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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on May 25, 2014, 16:47

Title: ARCHIVE WENGE MUSICA VS ANTI CHOC
Post by: archos on May 25, 2014, 16:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlEq1Ss3MqI

HAHA caludji doing some rap there
my God this group........
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Post by: Tunutu on May 25, 2014, 17:53
I have been looking for this video, Thank you Archos for the memories
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Post by: NEWSIDE96 on May 25, 2014, 19:39
Can't even criticize them in one word classic group 
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Post by: Zephania on May 25, 2014, 20:41
Team where is this madam dancing in these Wenge bcbg 4 x 4 clips  nowdays?
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Post by: archos on May 25, 2014, 21:09
Team where is this madam dancing in these Wenge bcbg 4 x 4 clips  nowdays?

She is in brussels and she is  the soon to be wife of ex wenge musica singer alain mpela
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Post by: archos on May 25, 2014, 21:23
adolphe and his dances :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: Tunutu on May 26, 2014, 07:28
Adolph was a very good dancer during BCBG era, he was my favorite dancer by then, But in Maioson Mere he became the big boss and was always out of steps on stage.
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Post by: SADIKI TIGER on May 26, 2014, 10:55
Please, continue to post more if you have the same in your music library. Other wise, if you may assist for collection of live performances videos of original Wenge Musica BCBG  recorded in DVDs or put in flash disk. I am ready to incur the related costs.   
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Post by: archos on May 26, 2014, 11:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb-QOiThbn0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVXnysD1LC8

part 2 and 3
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Post by: Ken Bilele on May 26, 2014, 13:13
Ee,  yo! man give me five!  heheh
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Post by: Tunutu on May 26, 2014, 13:15
In most concerts Werra and Jb were close to each other, I think Archos was right calling them twins
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Post by: archos on May 26, 2014, 13:22
today i will reveal an exclusive  info,makaba had a contract in his hands for zenith de paris,had not tensions worsened in 97 the group would have performed there,would have been so nice to have wenge musica in a true mythic hall of paris
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Post by: Tunutu on May 26, 2014, 13:46
today i will reveal an exclusive  info,makaba had a contract in his hands for zenith de paris,had not tensions worsened in 97 the group would have performed there,would have been so nice to have wenge musica in a true mythic hall of paris
Archos, do you want to tell us that despite all the good music that this band produced it didn't perform in Zenith? Why?
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Post by: archos on May 26, 2014, 13:52
during wenge's prime no congolese artist performed at zenith,if i recall well there was the zenith of abeti masikini with kester,pepe kalle as guests in 1988 then koffi  ten years later
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Post by: NEWSIDE96 on May 26, 2014, 14:08
Wenge in their prime were no.1 by the way listen to instrumentation in Kaskin perfection just as if they were in a studio was that christian mwepu on bass
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Post by: Tunutu on May 26, 2014, 14:20
Wenge in their prime were no.1 by the way listen to instrumentation in Kaskin perfection just as if they were in a studio was that christian mwepu on bass

And for those Werra critics,  should listen to his unique voice.
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Post by: Jdog on May 26, 2014, 16:02
Wenge in their prime were no.1 by the way listen to instrumentation in Kaskin perfection just as if they were in a studio was that christian mwepu on bass

And for those Werra critics,  should listen to his unique voice.
Are you okay??  :o
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Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 26, 2014, 16:17
Wenge in their prime were no.1 by the way listen to instrumentation in Kaskin perfection just as if they were in a studio was that christian mwepu on bass

And for those Werra critics,  should listen to his unique voice.
Let's face it, Werrason is an average singer but yes when pushed he sings okay but his singing is below par most of the time.
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Post by: archos on May 26, 2014, 16:57
guys who have some experience in guitars,i wonder why in clan wenge  maitre ficarré is  probably the one  who had those moments with  almost inaudible solo sound the most,what could be the reason behind it?
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Post by: NEWSIDE96 on May 26, 2014, 17:05
Well archos it depends on what you are watching because this video you clearly hear maitre ficarre's rhythm partitions of kaskin which was well played but to attempt answering your question maitre ficarre has stuck with the same black guitar (jackson kelly model) for about 20 years so maybe he needs to change his guitar and also ficarre loves the heavy string sounds a lot and sometime the can be a bit unheard and maybe his amp could also cause him problems for his sound. I hope this answers your question.
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Post by: archos on May 26, 2014, 17:14
Yes, i think i understand better,what i found strange is when they played masampu,if you listen to when  makaba  is on lead in the "tempete talaka bana" part and then  after ficarré takes over on masampu and later makaba restarts on lead for kaskin you'd almost think there was no soloist on masampu,a similar thing happened to him at jb's zenith where mbokaliya had to start his own song  djodjo ngonda and also play danico which he actually played in studio
on another note, i think this was the one of the best wenge musica concerts,along with the one which was broadcasted live by a french channel
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Post by: SADIKI TIGER on May 26, 2014, 17:34
Please, continue to post more  video of Wenge Musica BCBG, if you have the same in your music library. Other wise, you may assist for collection of live videos recorded in DVDs or put in flash disk. I am ready to incur the related costs.   
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Post by: shamala on May 26, 2014, 17:44
guys who have some experience in guitars,i wonder why in clan wenge  maitre ficarré is  probably the one  who had those moments with  almost inaudible solo sound the most,what could be the reason behind it?

I also find patty moleso inaudible...he was usually masked by drums rhythm and synthe..any particular reason?
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Post by: BG-ground on May 26, 2014, 18:09
Archos...you just made a grown ass man(me) tear up...tears of joy,emotion,Nostalgia!!!!tear bcuz I see close friends that passed away,and others that I lost contact with....GRAND MERCI
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Post by: NEWSIDE96 on May 26, 2014, 18:21
Yes, i think i understand better,what i found strange is when they played masampu,if you listen to when  makaba  is on lead in the "tempete talaka bana" part and then  after ficarré takes over on masampu and later makaba restarts on lead for kaskin you'd almost think there was no soloist on masampu,a similar thing happened to him at jb's zenith where mbokaliya had to start his own song  djodjo ngonda and also play danico which he actually played in studio
on another note, i think this was the one of the best wenge musica concerts,along with the one which was broadcasted live by a french channel

See the thing with fi-carre his a bit complacent as mbokaliya said his good but on Alain makaba's level, one concert in bataclan 1994 I could not even here is partition I think the other lead guitarists take over him because his too laid-back as a guitarist like on masampu makaba took over because he could not feel the energy and a bit off pitch but some how ficarre on  mi-solo and rhythm is actually excellent and what concert was broadcasted in live french tv???
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Post by: archos on May 26, 2014, 18:58
it was  one concert in LSC if i remember well,just after kalayi boeing,there was also a cameroonian artist who played before them
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Post by: BG-ground on May 27, 2014, 03:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTPLHakU36U

Another archive...Maradona and Marie-Paul still there... But couldn't identify the Mi-Solist....Collegien possibly?
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Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 27, 2014, 06:48
Archos, I think Newside has given a good answer to Ficarre's problem. It's mainly his guitar. Each make of guitar and each guitar produces different sound and what you find is that the higher the price, the better the sound.
Ficarre has been using the same guitar for over 20 years and it's so his sound has been the same. His other position is the position he plays on on the fret board, to me it seems he plays mi-solo and that's why his notes are thicker. He plays from half way position of the guitar. To produce very high sharp notes, soloists play further on the head of the guitar and some guitars are best suited for that especially BC Rich guitar.

If you check others like Kapaya, he's been playing with different guitars, when Maison Mere started, kapaya had a similar guitar to Ficarre's and the sound on the albums was different, on Kibuisa Mpimpa he changed his guitar to a lower end BC rich guitar,later on he changed to another proper rockers BC Rich guitar which is more expensive and has been using the type since.

Makaba and Roga Roga have been using the same guitars too, I think Lebou too, this is the steinberger guitar. Moleso and Mboka Liya use it too, it's a bit expensive too and has good sound. They have particularly thinner fret boards so easy to play on different positions including on the top end of the head of the guitar for high notes.

If you look at Thierry Mogratana, he had some cheap guitar when he joined Maison Mere. I think what he had was a cheap copy of Flamme Kapaya's BC Rich guitar and you heard the difference in tone and pitch between the two guitars. Kimbangu too uses Kapaya's favourite BC Rich and am sure you agree with me that their tone and pitch on the solo is kind of similar.
The likes of Ramazani, Correen and others also use expensive guitars and we know their standards on sound so the brand of guitar has a lot to do with the sound produced though it's also the soloist's styles and position on the fretboard as you'll find that some cheap guitars still produce decent sound if the soloist knows where to pick the notes from and the guitar amp is good enough.
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Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 27, 2014, 06:53
I also find patty moleso inaudible...he was usually masked by drums rhythm and synthe..any particular reason?
I think Moleso's sound was decent enough.
That particular model of Steinberger guiatr he likes which is a short guitar with a box type head doesn't produce thicker sound but light crisp clear notes but clear enough and when I watch BCBG concerts, Moleso's sound was excellent.
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Post by: Tunutu on May 27, 2014, 08:33
Archos, I think Newside has given a good answer to Ficarre's problem. It's mainly his guitar. Each make of guitar and each guitar produces different sound and what you find is that the higher the price, the better the sound.
Ficarre has been using the same guitar for over 20 years and it's so his sound has been the same. His other position is the position he plays on on the fret board, to me it seems he plays mi-solo and that's why his notes are thicker. He plays from half way position of the guitar. To produce very high sharp notes, soloists play further on the head of the guitar and some guitars are best suited for that especially BC Rich guitar.

If you check others like Kapaya, he's been playing with different guitars, when Maison Mere started, kapaya had a similar guitar to Ficarre's and the sound on the albums was different, on Kibuisa Mpimpa he changed his guitar to a lower end BC rich guitar,later on he changed to another proper rockers BC Rich guitar which is more expensive and has been using the type since.

Makaba and Roga Roga have been using the same guitars too, I think Lebou too, this is the steinberger guitar. Moleso and Mboka Liya use it too, it's a bit expensive too and has good sound. They have particularly thinner fret boards so easy to play on different positions including on the top end of the head of the guitar for high notes.

If you look at Thierry Mogratana, he had some cheap guitar when he joined Maison Mere. I think what he had was a cheap copy of Flamme Kapaya's BC Rich guitar and you heard the difference in tone and pitch between the two guitars. Kimbangu too uses Kapaya's favourite BC Rich and am sure you agree with me that their tone and pitch on the solo is kind of similar.
The likes of Ramazani, Correen and others also use expensive guitars and we know their standards on sound so the brand of guitar has a lot to do with the sound produced though it's also the soloist's styles and position on the fretboard as you'll find that some cheap guitars still produce decent sound if the soloist knows where to pick the notes from and the guitar amp is good enough.

I thought that every Band has to buy guitars for their musicians, so in the event that the band has more than one solo guitarists, they will be changing the guitars whenever they play?
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Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 27, 2014, 09:13
I thought that every Band has to buy guitars for their musicians, so in the event that the band has more than one solo guitarists, they will be changing the guitars whenever they play?
Probably the band leaders don't really care what instruments they have,only serious musicians understand so they would be going for high quality instruments however, in music, every serious guitarist should have their own guitar,it is the tool of their trade,Kapaya is an example,he never messes about, he loves them BC Rich guitars even when he bought the double fret/neck guitar,it was all for show,he still uses BC Rich for proper sebene because it's what he's used to and he knows it produces the distinct sound he likes so wherever he goes he has to have that special guitar,it's the same thing with Maitre Ficarre,he's has that guitar for over 20 years,Makaba too has a cream Steinberger as his trademark.
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Post by: archos on May 27, 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOf3FSYDuVM
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Post by: archos on May 28, 2014, 17:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr63uv986cY

HMMM alain makaba prince kayele  ordinateur 148 memoires
adolphe is such an entertainer ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: archos on June 10, 2014, 10:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORAf8Av-mdw