Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on August 24, 2014, 21:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5wTGoM_qAY
translation comng shortly after, gotta eat first lol(like papa wemba i could not resist to that nice smell of food hahahhahaha)
but this is definitely by far the most credible person to talk about clan wenge outside the musicians and maybe mbuta kiss
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Lol Archos ozo lia nini? And why are there soo many Wenge stories, I want to hear JB and Werra's stories or maybe even Titina until then I don't care for Wenge stories.
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first of all,kija is werra's cousin and a very very influent member of wenge musica
he says idea of creating the group came from aimé bwanga,along with werrason and didier masela all three then living very close to each other in bandal,jb was then living in gombe and was not yet there
werra was playing drums,makeshift one of course with a piece of wood and makeshit sticks,aimé bwanga and masela were singing
werra was so passionate about music that he was often beaten by a guy who had a laundry and werra used to try to play drums on his working table, and he was calling werrason nowerra to differentiate him with another noel who was in celio stars and this is what created the name werra( turned later into werrason on jb's idea)
then when the group switched from celio stars to wenge musica,jb mpiana arrived along with zingzong and makaba,but machiro kifaya( who is kija's brother) was sidelined from stage because werra was not really at ease with having his cousin in the same group but remained close to the group but he was the star from the former group
he says alain mpela arrived in wenge before marie paul and deserves a lot of respect because he contributed a lot in the group and that they were very reluctant to him joining the group because he did not really fit the profiles werra jb and co wanted in wenge so it was very hard to get him in the group
also,there was already two untouchable bass singers in the group in blaise bula and werra,and jb's microphone was untouchable aswell so a third bass singer with jb only as a tenor was not good enough,there was deno star on the 4th mic then adolphe replaced him and was sharing the mic with alain mpela who mostly was in rehearsals because he was extremely young
when they tried to do that first europe tour with wenge musica and jb werra blaise were arrested,it inspired jb when they were released and he composed kin e bouger(modifying the first part of the kin e bouger which was sung in concert well before and dropping the parts which ended in no comment schengen much later)
kija adds like that jb mpiana was like a prophet on wenge story,everything he predicted before the group got national and international success happened and that jb's vision and determination was crucial in wenge's development and werra had that great strategic sense
wenge musica got fame in brazzaville before in kinshasa,because kija was going there to promote the group and had to do playbacks for them even though he was not a singer
about the split,he said he was a tough moment but it helped jb and werra shine,they had a very strong relationship and it was hard to create trouble between them and if someone tried he became their common enemy, but the more the group grew,the more bad people arrived around them to motivate them
when jb decided recording feux de l'amour,all had accepted the idea in kinshasa but once in europe werra and masela were not really up for it anymore and jb was not happy about a lot of things within the group's administration
kija also says producers came in to destroy the group( monsieur simon) for their own interests,and after with success of album jb became a great star
when the group performed in ivory coast,one day with jb another with werra and without jb and vice versa it already showed signs of the split
after that,kija rubbishes marie paul's claim of having played a massive role in maison mere's creation
kija reveals that when the group split,the first person he called was koffi olomide who was then very close to his cousin werra and he laments the fact the relationship between werra and koffi is not good today because of people around them
and also reveals that when jb and co arrived in europe,him and werra were also in europe sometimes for playbacks and that jb told him in his first phone call after the split that maybe if he was in kinshasa when the group split after unsuccesful reunions to sort out their problems,maybe the split would not have happened because he knew how to deal with their characters very well to sort things out
when werra decided to continue with tata and masela he requested him to send japonais back from europe to create a new rhythm since the pure wenge musica rhythm was dead
to finish,kija also hits out at mbokaliya who claims jb and werra want him deported back to congo because they lack a good soloist,calling him a mythomaniac because jb and werra already bounced back from his departure and do not need him and it really hurts him to see a guy like him trying to tarnish jb and werra's reputation
kija says he will continue in other interviews because there is a lot more to say
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Lol Archos ozo lia nini? And why are there soo many Wenge stories, I want to hear JB and Werra's stories or maybe even Titina until then I don't care for Wenge stories.
suka na makemba na pili pili na kamundele hahahahaha :D :D :D :D :D
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So what is he image Wenge were lookig for because he said Alain Mpela wasn't the image they were looking for.
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Damn u Archos, just as I was about to post it.. U already beat me to it
Which reminds me.... U still owe us the story frm Pentagone to the split! While talking about BCBG would you tell us the real reason why Plein Feux came out almost 4yrs later, and the tension in the group after Makaba's Pile ou Face and how he managed to gt Titina, Roberto, Jb only! Not even his good friends Blaise,Tata, and Fondé!
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So what is he image Wenge were lookig for because he said Alain Mpela wasn't the image they were looking for.
It is rather marie paul,and the image was that they were students and had a certain class and were not into sreet behaviour like clan viva zaiko(which for them marie paul did not fit)
and also since blaise and werra were untouchable as deuxieme voix they wanted a premiere voix to go with jb and create balance in the chorus
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So what is he image Wenge were lookig for because he said Alain Mpela wasn't the image they were looking for.
It is rather marie paul,and the image was that they were students and had a certain class and were not into sreet behaviour like clan viva zaiko(which for them marie paul did not fit)
So Zaiko and Viva wanted thugs and Wenge wanted not necessarily rich guys but guys who are well put to together correct?
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yes somehow, for example reddy was a former gangster in yolo despite a very good school background aswell lol,in wenge they wanted to promote themselves as a group of students,and each of them brought fans from his school werra from isc,blaise from ista,jb isc and athenee de la gombe and so on
the generation of caludji,ferré,seguin,aimelia also were students but they all stopped class earlier than the generation of jb werra
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Damn u Archos, just as I was about to post it.. U already beat me to it
Which reminds me.... U still owe us the story frm Pentagone to the split! While talking about BCBG would you tell us the real reason why Plein Feux came out almost 4yrs later, and the tension in the group after Makaba's Pile ou Face and how he managed to gt Titina, Roberto, Jb only! Not even his good friends Blaise,Tata, and Fondé!
yes the story will come you know sometimes i forget a couple of things maybe the next interview of kija will bring me back more memories
back on the other questions,the reason plein feux came out 4 years later was that saddam had a conflict with wenge musica and went to support el paris,jb especially was one of the main reasons of that conflict because of a glrl who loved jb and who saddam wanted something like that, haha jb was often humiliated but bana wenge protected that story quite well
alain prince recorded pile ou face while wenge was in paris but as he did not want to use whole wenge he picked jb,roberto and titina
alain explained recently in interviews that it would have been nothing new to perform with wenge men only so he wanted to try something different
if you notice well makaba had on pile ou face most of the singers he rates as his favorites jb,kester,yogo,luciana
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sounds like lots of girls were either interested or love with jb but what about werra tho ;D
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I wonder why Kija Brown is now talking.
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I wonder why Kija Brown is now talking.
the journalist is try to get as much possible infos on wenge on demand of may fans,so thats why, and dont be surprised if you soon see masela or makaba for example interviewed aswell and maybe jb and werra one day
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sounds like lots of girls were either interested or love with jb but what about werra tho ;D
lol werra is more of a "sniper" very dangerous but you will struggle to see any sight of him with another girl whereas jb has that reputation of a serial lover following him since the beginning of wenge with sometimes proof ( for example pictures kissing other girls ;D ;D)
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hehe just figured out my first sentence is one of those short sentences kaisari would be proud of :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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hehe just figured out my first sentence is one of those short sentences kaisari would be proud of :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Simple and to the point ;D ;D ;D Back to the topic, it would be nice for you or one of this journalist to come up with a Clan Wenge documentary where all or most of the founders are interviewed separate and then maybe together with music clips of each member's best contribution and a grand reunion concert; but i bet that will probably happen when they are around Simaro's age.
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I like Ado's idea of que sont ils devenu, but sometimes I'd like him to let ppl develop their idea as they answer his questions...like he ask the question to know how they moved to the wenge's name,and then cut him off to ask about Zing, Makaba and JB.. Then goes to that ridiculous question of Mpela vs Marie Paul..frankly I start getting anoyed by it. Kija clarified a lot of things for that matter ...now I hope he wont bring it up while interviewing other members.
Now i wanna know that anecdote about 70,000 nz and pthers lol