Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Jdog on June 17, 2014, 04:23
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"Likambu yako kamua nafandi na mouvement ya mutu afutaka nga te ba nzembo na nga nioso na bimisa ye mutu alia ba mbongo makambu nioso nasala ba boyi yango lelo nawuti kosamba afundi nga likolo ya 800 dollars oyo akambela nga banda nakota mai nayebi ke azo luka na loba mabe po batu bayina nga mai eko simba te justice ya nzambe esala musala na yango"
-Deplick
He says that it's very shocking to him that he was in a band where they boss never paid him. He says that all the songs that he has done with Maison Mere, Werra got all the money from it and didn't give him any. He says that all the good work he did for Maison Mere has gone unnoticed by them. He also said the the most he ever got from Werra was 800 dollars and that was when he first came in the group. Deplick says that Werra is waiting for him to talk bad about Maiosn Mere so they can attack him but he is not going to do it because he says the justice of God will be more then enough.
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What the pay issue again? I just wonder why they talk about pay ONLY after leaving?Archos you promised to post about salary and payment ..
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How was he surviving all the years if not paid? Was he forced to remain with the band, he is just seeking attention
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No he's not looking for polemic, Sankara de Kunta said shit about him Deplik, Marchouse, Cupuccino and others in an interview over the weekend so Deplik says he doesn't want to be drawn into polemic.
The guy has been full of praises for Werrason since he left the band, you fans need to give him credit.
By now you should know that most bands don't pay salaries, they get some allowances when they travel so musicians in a band like Werra depend on money from mabanga paid directly to them by fans and friends of the band who want their names mentioned in the lyrics that these musicians do and when they are lucky to have a full song then that's time they get good money even the cars the musicians drive, most are donated by fans,dont forget the fancy clothes and jewellery too.
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deplick did not deserve what sankara did,even though history has shown that many guys sankara slaughtered on tv,still talked to him in private, they are humans after all
and he deserves credit for not playing sankara's game, a strong character guy like celeo or bill would certainly not let it go like that
the pay issue also still exists for one reason,except the case of koffi with some who signed contracts with him,most musicians in all groups join them like that,at that moment the most important thing for them being benefeting from being next to a big star,getting a comfortable life
then when they grow up they have more responsabilities so are more demanding in terms of a clearly set salary so they do not rely only on begging
i am sure one day if a guy comes to a group from nowhere and asks for a salary when accepted he might get slapped
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Every week, Maison Mere plays at La Zamba full packed, are the fans not paying? I think about 3000 fan attend Lazamba show weekly, and if every fan pays 5 dollars an average of what I pay when I go to watch FM Academia our leading Congolese band in Tanzania, then that is about 15,000 dollars, add the money from sponsors. Something is wrong somewhere.
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yes brother,you know the money issues are strange in congolese groups,in every group including the case of koffi known for giving salary and nice entrance fees to big names comling from rival groups, a musicians who complain about money while he is in the group,his career with them is as good as over,they will start causing him any type of trouble with benedction from the boss
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Every week, Maison Mere plays at La Zamba full packed, are the fans not paying? I think about 3000 fan attend Lazamba show weekly, and if every fan pays 5 dollars an average of what I pay when I go to watch FM Academia our leading Congolese band in Tanzania, then that is about 15,000 dollars, add the money from sponsors. Something is wrong somewhere.
Oh, so you're in TZ too,are you friends with Princesab? ;D ;D
This money issue is all about greed by the leaders otherwise they can afford to pay their musicians some decent wages even weekly that's why when musicians grow older, they want to leave and that doesn't go down well with greedy leaders who want these small boys to be their tools to their luxury.
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Is this system different from slavery?
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its a bit more nice than slavery lol but yet again the fact most of the guys joining bands are extermely naive does not help
for the leaders,it's like they are those who gave them life instead of God and their parents so they think they do everything with them
singers and instruments are lucky,if i say what happens with female dancers it will seriously shock people
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EVERY BOSS HAS HIS OWN PROBLEMS.
SALARY IS ALWAYS NOT ENOUGH.
We are not always happy with what we are paid.
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Amazing....why do Maison Mere fans always seem to blame the artist even when evidence is at hand......so werra is perfect and does nothing wrong.....ahhh ki fanatic eza mabe
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the common denominator is clear. to put blame on the artist when several artists have complained about the same thing is blind loyalty. although they say it is not werra but his advisors he has to shoulder the blame as it is him who makes the decisions to take advise from certain ppl. i enjoy maison mere musically but as a leader werrason has lost my respect over the last year or so. way too much negativity in his camp.
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the common denominator is clear. to put blame on the artist when several artists have complained about the same thing is blind loyalty. although they say it is not werra but his advisors he has to shoulder the blame as it is him who makes the decisions to take advise from certain ppl. i enjoy maison mere musically but as a leader werrason has lost my respect over the last year or so. way too much negativity in his camp.
Voila!!!
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its a bit more nice than slavery lol but yet again the fact most of the guys joining bands are extermely naive does not help
for the leaders,it's like they are those who gave them life instead of God and their parents so they think they do everything with them
singers and instruments are lucky,if i say what happens with female dancers it will seriously shock people
What happens with female dancers?
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in some groups they are "shared" between the leader and some of the group main men,or offered to donors,in several cases when you see people going on stage to give money and secretly talk to the leader,some of the guys "pick" the dancer they want at that very moment,or dancers are sent on mission to get lots of money from a donor,in some cases also they'd offer them to some of their friends in what they call gangbang or something like that
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If you see such things happening in one of the industries a country is identified with then the blame does not only stop with the players, it extends to the government. Congo as a country is still raw!! There are things which can not happen in a country where working structures and good labor laws is practiced. If there were structures Deplick would easily walk to the nearest lawyer to take up the case but we've never seen any going to court perhaps it would be an exercise in futility.
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If you see such things happening in one of the industries a country is identified with then the blame does not only stop with the players, it extends to the government. Congo as a country is still raw!! There are things which can not happen in a country where working structures and good labor laws is practiced. If there were structures Deplick would easily walk to the nearest lawyer to take up the case but we've never seen any going to court perhaps it would be an exercise in futility.
Mboka Liya Burkina Faso once tried to go in the court against Werra because Werra slapped him, it finished with the judge assolving Werra because he was afraid that the Werrasonique might kill him or burn his house. But I think that all these leaders will pay one day, they are already paying loosing success and they will pay suffering once they will be old.
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Sankara de Kunta could also being this because he said that he is making music. Maybe this could be one ploy into attacking these men so he can get attention helping him getting his music started. Sankara lives on polemic stuff.
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Sankara de Kunta could also being this because he said that he is making music. Maybe this could be one ploy into attacking these men so he can get attention helping him getting his music started. Sankara lives on polemic stuff.
He says the things Werra would like to say, but that Werra don't says because he needs to behave like the old and calm leader with no interest in beefing -.-
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Like Musikasika once wisely said; be greatful of the opportunity La Zamba offered you and move on. Make hits and we'll support you like we do with all graduates...
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It's always good for them when they are in the group but the moment they leave they try to make us believe it was the most 5 or so miserable years of their lives.
Deplick is just starting out as a leader and he's the biggest and only star in his group. The musicians in his group will do just fine with a little fame and probably won't have so many demands.
At some point he's gonna have stars in his group who will be feeling like they deserve more than they are getting. Then he'll come face to face with what the likes of Werra have to deal with everyday
And when he starts going abroad for concerts he'll also start facing the dilemma of who to take with him and who to leave behind and then there will be dissatisfaction among his musicians. Let's see how he handles that when he gets there.
For now it's easier for Deplick to talk and give all the advice about how to run an ochestre like I saw in on interview. He's not handled anything yet.
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this deplick post is almost 4 years old it was only revived due to a question about dancers,deplick always show his respect for werra ever since that incident
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this deplick post is almost 4 years old it was only revived due to a question about dancers,deplick always show his respect for werra ever since that incident
Archos and you havent given me Lionel Messi's (WMM) number. Iam still waiting. LOl