Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on November 14, 2014, 18:19
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They are not clean themselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SurGnOtKhWM
They claim they stopped congolese musicians from playing in Europe because of too much nonsensical adult stuff in the music and singing about politicians but they used to do the same too.
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The main reason is because they sang for and support a CRIMINAL (MURDERING CONGOLESE WITH THE HELP OF HIS RWANDAN BROTHERS IN THE EAST OF CONGO, KILLING THOSE WHO SAY THE THRUTH ABOUT HIS ORIGINS, ETC.) and AN IMPOSTOR (FAKE NAME, FAKE DIPLOMAS, FAKE CITIZENSHIP, FAKE MOTHER, FAKE FATHER, FAKE CV, FAKE ELECTIONS' RESULTS, ETC.).
The day I saw a video in which Boketshu was singing during mobutu's birthday party, I commented by saying: "How can you say you are against kanambe and sing to praise mobutu?". mobutu was a CRIMINAL like kanambe and did NOTHING for that country; I bless the day he passed away!!! Those who say that Congolese were united, had a better life and had PEACE while mobutu was president, are just dreamers. If mobutu was so good, why did many Congolese start leaving the country around 1980? The spectacular downfall of the Congolese economy showed how mobutu was one of the most STUPID HUMAN BEING. Here is a reminder of a couple of things that happened during his presidency: "Closing down Universities, Banks bankrupt, Soldiers, Teachers and Public Servants not being paid for months, etc". He is spiritually a good mentor for kanambe.
If one or two or many combattants make mistakes or do stupid things, does that mean we have to start supporting kanambe? Why is it normal for Congolese to make someone a PRESIDENT FOR THIRTEEN YEARS while they never knew where he came from and still know NOTHING about him because every thing about him is FAKE
Those musicians sang for him and praise him like a God and Savior...but they are the first to complain about not having good studios, their rights not being respected, etc. If that Country was going well, they didn't even need to travel overseas to become millionaires.
ONLY COMBATTANTS DO THIS FOR THEIR COUNTRY...NO MUSICIANS DARE!. I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT THEM. They could have stayed home, sleep, watch TV or go get some beer...this is why I support them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx_C-u-E0wI&list=UUnbb6SNcoo9N160y4KlAzfg
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I hope you know that they are now considered as terrorists in Europe. You can praise them all you want the fact remains they will not change Congo in any way, these are just asylum seekers trying to consolidate their immigration cases by being seen to be active in politics abroad, insulting kabila and other political figures on camera so that it is against their human rights to be deported back to Congo as they will be in danger. if they want to fight for their country like those in Egypt, Tunisia, and other places,let them go home and fight kabila not on foreign soil after eating Macdonalds and drinking Kronenburg lager then they grab their cameras to go and cause trouble, those things they do don't affect Kabila or congo.
I guess you support this animal behaviour by these terrorists eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4E1tXS4Y3A
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The main reason is because they sang for and support a CRIMINAL (MURDERING CONGOLESE WITH THE HELP OF HIS RWANDAN BROTHERS IN THE EAST OF CONGO, KILLING THOSE WHO SAY THE THRUTH ABOUT HIS ORIGINS, ETC.) and AN IMPOSTOR (FAKE NAME, FAKE DIPLOMAS, FAKE CITIZENSHIP, FAKE MOTHER, FAKE FATHER, FAKE CV, FAKE ELECTIONS' RESULTS, ETC.)............................
DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
WHAT DOES IT HAS TO DO WITH WERRASON AND CO.?
Do you kill your parent after you find out that she was a hooker and thats the way she brought you in world?
WHO VOTES FOR THE PRESIDENT - Werra and Mpiana alone?
Ok, am I am singing VOTE for SLY to be the Next Congo President? Will you Vote for him?
WHY DON'T THEY SPEND THEIR ENERGY AND TIME CONVINCING PEOPLE IN CONGO (The Locals) to Vote for someone else?
THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE PEOPLE'S MIND SET AND NOT ATTACKING THE FEW WHO ARE IN BUSINESS.
Even me I will sing for anyone who pays me handsomely, but wont vote for Any - That's me and Koffi, Wazekwa, T Mwana have their own decisions.
WAKE UP - YOU CAN POINT A GUN AT ME FOR HOURS BUT IT WONT SHOOT UNTIL YOU TRIGGER IT.
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I hope you know that they are now considered as terrorists in Europe. You can praise them all you want the fact remains they will not change Congo in any way, these are just asylum seekers trying to consolidate their immigration cases by being seen to be active in politics abroad, ....................................... I guess you support this animal behaviour by these terrorists eh?
I think when he gets sick, the medicine is taken by someone else who is not ill and he gets cured.
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I only like the combattants when they are against Kabila but not when they block musicians from playing in Europe. Like Sly said if they really want to free Congo they should do what the north Aficans did and actually fight for freedom in the actual country they want freedom in and not abroad where they won't be attacked by that countries government. Beyoncé sang at both of President Obamas inauguration but you don't see Republicans or other political parties making videos saying that they will bet her up and all of that BS and preventing people attending her concerts and people buying her albums.
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I hope you know that they are now considered as terrorists in Europe. You can praise them all you want the fact remains they will not change Congo in any way, these are just asylum seekers trying to consolidate their immigration cases by being seen to be active in politics abroad, insulting kabila and other political figures on camera so that it is against their human rights to be deported back to Congo as they will be in danger. if they want to fight for their country like those in Egypt, Tunisia, and other places,let them go home and fight kabila not on foreign soil after eating Macdonalds and drinking Kronenburg lager then they grab their cameras to go and cause trouble, those things they do don't affect Kabila or congo.
I guess you support this animal behaviour by these terrorists eh?
I support any body who does anything against kanambe and his followers. Being considered as terrorists, killers or criminals by REAL CRIMINALS does not bother me at all. I also LOVE music like you...otherwise I wouldn't be here. But I will always choose and be on the Combattants' side when it comes to what's happening in my Country; I am proud of my choice. Are you against them only because they are stopping music? Please answer.
Without a weapon...only with words, the Combattants made Congolese music disappear in Europe. This has to make our Musicians think before doing anything. Weather they (Musicians) like it or not, they have to listen to those who by their CDs, attend their concerts and promote them for free.
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I only like the combattants when they are against Kabila but not when they block musicians from playing in Europe. Like Sly sai if they really want to free Congo they should do what the a north Aficans did and actually fight for freedom in the actual country they want freedom in and not abroad where they won't be attacked by that countries government. Beyoncé sang at both of President Obamas inauguration but you don't see Republicans or other political parties making videos saying that they will bet her up and all of that BS and preventing people attending her concerts and people buying her albums.
Brother (or Sister), if you are from Congo, why are you talking as if that Country's future is not your problem? What surprises me is when I hear or read people say: "if they want this, they should go to Congo", etc. Haven't you ever seen Combattants in Kinshasa? Do you think that movement start in 2011 in Europe? Who do you think die during protests? Kanambe's Cousins?
Please...please...please, don't compare a democratic Country like the USA and a JUNGLE LIKE DRC (DICTACTORAL REPUBLIC OF CONGO). Was Obama supporting Rebels from Canada to kill Americans? Was he financing criminals from Mexico to kill Americans? I am surprised by your way of thinking.
You know what? A lot of people do not miss those stupid concerts. We have guys like Lokwa Kanza who performs EVERY WHERE without being bothered. If you want to hear some noise, there are many bands based in Paris (from Cote d'ivoire) making noisy music similar to some bands from Congo.
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I guess you support this animal behaviour by these terrorists eh?
If they are terrorits, who is kanambe? Please answer.
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Lol I'm a brother, why does Lokua Kanza get to play but Fally and Ferre can't??
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I guess you support this animal behaviour by these terrorists eh?
If they are terrorits, who is kanambe? Please answer.
I don't know who Kanambe is but i know it is a nickname given to the President of DRC Mr Joseph Kabila. Yes,Kabila like most other political leaders around the world is ALLEGED to have committed crimes against humanity in the process of his leadership in the army and as President but those are just mere allegations, i cannot label him a terrorist because he is a responsible leader focused on developing his country and i can cite for you what he has done for Congo,it's all well documents so if a few soldiers of his are accused of war crimes there's no proof that he directly ordered them to do the bad things they did.
Yes like most political leaders he's also alleged to have ordered the detention and killing of certain people who oppose his leadership, again those are mere allegations which are hard to prove so until he's called at the Hague we cannot be certain that he committed those crimes so for now their is no justification to call him a terrorist, it's the so called combattants who are terrorists as can be proved by the number of crimes they've committed in Europe ,South Africa etc through their acts of terror all in their quests to ensure that top congolese musicians do not succeed in having their concerts.
Politicians come and go, nothing happens to them, why only target innocent musicians just trying to earn a living. Why target and almost kill an innocent security guard simply hired by a producer as part of JB Mpiana's security team at a concert venue, what did the guy do apart from trying to earn a living as a security guard,he's not even congolese,not related to JB or the Producer, it's shameful indeed and am shocked that you can support such a terrorist group especially that you sound intelligent in our discussions on the forum. Forgive me but i don't want to judge you so maybe we just quit on this debate, let's stick to music.
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I wish this thread was deleted.
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I guess you support this animal behaviour by these terrorists eh?
If they are terrorits, who is kanambe? Please answer.
I don't know who Kanambe is but i know it is a nickname given to the President of DRC Mr Joseph Kabila. Yes,Kabila like most other political leaders around the world is ALLEGED to have committed crimes against humanity in the process of his leadership in the army and as President but those are just mere allegations, i cannot label him a terrorist because he is a responsible leader focused on developing his country and i can cite for you what he has done for Congo,it's all well documents so if a few soldiers of his are accused of war crimes there's no proof that he directly ordered them to do the bad things they did.
Yes like most political leaders he's also alleged to have ordered the detention and killing of certain people who oppose his leadership, again those are mere allegations which are hard to prove so until he's called at the Hague we cannot be certain that he committed those crimes so for now their is no justification to call him a terrorist, it's the so called combattants who are terrorists as can be proved by the number of crimes they've committed in Europe ,South Africa etc through their acts of terror all in their quests to ensure that top congolese musicians do not succeed in having their concerts.
Politicians come and go, nothing happens to them, why only target innocent musicians just trying to earn a living. Why target and almost kill an innocent security guard simply hired by a producer as part of JB Mpiana's security team at a concert venue, what did the guy do apart from trying to earn a living as a security guard,he's not even congolese,not related to JB or the Producer, it's shameful indeed and am shocked that you can support such a terrorist group especially that you sound intelligent in our discussions on the forum. Forgive me but i don't want to judge you so maybe we just quit on this debate, let's stick to music.
Those guys have never killed anyone...why label them as terrorists? They are just protesting against those who prevent the DRC to develop, that's it. As I said in my previous messages, I support and will always support anybody who stands up and speaks up for the voiceless. Music did not make and will not make poverty disappear in Congo. I really don’t mind being labelled as an ANTI-KANAMBE (I’m proud of that) or a Combattant (even though I do not do what they do). I hate lying about how I feel about something...this being said, I will always hate those who bring shame to that Country. I was born in Congo, went to elementary and high school there, and left. I know how good that country was and know how bad it is now :'( :'( :'(. People born 20 or even 30 years ago cannot understand how I feel; especially if the person has a link to kanambe, his followers and enjoy the wealth while others are suffering...or if music represents everything for him/her.
Let’s stick to music if you want but you are the one who posted this, so you have to expect reactions as we are all different. Some will please you but other won’t...it’s NORMAL. 8) 8) 8)
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I wish this thread was deleted.
Why,the is informative plus there's no harm in building?
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Those guys have never killed anyone...why label them as terrorists? They are just protesting against those who prevent the DRC to develop, that's it. As I said in my previous messages, I support and will always support anybody who stands up and speaks up for the voiceless. Music did not make and will not make poverty disappear in Congo. I really don’t mind being labelled as an ANTI-KANAMBE (I’m proud of that) or a Combattant (even though I do not do what they do). I hate lying about how I feel about something...this being said, I will always hate those who bring shame to that Country. I was born in Congo, went to elementary and high school there, and left. I know how good that country was and know how bad it is now :'( :'( :'(. People born 20 or even 30 years ago cannot understand how I feel; especially if the person has a link to kanambe, his followers and enjoy the wealth while others are suffering...or if music represents everything for him/her.
Let’s stick to music if you want but you are the one who posted this, so you have to expect reactions as we are all different. Some will please you but other won’t...it’s NORMAL. 8) 8) 8)
yes i started the topic and we can carry on except that i have somehow had a judgement on you and your reasoning so my opinion on you will be hard to change.
A terrorist is someone who uses acts of violence or terror in order to advance their political agenda and this is exactly what the so called combattants have been doing for the last 5 or 6 years, beating up innocent musicians, fans and those who want to work with them all in the name of trying to get Kabila to resign which is practically impossible because there is no african leader who can resign on moral grounds,you and I know that very well.
Can you answer a few questions:
Who are the leaders of the so called Combattants, what are their objectives and how do they plan to meet their objectives,is it not possible for them to fly to congo and flight kabila there other than fighting in a foreign nation?
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