Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Djodjo B on November 04, 2014, 13:24
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1. Does your favorite Drummer ALWAYS gives a good tempo and keeps it through the song?
2. Have you seen him play a concert where there is no break between songs (non-stop show
where songs have different tempos)?
3. Do you feel that the bass guitar played in the song is compatible with his way of playing the
bass drum?
4. Does your favorite Drummer have the following qualities? Has the speed, is versatile, has
great techniques, is a good listener and has the groove. Remember this... doing complicated
things does not necessarily make someone a good drummer. Ask yourself if what he is doing
is right for the music.
When it comes to Congolese music, I will tell you that the sebene is the easiest part to play. There are like three different rhythms on the snare. The Drummer chooses the one he thinks will be compatible with the solo guitar rhythm. But the tempo is still the same.
The urban dictionary definition of the word “Groove” is: An adjective describing a rhythmic quality of music that is emotionally communicative and soulful; used for music moving at a steady beat.
You can name non-Congolese Drummers too. ;) ;) ;)
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I dont want to finish reading your question but titina to me is greatest. Even the likes of meri jo dont match. The worst is segiun mignon of bcbg.
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I dont want to finish reading your question but titina to me is greatest. Even the likes of meri jo dont match. The worst is segiun mignon of bcbg.
Why is Seguin the worst? I know Titina's work...not Seguin's. Why do you think JB keeps him as the main Drummer in his band?
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Cambodge is the best drummer at the moment hands down!!!!
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I dont want to finish reading your question but titina to me is greatest. Even the likes of meri jo dont match. The worst is segiun mignon of bcbg.
Why is Seguin the worst? I know Titina's work...not Seguin's. Why do you think JB keeps him as the main Drummer in his band?
Is is the worst because he does not hit the drums and in a melodic way. Jb keeps him as a friend not as artist.
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Cambodge is the best drummer at the moment hands down!!!!
Cambodge is from which band? Can you please share a video of him (live concert)?
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Is is the worst because he does not hit the drums and in a melodic way. Jb keeps him as a friend not as artist.
There maybe some other drumming qualities you don't see in Seguin. I would be very surprised that JB keeps him because of friendship. ;D ;D ;D
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Cambodge is the best drummer at the moment hands down!!!!
Cambodge is from which band? Can you please share a video of him (live concert)?
Cambodge is from F. Victeam and he has played on Hustler Is Back and Original and I will look for concert videos later.
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cambodge played here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh0uJIRdFYY
aswell as on hustler is back and power 001,original was played by arnaud madruma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PPyw9XpJd0
and much more recently here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-XqhB-B6tQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVMN7m4Nnk
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Thanks archos for sharing. I'll have a look at the videos later; the firewall prevents me from watching youtube.
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i have three all time favorite as drummers titina,his model richacha aswell as patcho star
viva la musica was blessed with drummers,koyongonda,awilo,richacha,patcho,more recently deo...
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Archos, how do you know that he played on Robinho's generique??
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My favorites are Deo Sfr (R.I.P.), Cambodge (due to Effrakata & Generation Bercy), Titina Al Capone and Champion Djikapela. It makes me always laughs when Champion never wants to name Cambodge name in interviews.
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Archos, how do you know that he played on Robinho's generique??
because he said it somewhere,cant remember where with the millions of congolese "sites" these days but he said he played deplick's generique,robinho's,cappucino's and foreign artists are wanting him to participate to their albums
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Archos, how do you know that he played on Robinho's generique??
because he said it somewhere,cant remember where with the millions of congolese "sites" these days but he said he played deplick's generique,robinho's,cappucino's and foreign artists are wanting him to participate to their albums
He said that he played on Deplick's generique on Rdcongoinfos with Mathy Kasongo.
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Here is an anecdote for you. There was a Viva La Musica concert in Paris (early 90’s) where three big Drummers had to perform that night with the band. There were Djudju Chet, Awilo Longomba and Richacha. The Drummer who came early for the sound check was Richacha. The second guy to show up was Djudju Chet...he joined Richacha on stage to have a look at the drum set. Once he saw what Richacha did to the kit, he said in lingala: “Drum penza ezalaka boye...oyo e bimisaka suka na son”. ??? ??? ??? Translation:”A drum kit set up this way makes a very good sound”. Richacha did not say anything.
Djudju Chet asked him:”are you the one who set up this kit?”. :) :) :)
Richacha said:”Yes, it’s me”.
Djudju said:”No, it’s not you”. :) :) :)
Richacha:”Never mind...I know I’m the one who did this. It’s your problem if you don’t want to believe me”. :D :D :D
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For me my preferred drummers are Djudju Chet because his discography and his basically played drums in every generations albums/songs and Titina because he uses each drum set equipment which many after don't not really do so and obviously Meridjo who is one of the pioneers in drumming creating sebene, there are many other drummers are talented in congo and brazzaville as well I won't waste time typing. Djodjo B who are your favourites
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It is very difficult to single out particular instrumentalists because most of them are very good based on the criteria set above but I must give credit to Titina Alcapone, Simolo Katondi and Ramatoulaye, these are fully versatile and can play rhumba or sebene or even other genres perfectly, I like these three because they utilise all the drum pieces effectively,i think Champion Esthetique and Tche Tche De Balle can be added to the list of the top 5 that are very active today otherwise there are many others out there.
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People who know me (virtually) know that Richacha is my favorite. He is the only Drummer form Congo from 1900 to 2014 who performed in many different styles of music with well known Artists (Neg’ Marrons’, The Wailers, Alpha Blondy, Barrington Levy, Papa Wemba, etc.). Some Drummers can be good or look good, but when trying to do another style of music, they get lost. Richacha plays any drum kit you offer and mixes electronic and acoustic drums when needed to produce all the sounds from the CD. Nowadays he is recognized being the best Reggae Drummer in France.
Alpha Blondy needed a Drummer urgently in 2003 for only one concert. They got in touch with Richacha. He did not really know what Richacha was capable of doing. At the end of the first concert, Alpha said to him: ”Based on what I saw and heard during the concert, you cannot be a substitute...I’ll keep you!”. He toured with the band for three years and played the album “Jah Victory” in 2007 along with Sly Dunbar (Drummer from Jamaica). In 2007, the Wailers took him again for a European tour. Richacha is on another level. I don’t see a Drummer from Congo who realized what Richacha has realized as a Drummer. It's not easy to go for another style of music, be one of the best and earn the respect from big artists.
I also like Manu Katche from France. That guy is amazing.
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Indeed, Richacha is one of the greatest but most people have forgotten about his Viva roots because his focus is now reggae however he remains versatile and one of the best just like Awilo is still one of the best, I have a dvd of Awilo in a double concert somewhere in Europe and in the USA, it's not an old concert, Awilo played drums on a couple of songs.
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For the Wenge generation, I have respect for Titina because he did not copy everything older Drummers have done....he is also versatile. But all the Wenge Drummers who came after Titina, do everything like him (Esthétique from QL is also among them). They are not creative; none of them impresses me. If Titina still plays drums, please tell him to stop wasting time with Congolese Singers. They have no respect for musicians. I would be happy to see him in a career elsewhere like Richacha.
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For the Wenge generation, I have respect for Titina because he did not copy everything older Drummers have done....he is also versatile. But all the Wenge Drummers who came after Titina, do everything like him (Esthétique from QL is also among them). They are not creative; none of them impresses me. If Titina still plays drums, please tell him to stop wasting time with Congolese Singers. They have no respect for musicians. I would be happy to see him in a career elsewhere like Richacha.
True. Titina has his own band now and does more singing than drumming not forgetting session work with other musicians, I think he's featured on the upcoming album by Wenge BCBG youngster Abraham Mignon.
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Sometimes I keep forgetting Awilo was a drummer ;D ;D just look at his face you really think he looks like a drummer lol but yes what he did in Japan with 1986 Viva was excellent, Djodjo b I understand what you mean with the wenge generation but check out Kakol how quite different to titina, he has much more of drum rolling style
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Sometimes I keep forgetting Awilo was a drummer ;D ;D just look at his face you really think he looks like a drummer lol but yes what he did in Japan with 1986 Viva was excellent, Djodjo b I understand what you mean with the wenge generation but check out Kakol how quite different to titina, he has much more of drum rolling style
Yeah, Titina as well, when he sings you wouldn't tell he's a drummer. ;D ;D
Newside, why are you mentioning Papy Kakol here, ;D ;D there's a criteria that has been set, Kakol knows his snare drum and can hit it like no mans business when it's sebene style but I guess he needs lessons from Extra Musica's Ramatoulaye a more versatile drummer and even more powerful on the snare drum.
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For the Wenge generation, I have respect for Titina because he did not copy everything older Drummers have done....he is also versatile. But all the Wenge Drummers who came after Titina, do everything like him (Esthétique from QL is also among them). They are not creative; none of them impresses me. If Titina still plays drums, please tell him to stop wasting time with Congolese Singers. They have no respect for musicians. I would be happy to see him in a career elsewhere like Richacha.
True. Titina has his own band now and does more singing than drumming not forgetting session work with other musicians, I think he's featured on the upcoming album by Wenge BCBG youngster Abraham Mignon.
This is good. He should keep working and think about his own career. I hope he is registered to booking agencies based in Paris.
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Sometimes I keep forgetting Awilo was a drummer ;D ;D just look at his face you really think he looks like a drummer lol
You're funny ;D ;D ;D. Since you said that, I see him as a comedian now.
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Have you noticed that most of the Drummers from Congo are from the Equateur province?
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Off course Sly Kakol for me is not in the list with the top dogs but I still must mention his drumming style his different especially with snare it this moment apart from the couple decale drumming his drumming style is dominant and different compared to Titina and the older legends that's I'm mentioning him but yes Kakol for me is two-dimensional good but not a great yet maybe in the future
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Have you noticed that most of the Drummers from Congo are from the Equateur province?
indeed,good remark,and they sometimes insert some mungala/mongo folk beat in their play
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Richacha 1900 to 2014? Djodjob, rectify. Sly thanks for reminding me, champion esthetic should go on the list with awilo and ramatoulai of EM. Now you forgot segiun?
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Papy Kakol belongs on the list of one of Africa's all time best drummers.
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:D :D :D :D emo i think you are actually a big seguin fan in disguise, loooooooooooool
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Off course Sly Kakol for me is not in the list with the top dogs but I still must mention his drumming style his different especially with snare it this moment apart from the couple decale drumming his drumming style is dominant and different compared to Titina and the older legends that's I'm mentioning him but yes Kakol for me is two-dimensional good but not a great yet maybe in the future
Ok to be honest, he's made a mark on Congolese music because of his power on the snare drum, unlike most drummers he's consistent on the snare drum and when he plays on a song you definitely know it's him playing even without seeing a video.
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Richacha 1900 to 2014? Djodjob, rectify.
;D ;D ;D There is nothing to rectify Man. Richacha performed with the top Artists in Congolese Music, performed with the top Artists in Reggae, performed with the top Artists in French Rap, performed with the top Artists in Dancehall, etc. Please name only one Congolese Drummer from 1800 to 2014 who achieved this.
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Sometimes I keep forgetting Awilo was a drummer ;D ;D just look at his face you really think he looks like a drummer lol
You're funny ;D ;D ;D. Since you said that, I see him as a comedian now.
He kind of looks like Japonais are they from the same province?
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definitely champion esthetique
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Sometimes I keep forgetting Awilo was a drummer ;D ;D just look at his face you really think he looks like a drummer lol
You're funny ;D ;D ;D. Since you said that, I see him as a comedian now.
He kind of looks like Japonais are they from the same province?
no,japonais is from bandundu and awilo from equateur
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Sometimes I keep forgetting Awilo was a drummer ;D ;D just look at his face you really think he looks like a drummer lol
You're funny ;D ;D ;D. Since you said that, I see him as a comedian now.
He kind of looks like Japonais are they from the same province?
no,japonais is from bandundu and awilo from equateur
Ok thanks.
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Off course Sly Kakol for me is not in the list with the top dogs but I still must mention his drumming style his different especially with snare it this moment apart from the couple decale drumming his drumming style is dominant and different compared to Titina and the older legends that's I'm mentioning him but yes Kakol for me is two-dimensional good but not a great yet maybe in the future
Ok to be honest, he's made a mark on Congolese music because of his power on the snare drum, unlike most drummers he's consistent on the snare drum and when he plays on a song you definitely know it's him playing even without seeing a video.
This is the same thing I thought. There are only two drummers that I can listen to a track and bet it is them...Kakol and Ramatoulaye. Both of them would be pretty high on the list.
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No one is talking about Virus and Guangzhou!
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This is the same thing I thought. There are only two drummers that I can listen to a track and bet it is them...Kakol and Ramatoulaye. Both of them would be pretty high on the list.
Yes, both have a killer punch which most drummers lack,that consistent killer punch!
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Born to be a Drummer. Amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVbt5W-DNc
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...Two of my Fav outside DRC...
http://youtu.be/AzQhwCpHiKY?list=UUdRWANZeifT8ECRSmD8C3XA
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Born to be a Drummer. Amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVbt5W-DNc
He needs to give some ''extra'' lessons to Sebondo ya Machine Papy Kakol who just concentrates on the snare drum!! ;D ;D ;D
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Meridjo and Titina!!
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Richacha 1900 to 2014? Djodjob, rectify.
;D ;D ;D There is nothing to rectify Man. Richacha performed with the top Artists in Congolese Music, performed with the top Artists in Reggae, performed with the top Artists in French Rap, performed with the top Artists in Dancehall, etc. Please name only one Congolese Drummer from 1800 to 2014 who achieved this.
Excellent analysis Djodjo B. Just amazed how one Seskain Molenga does not get a mention in such a topic :o ??? :(
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Awilo Longomba is a drummer???
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Richacha 1900 to 2014? Djodjob, rectify.
;D ;D ;D There is nothing to rectify Man. Richacha performed with the top Artists in Congolese Music, performed with the top Artists in Reggae, performed with the top Artists in French Rap, performed with the top Artists in Dancehall, etc. Please name only one Congolese Drummer from 1800 to 2014 who achieved this.
Excellent analysis Djodjo B. Just amazed how one Seskain Molenga does not get a mention in such a topic :o ??? :(
I think it’s due to the fact that Seskain Molenga is from the first generation (if I can call it like that) of Drummers from Modern Congolese Rumba/Soukous.
There are also guys like Boffi Banengola (Mpongo Love, Abeti Masikini, Papa Wemba’s MOLOKAI, etc.) and Komba Bellow (Mpongo Love, Abeti Masikini, Lokwa Kanza, etc.). Young people born in the eighties do not know these Guys. It's like me, I've read some news names I never heard before.
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How can I forget Komba lol, he is a really good drummer and he can play any style even modern day
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Awilo Longomba is a drummer???
Was, yes. he was a drummer for Viva la Musica way back in '86, and for his group Nouvelle Generation, in the early '90s. After that, he changed drumming for singing (don't they?)
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Awilo Longomba is a drummer???
Was, yes. he was a drummer for Viva la Musica way back in '86, and for his group Nouvelle Generation, in the early '90s. After that, he changed drumming for singing (don't they?)
He is now singing but still plays drums. He is more a Drummer than a Singer even though he is well known as a Singer.
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Check this out! Richacha on Drums (with Barrington Levy)...I love the vibes from 4 min 45" to 9 min 15" (Rolls, speed and breaks).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt8ehyBOS3Y