Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on September 02, 2014, 15:55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q12yhFD14N4
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HERE IS A LITTLE TRANSLATION
santiago says when wenge musica became bcbg vs maison mere,marie paul and werrason were very close and that maison mere have hidden the video of their first ever concert to make sure what marie paul did to them is forgotten
he adds he has no intent of disrespecting werra who is older than him but since himself santiago was at that concert he wants truth to be restored,and even describes exactly how they all were dressed that day(werra,jdt,adolphe) and says el paris just finished a concert at stade du 20 mai before that concert of the then still wenge musica 4X4 and that they brought with them a good part of the stadium and the bar werra and co played in was overcrowded because they already had some fans and the arrival of el paris made it very hard for people to walk properly in the bar
santiago says he was behind didier masela on the podium,ferré can confirm what he says is true,kapaya,mabiala aswell but kakol wont say the truth because he is still a maison mere member,japonais were not there yet he was still in europe
when marie paul entered the bar,there was a sudden power cut(due to magic powe) and to confirm once again his version is true,described how marie paul was dressed in a tshirt with american flag and that there was too much crowd that he even needed to jump on people's shoulders to reach stage
werra then said if there are sudden power cuts,it means the king has arrived and once on stage,marie paul taunted jb saying he went to create wenge mbuji mayi( in reference to jb's ethnic origin) and added " this is wenge maison mere" of didier masela and pointed his finger towards didier and said they can't let their careers and the name of wenge musica disappear like that,adolphe and werra agreed with him and marie paul's name was added on several of their first concert posters and he participated in some
and that's how the name maison mere appeared and proof is on the cover of their first album intervention rapide its written " wenge musica" and maison mere arrived on second album after in the name since it came after marie paul's idea
manda chante was not happy that marie paul supported werra because werra had a bad behiavour in wenge 4X4 so he warned marie paul to werra would abandon him once he got what he wanted and he should have let werra alone and even threatened to leave the group should marie paul give all his energy in helping werra in the name of their common origins
many close members of el paris were also against marie paul strongly supporting werra like that and history showed those guys were actually right
marie paul was so fully behind werra that one day in tanzania when he heard werra had created huge buzz in kinshasa with his arrival at a concert on a horse and woke his musicians( including santiago himself of course) up to tell them " you see,werra has succeeded and reached what i wanted(becoming more popular than the other leader of wenge from the rival ethnic group,jb)
and to finish about that,he said el paris guys do not expect money from werra but just that bit of gratefulness for what marie paul did for him
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I always taught that their first concert ever was at La Zamba Playa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FECl52IUbic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeqcawpl9bI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJDYMFeo8xI
Werrason was really obsessed, he really wanted to prove JB a point. He came to perform everywhere after a week or two weeks where BCBG did perform and planned always fara-fara's against JB if he was planning an big evenement. That concert of Werrason at Palais du Peuple (called Atterrissage Force) where he came with an horse and that fara-fara of JB at Zenith de Paris and Werrason in Villejuif are nice example
In which concert of Werrason at Stade de Martyrs did lost Marie-Paul his power?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5HxCEb5faM
from 6:48 min.
or was this who was mpiaka, before the release of Solola Bien
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7o2F2qcR4Q
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no santiago and chaplin were acually right,in the concert which is mentioned by them
e baby and adjani were not there yet
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If I remember well one of the first concerts of Maison Mere was either in Vis a vis, Grand hotel or Moto na Moto de bandal If I remember well
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voila this is what santiago and chaplin are saying the scene they talk about was in vis a vis,and then later,days or weeks after they played in moto na moto abongisa which was previously taken by bcbg if i remember well
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And the plot thickens, so who brought Marie to Wenge in the first place and who kicked him out.
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Nobody kicked Marie-Paul out, it was him self who decided to stay Europe, after feeling uncomfortable in Wenge due to that incident with Aime Buanga and Ricoco.
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Where is Ado Yuhe referring to with trowing stones ?
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Where is Ado Yuhe referring to with trowing stones ?
That was at a concert at YMCA stadium when relationship was starting to turn bad between nsone and mwant yav marie paul,some of his ba ndimi were to throw stones to the singers of maison mere
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I've a few question about the beginning of Wenge Maison Mere and Wenge BCBG.
Did Maradona ever play an concert in the beginning of Maison Mere? and why was he refused/fired ?
Was Ali Mbonda playing with Wenge BCBG in their first concerts/rehearsals before their Europe-tour, because I had an tape of Maison Mere's first concert at Zamba Playa where I saw Papy Mbonda playing the conga's instead of Ali Mbonda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfX7gBszFiI&list=WL&index=4
Before he's talking about that concert of Vis-a-Vis, he's talking about a march they did towards the place where BCBG was performing, is that story true ?
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Nobody kicked Marie-Paul out, it was him self who decided to stay Europe, after feeling uncomfortable in Wenge due to that incident with Aime Buanga and Ricoco.
The decision that begun his downfall...staying in Europe.
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I've a few question about the beginning of Wenge Maison Mere and Wenge BCBG.
Did Maradona ever play an concert in the beginning of Maison Mere? and why was he refused/fired ?
Was Ali Mbonda playing with Wenge BCBG in their first concerts/rehearsals before their Europe-tour, because I had an tape of Maison Mere's first concert at Zamba Playa where I saw Papy Mbonda playing the conga's instead of Ali Mbonda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfX7gBszFiI&list=WL&index=4
Before he's talking about that concert of Vis-a-Vis, he's talking about a march they did towards the place where BCBG was performing, is that story true ?
no maradona did not play,let me explain to you how it actually was, werra's first plan was to lure seguin (remember what kusangila said about werra planning to have a mini-band within wenge musica for a couple of concerts on his own, it had ferre,seguin,mboka or ficarré,mabanga and theo bidens) but since seguin got so close to jb and even went to live with him in the last days of wenge musica the plan changed
they tested at la samba masela had kept after wenge musica split as the group founder(not saying this to belittle werra and tata) 7 drummers,maradona,a drummer from the delta force the guy who was sharing drum role with cambodge then i forgot his name, bebeto who is now in bcbg ,kakol and three other guys including one who was rejected along with champion esthetique when wenge musica 4X4 picked seguin
all them did good but since kakol's play was different with the tradi-modern style of kibinda,werra said ok i'll keep him and we will create a different identity from the one of titina
yes ali was first with bcbg but it was so-so for him since he had that image of a guy very close to werra and blaise who was directing rehearsals thought he was actually sent to spy them,so he did not enter the list of europe tour and seguin who had advantage of playing drums and mbonda was taken on tour
yes what sankara said is true they did it twice,once like sankara said and once with marie paul and his power(he was also doing to wenge 4X4 sometimes)
bcbg were rehearsing at moto na moto if i remember well with blaise and the rest of the guys except jb who was busy looking for contracts as soon as possible,as he was more determined than ever to prove a point to werra after than incident during the negotiations to avoid wenge split where werra wanted to punch him in the face for paying the musicians without telling him
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so bebeto is that old!