Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Jdog on June 06, 2014, 03:31
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT7nKJvutH4
He says that Bercy was the captain of the animation department in Ferre's group and he(Kunzardo) was the chef. He says the day before the Zenith concert Ferre told him that after the Zenith concert big things happen to Kunzardo and after that he came up with the very successful dance and animation "Ziki Koko" (which was actually performed at that Zenith) Kunzardo said that is idol in animation was Celeo and Tutu Caludji. He says that Celeo's most succesul animation was 'Koyimbi Ko" and for Tutu Caludji it was "Ndombolo". He says that Tutu Caludji's Ndombolo animation gave a Congolese music a name and a lot people used that animation and dance but with Koyimbi-Ko alot people danced that dance but with their own animation. He says that Ivorians have no dance and it really bothers him that people say that Congolese music is behind their music. And that when they played at the festival in Abidjan they called him king of animation. He says there's no animator that can animate with him in the 5th generation apart from Brigade. He says that he doesn't animate loudly where it makes noise in the house and you have to turn down the volume if if it's on TV. He confirms that that the "alati string" animation was the animation of a guy who is now at Maison Mere(Kirikou) and they gave it to Bercy because Kirikou didn't have the voice to do it. He says that Ferre wanted to give that animation to Kunzardo but he refused because he only wanted to do his own animation. He says that he doesn't witchcraft and that even his dad said for him not to do it because the day he will do it, it will be very hard to come back from it.
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Thanx a lot for the translation, this helps those who don't understand lingala.
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He confirms that that the "alati string" animation was the animation of a guy who is now at Maison Mere(Kirikou) and they gave it to Bercy because Kirikou didn't have the voice to do it.
So now you accept what I have been saying....... that Bercy did absolutely nothing on Boite Noire right?
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I like this guy so much. He can chain a generique alone unlike these other guys who do short disjointed calls. If Bercy is harnessed like WMM is doing to him, we would get the closest combo to Bill and Celeo. Kunzardo is talented and I give Ferre thumbs up coz many leaders would have been confused and ended up not giving him space.
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He confirms that that the "alati string" animation was the animation of a guy who is now at Maison Mere(Kirikou) and they gave it to Bercy because Kirikou didn't have the voice to do it.
So now you accept what I have been saying....... that Bercy did absolutely nothing on Boite Noire right?
Bercy did a lot of work in concerts that wasn't used in the album.
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Kunzardo is talented and I give Ferre thumbs up coz many leaders would have been confused and ended up not giving him space.
Why do you say that? He would've space from any artsiest if he wasn't with Ferre.
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Bercy did a lot of work in concerts that wasn't used in the album.
One logical conclusion we can make is that some of the work he did at concerts wasn't actually his just like when he went to Maison Mere, he modified some work done by Ferre's female ataluku Ruth Nzele and by Mapipo and that's why Mapipo has now attacked him in 4 interviews accusing him of stealing his work. Anyway, so far Bercy has only shown us that he's good in Coupe decalle style and not proper sebene. He's got the voice and stage presence so maybe at Maison Mere he'll be forced to produce better stuff in order to guarantee his position or he'll be kicked out, Werrason doesn't carry passengers.
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Bercy did nothing on Boite Noire.....the concerts work were just noise and freestyles that has no sense and couldn't be used as a proper animation in the album.
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Bercy did do his own stuff in Boite Noire. It's the animation after Muana Congo's animation.Bercy was the one who created that animation but I think Ferre gave it to Muana Congo to do at concerts (even though he could've done Lubukulukumu). Bercy said in an interview that they did a generique which was supposed to be the main one and the current main one was supposed to be the second. And when Ferre went to Paris to do the mixing he removed that generique from the album and Bercy strated that generique by going "toko kende likolo".So alot of Bercy's work was removed. And Bercy also had an animation that went like "oko boma nga lelo Jackie Chan" which wasn't used in Boite Noire.
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Bercy did do his own stuff in Boite Noire. It's the animation after Muana Congo's animation.Bercy was the one who created that animation but I think Ferre gave it to Muana Congo to do at concerts
no mate, it was the other way around....that animation was created by Muana Congo but Ferre gave it to Bercy. Boite Noire is Kunzardo's generique and Bercy was given the Coupe Decale one and kibombanda generique was a mix and Bercy used Kiriki animation on that one aswell.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT7nKJvutH4
He says that Bercy was the captain of the animation department in Ferre's group and he(Kunzardo) was the chef. He says the day before the Zenith concert Ferre told him that after the Zenith concert big things happen to Kunzardo and after that he came up with the very successful dance and animation "Ziki Koko" (which was actually performed at that Zenith) Kunzardo said that is idol in animation was Celeo and Tutu Caludji. He says that Celeo's most succesul animation was 'Koyimbi Ko" and for Tutu Caludji it was "Ndombolo". He says that Tutu Caludji's Ndombolo animation gave a Congolese music a name and a lot people used that animation and dance but with Koyimbi-Ko alot people danced that dance but with their own animation. He says that Ivorians have no dance and it really bothers him that people say that Congolese music is behind their music. And that when they played at the festival in Abidjan they called him king of animation. He says there's no animator that can animate with him in the 5th generation apart from Brigade. He says that he doesn't animate loudly where it makes noise in the house and you have to turn down the volume if if it's on TV. He confirms that that the "alati string" animation was the animation of a guy who is now at Maison Mere(Kirikou) and they gave it to Bercy because Kirikou didn't have the voice to do it. He says that Ferre wanted to give that animation to Kunzardo but he refused because he only wanted to do his own animation. He says that he doesn't witchcraft and that even his dad said for him not to do it because the day he will do it, it will be very hard to come back from it.
Thanks alot for translation. You have made it much better for us from Kenya. God bless you.
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Bercy did do his own stuff in Boite Noire. It's the animation after Muana Congo's animation.Bercy was the one who created that animation but I think Ferre gave it to Muana Congo to do at concerts
no mate, it was the other way around....that animation was created by Muana Congo but Ferre gave it to Bercy. Boite Noire is Kunzardo's generique and Bercy was given the Coupe Decale one and kibombanda generique was a mix and Bercy used Kiriki animation on that one aswell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIBLrVkVpUU
It was originally done by Bercy.
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Janvion, I also noticed that Bercy and Kirikou used the same "hein yango" animation. (Bercy at the end of Kibombanda and Kirikou in Courrer De Jupon)
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Bercy did do his own stuff in Boite Noire. It's the animation after Muana Congo's animation.Bercy was the one who created that animation but I think Ferre gave it to Muana Congo to do at concerts
no mate, it was the other way around....that animation was created by Muana Congo but Ferre gave it to Bercy. Boite Noire is Kunzardo's generique and Bercy was given the Coupe Decale one and kibombanda generique was a mix and Bercy used Kiriki animation on that one aswell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIBLrVkVpUU
It was originally done by Bercy.
Thank you, you see this same concert there was a short video online of the rep and Ferre even says Muana Congo lost his voice and couldn't do that animation so Bercy did it instead. The "yango yo" animation was created again by Kirikou just like pasi ya pamba