bien ko participer na recuretement merci mon ferre
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Newside, Ferre asali Maison Mere ye moko te na lobi ye Ferre na Vieux Adolphe Dominguez na Didier Masela na tata wana mikolo oyo a lingi ko mela ba sifflet na ko sokola na mayi ya kamba. Na temps azalaki na Maison Mere azo yemba ba paroles nionso plus encore que vieux Jaloux. Ko benga yo leader efo o yeba musala na yo, ko yebisa nga te Werra ayebi ko yemba, ko beta guitar. Je reconnais Werra est un bon danseur. Mais na album nionso ya ye na ya Maison Mere azo tikala ba chanteur na ye ba yemba, ako yemba ba vocale ya mukie na ba deux chanson apres wana atiki na ye. Est que wana leader epayi ya yo ?? Pour ye a mata efo ba musiciens na ye ba sala musala ya bien. Wana eza leader te eza kk collegue. Pona nini Ferre asali ba recruitment?? Asali ba recruitment parce que eza orchestre na ye, alingi groupe na ye eza toujours charge avec talent. Oyebi apres Wenge 4x4 Werra alingi a tika musique ?? Ayebi bien soki ba vrai musiciens baza te ako sala musique ye bien bien te.
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Newside, Ferre asali Maison Mere ye moko te na lobi ye Ferre na Vieux Adolphe Dominguez na Didier Masela na tata wana mikolo oyo a lingi ko mela ba sifflet na ko sokola na mayi ya kamba. Na temps azalaki na Maison Mere azo yemba ba paroles nionso plus encore que vieux Jaloux. Ko benga yo leader efo o yeba musala na yo, ko yebisa nga te Werra ayebi ko yemba, ko beta guitar. Je reconnais Werra est un bon danseur. Mais na album nionso ya ye na ya Maison Mere azo tikala ba chanteur na ye ba yemba, ako yemba ba vocale ya mukie na ba deux chanson apres wana atiki na ye. Est que wana leader epayi ya yo ?? Pour ye a mata efo ba musiciens na ye ba sala musala ya bien. Wana eza leader te eza kk collegue. Pona nini Ferre asali ba recruitment?? Asali ba recruitment parce que eza orchestre na ye, alingi groupe na ye eza toujours charge avec talent. Oyebi apres Wenge 4x4 Werra alingi a tika musique ?? Ayebi bien soki ba vrai musiciens baza te ako sala musique ye bien bien te.
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shamala its nothing special,what is said has been repeated a lot
its that werra needs good singers around him and himself rarely sings but ferre can do a concert on his own as a singer
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shamala its nothing special,what is said has been repeated a lot
its that werra needs good singers around him and himself rarely sings but ferre can do a concert on his own as a singer
ok
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Shamala, I said that Ferre,Adolphe Dominguez, Didier Masela and Werra are the ones who co-founded Wenge Musica Maison Mere. I also said that when Ferre was in Maison Mere he sang more then Werra.I said that Werra was not a leader back in those days because he didn't sing a lot or did he play the guitar so how can he be a real musician or leader. I said that even though Werra is a good dancer he still can't hold a band by himself. And in albums he will sing like two short vocals in some songs and the rest he gives to his musicians even in the solo albums. So how is that a leader to someone?? I also said that if Werra wants to be on top he has to have his musicians do all the work for it to be something good. I said that Ferre did recruitment in Maison Mere because that was his band and he wanted his band to always be on top and full with talent. I concluded with saying that after Wenge 4x4 split he wanted to quit music because Werra himself knows that if he has no one with him or if he's not in a group then he will not make good music.
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shamala its nothing special,what is said has been repeated a lot
its that werra needs good singers around him and himself rarely sings but ferre can do a concert on his own as a singer
It's repeated a lot because it's the truth and nothing but the truth.
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Shamala, I said that Ferre,Adolphe Dominguez, Didier Masela and Werra are the ones who co-founded Wenge Musica Maison Mere. I also said that when Ferre was in Maison Mere he sang more then Werra.I said that Werra was not a leader back in those days because he didn't sing a lot or did he play the guitar so how can he be a real musician or leader. I said that even though Werra is a good dancer he still can't hold a band by himself. And in albums he will sing like two short vocals in some songs and the rest he gives to his musicians even in the solo albums. So how is that a leader to someone?? I also said that if Werra wants to be on top he has to have his musicians do all the work for it to be something good. I said that Ferre did recruitment in Maison Mere because that was his band and he wanted his band to always be on top and full with talent. I concluded with saying that after Wenge 4x4 split he wanted to quit music because Werra himself knows that if he has no one with him or if he's not in a group then he will not make good music.
thanx
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Shamala, I said that Ferre,Adolphe Dominguez, Didier Masela and Werra are the ones who co-founded Wenge Musica Maison Mere. I also said that when Ferre was in Maison Mere he sang more then Werra.I said that Werra was not a leader back in those days because he didn't sing a lot or did he play the guitar so how can he be a real musician or leader. I said that even though Werra is a good dancer he still can't hold a band by himself. And in albums he will sing like two short vocals in some songs and the rest he gives to his musicians even in the solo albums. So how is that a leader to someone?? I also said that if Werra wants to be on top he has to have his musicians do all the work for it to be something good. I said that Ferre did recruitment in Maison Mere because that was his band and he wanted his band to always be on top and full with talent. I concluded with saying that after Wenge 4x4 split he wanted to quit music because Werra himself knows that if he has no one with him or if he's not in a group then he will not make good music.
Jdog you are correct with werrason not doing a lot I agree with you but please stop with the favouritism ferre didn't co-found Wenge Musica Maison Mere it was 3 people (Werra, Adolphe and Didier Masela) hence why Ferre was not in the front cover of intervation rapide or neither was he given a song yes ferre later on became more influential and responsible for many things Maison Mere but in the beginning he didn't co-found anything he was a simple member of the group until 1999/2000 where as chef d'orchestre
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Jdog, your bitterness towards Werra will give you blood pressure, you claim that Werra cannot sing, One of the songs which catapulted Maison Merre to fame was Chantal Switzerland go and listen to that song and hear for yourself who sings the biggest part, you can also listen to Kibuisa mpipa, a song would hit even without Ferres voice, Ferre should be thankful to Werra because without him he would not have been the musician he is.
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Newside and Jdog, here is another twist to continue the argument, Wenge Musica Maison Mere was formed by Adolphe Dominguez, Werrason, Ferre, Ali Mbonda, Christian Mabanga and they took with them Japonais Maladi.
Wenge Musica Maison Mere had 3 leaders namely Adolphe, Werra and Didier Masela. Later, Werrason fell out with 2 of his co-leaders Adolphe and Masela Who both left and formed their own bands Wenge Tonya Tonya and Wenge Musica respectively and that's how Werrason became a solo artist and his band was now called Wenge Maison Mere and Ferre Gola was his number 2.
On the other side, JB Mpiana who had left Wenge Musica BCBG 4x4 earlier with all financial support needed and almost the entire band and instrument formed his own group and named it Wenge BCBG and it has remained as Wenge BCBG even after the departure of some of the co-founders. Kiekiekiekie
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SLY i don't understand how your throwing up names please let's be exact (By the way I'm not arguing trust trying to prove why I'm right :)) Firstly Ferre Gola went to BCBG first, Christian Mwepu went to BCBG first, Ali Mbonda went to BCBG first and Japonais Maladi was in Paris he also had a short time with Wenge BCBG. Who was left alone Werra, Adolphe and Didier Masela these are the three who really created Wenge Musica Maison Mere with little intervention of Christian Mwepu. Now answer my question how on earth did young boy ferre 20/21 at the time co-founded Wenge Musica Maison Mere when he lacked experience, seriously this guy blossomed in Maison Mere and was excellent but he was not part of the foundation (creation-wise) he was a simple singer as jdt, ndombe, celeo and the rest.
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Jdog, your bitterness towards Werra will give you blood pressure, you claim that Werra cannot sing, One of the songs which catapulted Maison Merre to fame was Chantal Switzerland go and listen to that song and hear for yourself who sings the biggest part, you can also listen to Kibuisa mpipa, a song would hit even without Ferres voice, Ferre should be thankful to Werra because without him he would not have been the musician he is.
I don't have no bitteness towards Werra, and the only reason Chantal Switzerland is because of Ferre's, Adjani,Didier Lacoste and Jdt,Baby Ndombe Serge Mabiala's vocals on the song... Werra needs other people for him to make good music because he is a faux chanteur.
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Yet again another thread sidelined by pointless WMM arguments...
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SLY i don't understand how your throwing up names please let's be exact (By the way I'm not arguing trust trying to prove why I'm right :)) Firstly Ferre Gola went to BCBG first, Christian Mwepu went to BCBG first, Ali Mbonda went to BCBG first and Japonais Maladi was in Paris he also had a short time with Wenge BCBG. Who was left alone Werra, Adolphe and Didier Masela these are the three who really created Wenge Musica Maison Mere with little intervention of Christian Mwepu. Now answer my question how on earth did young boy ferre 20/21 at the time co-founded Wenge Musica Maison Mere when he lacked experience, seriously this guy blossomed in Maison Mere and was excellent but he was not part of the foundation (creation-wise) he was a simple singer as jdt, ndombe, celeo and the rest.
Hahaha,you're totally right Newside, I just wanted to throw in another theory that others believe, there are many theories. ;D ;D
Indeed Wenge Musica Maison Mere was formed by Didier Masela,Werra and Adolphe however it must be noted that the three had literally nothing when JB went so they didn't create Maison Mere straight away, it took time so in between the time of the separation and creation of Maison Mere, people like Ferre,Ali Mbonda and others were knocking at BCBG's door. Ferre was rejected at BCBG and that's when he went to Werra who by then was now forming Maison Mere with Adolphe and Masela and they made Ferre almost like their JB Mpiana as he Ferre took all old vocals of JB and became their main singer so we cannot rule out the fact that Ferre helped Maison Mere be where it is today,if only Maison Mere fans can accept that but yes, Ferre was not a co-leader, he only became number 2 after Werrason now created Wenge Maison Mere, that is after the departure of Masela and Adolphe.
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I totally agree Ferre fought for maison mere to be were it is today!!!
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We are tired of crappy and silly comments about Le Roi De La Forret Le Phenomena Igwee, Werrason , WMM and their fans alone, please leave them alone, it not necessary for all of us to share the same menu and taste, if you think yours is the best, it is up to your taste buds and your big mouth. Records speak volume as well as tremendous track record in the business. When did little " Shwetani" left WMMM and where is today? is it flat dead like other groups?
Many good musicians worked and left their signature at WMMM and they went to commence their career the likes of Didier Masela, Adolph Dominguez, JDT, Bill Clinton, Baby Ndombwe, Celeo, Kapaya, Aimelia Lyase, Kabose, Lacoste, Kusangila, the recent ones the likes of Brigade Sabbatini, Fabrigas, but no none of them are so sarcastically like the Shetwan's followers why? We have the saying in our home that the stones are always thrown to the tree with nice and glittering fruits, otherwise shut up your big mouths and shows respect to some one who has sacrificed a lot and nurtured many talents Congolese musicians to what they are today.
Some one who is even recognized by the UN for his noble works and protection of marginalized street kids in Congo, Some one who has continued to make Congo and Africans so famous in African Pop Culture in World Circles, have you ever seen the tape of Obama and other respectable dignitaries dancing to the tune of Werra's tune? Just Google and you will be bamboozled with your hatred heart.
Some one who has been relieving us with world stress for more than two decades with miracle music, innovative danceable sebene, atalaku and dancing styles. Please, if your suitable and delicious food is some one who talk and talk from commencement of the music to end, we have nothing to abuse your egocentric flavors, it is what you like, PLEASE US ALONE!
Back to the topic, was this piece of posted work recorded in Tanzania? I can see the script TZ. But I appreciate to some extent Werrason voicehas been waning compared to those days, it might be due to providing more time on business and administration issues, some times it may be difficult to keep the same pitch of sound for more than two decades, unless you are following strict diet plan for keeping your voice intact. But, it is not correct that he is a bad singer no! no! no! Further, also we can not say he is the excellent singer, no! no!
But is the best commander, best CEO, best General, who can make and combine resources to perform at best, he can make the brigades to wage the smartest battles and win at ease.
He can rise from ashes and make very gigantic fortress, he has done this several times with WMMM.
I can see now days his voice is coming back to as used to be in those old glory days, we are happily waiting for our usual delicious bread!
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Sadiki Tiger, you cannot manage to shut people up on forums, people will always talk and no matter how long your article is people will say what they want, just read and laugh and join in the fun. ;D ;D
Werra can be ambassador of peace, human rights, children or whatever he is but the fact still remains those are just titles, we know he remains a shegue who doesn't love peace and thrives on rivalry, this is the same Werra who never gets along with any of his former musicians despite some of them praising him.
The Shetani you're referring to, Ferre is the most successful artist to ever come from Wenge Maison Mere, you've listed the number of musicians who have left Werrason but you forgot that all of them are literally in oblivion that's why you only hear about Shetani, Shetani is the real deal my friend ! Until Werra and his shegue fans learn to show respect to former Wenge Maison Mere musicians, we the fans of those musicians will continue to refer to Werra as a fake singer who relies on young musicians that's why he's so bitter when they leave him to start their own careers!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Sly, is Werra the only Musician in Congo entitled to use young singers, you sound as if the young singers are the one who made Werra great, if Werra who you regard as an average musician can be catapulted to Stardom by young singers why not JB, Blaise Bula, Makaba and a countless struggling musicians in Congo?
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Sly, is Werra the only Musician in Congo entitled to use young singers, you sound as if the young singers are the one who made Werra great, if Werra who you regard as an average musician can be catapulted to Stardom by young singers why not JB, Blaise Bula, Makaba and a countless struggling musicians in Congo?
The difference between the other musicians and Werrason is that though they also have young musicians accompanying them,they(JB,KOFFI,Wemba ) etc can actually perform alone on stage and they've never relied on their staff to impress. Werrason is simply a good entertainer but not a good singer who can wow the crowds it's not a secret.
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Sly, is Werra the only Musician in Congo entitled to use young singers, you sound as if the young singers are the one who made Werra great, if Werra who you regard as an average musician can be catapulted to Stardom by young singers why not JB, Blaise Bula, Makaba and a countless struggling musicians in Congo?
The difference between the other musicians and Werrason is that though they also have young musicians accompanying them,they(JB,KOFFI,Wemba ) etc can actually perform alone on stage and they've never relied on their staff to impress. Werrason is simply a good entertainer but not a good singer who can wow the crowds it's not a secret.
Adolph Dominguez was a founding member of Maison Mere, and he has been struggling since he went Solo, why isn't he copying the strategy of Utilizing youth if it is the reason behind the success of Werrason?
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Yes, Mr. Tunutu you are absolutely right I could not disagree any more with your comment.
That is the very valid observation is he the only musician in Congo who have the legitimate license to use young musicians? Are other musicians not allowed to use the youngsters? Why they are rising to stardom when they play in WMMM? and vanish into oblivion when they quit WMMM?
And why till to date WMMM is still in the fore front and is battling with the fifth generation of Congolese musicians? Why?
You may hate someone for what he is , but you need to acknowledge the best products or outputs come out of him.
You cannot tell some one is the best footballer cause is putting Nike Football Shoes and others are putting nameless football shoes. Instruments, studio and others are there to help us to shape our music, life , business etc.
But we need to cherish the ideas, the innovation that is what is making us happy whether one is average singer or extra ordinary choir singer. At least in Africa we are still nursing the craft works from people who have used their natural brains, in Europe music is simulated in computer programs, instruments and even vocals may be direct made from recording studio. People may fill the concerts hall just for listening and dancing to play backs.
Sometimes life experience may be cruel, but if you are smart you may reap out of cruelty, you may remember Werrason and WMMM commenced from ground zero with nothing at their base after the greatest separation, but they reaped from what you refers as Polemic, it is the greatest asset for him and his group to propel, but it does not mean he hates his former mates.
Yes, I may not stop what to write and what to think what they think it is right, however, sometimes it turn so nasty someone is repeatedly commenting on the same thing on topics which do no relate with his awfully utterances.
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Adolph Dominguez was a founding member of Maison Mere, and he has been struggling since he went Solo, why isn't he copying the strategy of Utilizing youth if it is the reason behind the success of Werrason?
Most of these musicians have other things to do and music is secondary but if you said he's struggling it's because desperate bastards like Werrason keep stealing his musicians yet they are meant to be family. If you know Wenge Maison Mere well then don't even ask me which musicians Adolphe has lost over the years,one was stolen recently and he's singing Ferre's vocals at Maison Mere.
If you think Adolphe isn't good at his job then listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAoG7_PpA_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F85VjMTJpdc
I bet you recognise this guy Adolphe introduced last year,watch from Min 20.30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYKWdCoNmWM
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Bastards? Is he putting gun on their heads to sign for WMMM?
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Bastards? Is he putting gun on their heads to sign for WMMM?
No, the fella above asked why Adolphe is ''struggling'' so my answer is that he's busy with other businesses and just when he was preparing his album some bastard called Werrason sent his shegue emissaries to steal Adolphe's singer Ferrari and now Adolphe probably had to restart all over with other singers since it's never a good idea to release an album which contains vocals by someone who has now gone to a rival band.
That guy Ferrari was one of the new finds by Adolphe and was promising, he was given all blessings and was to become lead singer of the band looking at the way Adolphe was promoting him.