Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on December 12, 2014, 21:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brG1xqiLZYY
Not impressed with Charly's solo, it also seems this generique is all by the small ataluku Kirikou as he's dominated.......probably did the animation he created for Maison Mere's Ingeta.
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All his cri are from when he was with ferre.
Good générique but not great ,but i relly waiting for L'eau est là.
I guees since kunzardo is blacklisted Ferre pass Derangement first, but Derangement look more like a second générique , that why pepole are not crazy about it. But it's still good for make me dance.
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Yes indeed, most of the animation he created whilst he was with Ferre but Ferre never paid attention so Kirikou went and did them at Maison Mere so it seems he's been allowed to reproduce them with the hope that someone in Maison Mere has actually recorded the same animation left by Kirikou.
It's an average generique, too simple and without complicated solo guitar but a bit boring as the animation is weak and it's the same stuff from start to finish(no changement de frequence).
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Congolese people and foreigners who like Congolese music take fanaticism too an extreme " Nazo zela Ingeta", "moi J'attend fleche ingeta" Mascara ebeti generique oyo" blah blah blah.
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@Sly
I think you're a little hard , but i completly understand your point.
Just have to wait for Hadji solo
@Jdog
Like you said they are fanatic so of course you gonna see some bashing..Hater gonna hate no matter what Ferre release.
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Espoir Mvila is a really good director, Ya Mado did a good job with the choreography, Nicolas and Awulu and Mabuma bass did their work and the animators were pretty good. Very decent sebene, Hadji Solo should of played the whole thing not to say Charly Solo is bad but he didn't really excite me expect for the beginning.
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heheheheeeee, nothing here...... iTS BETTER HE STICKS WITH RUMBAs.
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I have said it before, Ferre is a disappointment. His generics do not inspire at all. They start and end the same and all sound like boitnior. If this song was sex, the lady would be cleaning her ears and doing her hair while the man is on top.
Him and JB are a letdown in todays Congolese music.
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I have said it before, Ferre is a disappointment. His generics do not inspire at all. They start and end the same and all sound like boitnior. If this song was sex, the lady would be cleaning her ears and doing her hair while the man is on top.
Him and JB are a letdown in todays Congolese music.
;D ;D ;D
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Ferre is simply the best for me...say all you can about him- I love the dude!
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Just have to wait for Hadji solo
Hadji Solo played on the other 2 generiques which already out too and he proved once again that he's Le Meillure soliste, Charly has to be demoted! ;D
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Ferre is simply the best for me...say all you can about him- I love the dude!
Don't get me wrong, it's a good generique but after all the hype am disappointed that this and the other generiques on the album don't seem to be at the level i expected, it is okay that the generiques are danceable without disturbing the fun from start to finish but the sparkle is missing.
If you listen to his first album Sens Interdit, that generique was well arranged ,his first primus single Lubukulukumu was another classic generique but everything from Qui derriere toi to all this is blank but okay to dance to.
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Ferre is simply the best for me...say all you can about him- I love the dude!
.... primus single Lubukulukumu.
This one yes. It will probably be his only best.
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This one yes. It will probably be his only best.
You can only say it will probably be his only best if he's dying, they say a musician never actually ''finishes'' he's capable of correcting things because what he's lacking is good atalukus who take control of generiques like the combination of Musamaria, Muana Congo and Sabalo did.
Sens Interdit though with a faint guitar by Japonais was well arranged too but obviously we have different tastes.
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Sly, I love lubulukulukumu too much. Thats why i said what i said. And especially seeing the trend in his generics. Usually a Congolese artist does very well in the first three or four albums of their career.
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Lubukulukumu 10/10 as I said Ferre made a monumental mistake letting Christian Solo go in an easy way so said even bassists Giscard they were very good and again after all the hype I was expecting something explosive but no, let me just live off his old concerts sebene's
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just saw marchouse giving news of their maxi single next to pie roger of maison mere,honestly i was afraid he'd hit hard like he does most of the time but i think even if he threw little attacks he controlled himself well :D :D
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Lubukulukumu 10/10 as I said Ferre made a monumental mistake letting Christian Solo go in an easy way so said even bassists Giscard they were very good and again after all the hype I was expecting something explosive but no, let me just live off his old concerts sebene's
It's not because of Christian Solo that Ferre's generiques are poor, instrumentalists including all guitarists and drummer play according to the animation of the atalukus, it is the atalukus who are shit in Ferre's band, he needs to reorganise his band soon. Hadji Solo is the best soloist and Christian Solo is small to him, Hadji has more experience and proved his worth before joining Ferre but for Christian Solo Lubukulukumu was his only work with Ferre and unfortunately that was the only CD Ferre did at Ndiaye Studio under JP Kys so the sound is top class.
If i were Ferre i would use more of Kunzardo and the new falsetto ataluku Goldberg who sounds like Kerozene as Ruth Nzele, Kirikou and the other two new atalukus are not up to scratch. Ruth and Kirikou are ok but should have less time, the dreadlocked guy Comme Au Lion is a passenger just like i predicted, he's just another bad copycat of Bercy Muana like the other chap from Belgian who recently auditioned at Maison Mere and has now been rejected after being given a second chance so Ferre should sideline that Comme Au Lion till he comes up with his own style.
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lol comme un lion is a less talented version of brandon avatar,the type of atalaku who adapts to whoever he has to replace
brandon in cultura was trying to sound like bercy then in maison mere like brigade ,same for comme un lion who in his maison mere days was more of a brigade/celeo style
that aside sly,bcbg's now former atalaku police has recovered from his drugs problem and wants to join ferre's group and is even already going on tv and singing animations in praise of ferre
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lol comme un lion is a less talented version of brandon avatar,the type of atalaku who adapts to whoever he has to replace
brandon in cultura was trying to sound like bercy then in maison mere like brigade ,same for comme un lion who in his maison mere days was more of a brigade/celeo style
that aside sly,bcbg's now former atalaku police has recovered from his drugs problem and wants to join ferre's group and is even already going on tv and singing animations in praise of ferre
Indeed. At least Brandon proved that he's not just a copy of his ''stepdad'' but can stand on his own as his work on his single and on Robinho Mundibu's generique is good.
I didn't know Police had become a mess and was out of BCBG, are there any new videos of him?
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lol comme un lion is a less talented version of brandon avatar,the type of atalaku who adapts to whoever he has to replace
brandon in cultura was trying to sound like bercy then in maison mere like brigade ,same for comme un lion who in his maison mere days was more of a brigade/celeo style
that aside sly,bcbg's now former atalaku police has recovered from his drugs problem and wants to join ferre's group and is even already going on tv and singing animations in praise of ferre
comme un lion was once in maison mere?....interesting, any video?
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Lubukulukumu 10/10 as I said Ferre made a monumental mistake letting Christian Solo go in an easy way so said even bassists Giscard they were very good and again after all the hype I was expecting something explosive but no, let me just live off his old concerts sebene's
It's not because of Christian Solo that Ferre's generiques are poor, instrumentalists including all guitarists and drummer play according to the animation of the atalukus, it is the atalukus who are shit in Ferre's band, he needs to reorganise his band soon. Hadji Solo is the best soloist and Christian Solo is small to him, Hadji has more experience and proved his worth before joining Ferre but for Christian Solo Lubukulukumu was his only work with Ferre and unfortunately that was the only CD Ferre did at Ndiaye Studio under JP Kys so the sound is top class.
If i were Ferre i would use more of Kunzardo and the new falsetto ataluku Goldberg who sounds like Kerozene as Ruth Nzele, Kirikou and the other two new atalukus are not up to scratch. Ruth and Kirikou are ok but should have less time, the dreadlocked guy Comme Au Lion is a passenger just like i predicted, he's just another bad copycat of Bercy Muana like the other chap from Belgian who recently auditioned at Maison Mere and has now been rejected after being given a second chance so Ferre should sideline that Comme Au Lion till he comes up with his own style.
Fair enough but either I'm not convinced as you said qui est derriere toi things have been going concerning sebene's but Christian is small compared to Hadji is too harsh yes JP Kys made a difference but most partitions were made pre-recording sessions so he proves his worth in my opinion now coming to animators I can't not argue with you are correct.
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Fair enough but either I'm not convinced as you said qui est derriere toi things have been going concerning sebene's but Christian is small compared to Hadji is too harsh yes JP Kys made a difference but most partitions were made pre-recording sessions so he proves his worth in my opinion now coming to animators I can't not argue with you are correct.
Am only saying the truth, Hadji is bigger than Christian and Charly Solo whose only known experience so far is with Ferre but at least Christian did better than Charly on his only work so far (Lubukulukumu) as Charly has failed to prove that he's creative on 3 albums and a maxi single,he keeps repeating the same guitar partitions otherwise he's a good soloist and plays the notes very well. Hadji played on 2 of the 3 Generiques on the new album and his force can be felt, Charly played on one generique and his guitar is hardly audible, the generique was rushed and it's the one with the three atalukus recorded whilst Kunzardo was on suspension and later in hospital within the last few months. Charly Solo was completely off the picture till this very last minute generique so Ferre knows Hadji is the man.
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comme un lion was once in maison mere?....interesting, any video?
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i will try to find,but i know he was in maison mere two times,the first one he was in that big crops of atalakus including also bercy who were rejected/neglected then by aimelia around sous sol days who did tests in absence of werra if i recall well then he came for a second test around the time musamaria joined the group,he mainly stayed in second team with deodorant and co
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lol comme un lion is a less talented version of brandon avatar,the type of atalaku who adapts to whoever he has to replace
brandon in cultura was trying to sound like bercy then in maison mere like brigade ,same for comme un lion who in his maison mere
I didn't know Police had become a mess and was out of BCBG, are there any new videos of him?
yes he spent almost one year of treatment in lubumbashi then like he said in this interview left when he realised at his return (without naming him) that bcbg was not promoting a lot fusée
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7nVU1maotc
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You guys cant someone bewitch genta? You mean even police left bcbg? Shit!!!....bcbg is a curse.
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You guys cant someone bewitch genta? You mean even police left bcbg? Shit!!!....bcbg is a curse.
lol he left because he knew with fusée being promoted he will have to fight back for his role
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Comme Au Lion is not a passenger he actually has his own animation. Besides Genta, the rest of the animators are a waste of space in Bcbg. Ruth Nzele is good and Goldberg sounds nothing like Bebe Kerozene.
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yes he spent almost one year of treatment in lubumbashi then like he said in this interview left when he realised at his return (without naming him) that bcbg was not promoting a lot fusée
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7nVU1maotc
Ah, shame, he was quite promising and fooled many people, everyone thought Bill Clinton Kalondji had featured on JB's primus generique at the time. ;D ;D
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Comme Au Lion is not a passenger he actually has his own animation. Besides Genta, the rest of the animators are a waste of space in Bcbg. Ruth Nzele is good and Goldberg sounds nothing like Bebe Kerozene.
Bro, I have ears, i was patiently waiting for the generiques to judge Comme Au Lion. I don't know if you're related to him however I don't care if you are, he's shit!!!
I don't know if you know Goldberg, he was with Maison Mere then Quartier Latin and once again I say I have got ears, he sounds like Kerozene unless you just don't know who he is.
In case you don't know him,watch him here and listen
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19gaz_werrason-golberg_music
You've mentioned BCBG, it seems you're now comparing, just because I have written off Comme au Lion ,you think i'll get malaria or ebola if you say BCBG's atalukus are shit? I like JB Mpiana and BCBG but I am not part of them so I don't know why you're comparing.
I have seen the feedback on Ferre's new songs on facebook and youtube, the generiques are average and people are laughing saying he fooled himself by thinking he can disturb Werra's Ingeta with the generiques he's released on Derangement. Apart from the song Vieux Jaloux the whole album seems to be average whilst the extracts of Werra's Ingeta have made an impact already due to the sheer number of songs and contribution of all the individual singers.
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haha yeah i remember that debate,but he could have been patient a bit,fusee spent 9 years in the shadow of other guys and it was normal that he gets his chance ,he'd have got his chance if he returned to the group rehearsals,i hope for him he wont do like jefferson lol
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haha yeah i remember that debate,but he could have been patient a bit,fusee spent 9 years in the shadow of other guys and it was normal that he gets his chance ,he'd have got his chance if he returned to the group rehearsals,i hope for him he wont do like jefferson lol
Fusée has been waiting for 9 years!! damn. ;D ;D
I think one day i'll go to Kin and set up my band there, I need to show these big bands what music is about, there are too many talented guys that are not utilised.
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Sly, I've heard Goldberg before and he is just another falsetto animator and he sounds nothing like Kerozene. I heard him on Derangement and the vido you posted. Your opinion on Comme Au Lion is just your opinion. Ferre's generiques have gotten very good responses and the hate is just coming from Werra's fans.
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wow...what's with all these hate and negativity towards Ferre and his musicians....everytime, is this because he's better than the whole maison mere musicians combined and that he makes better music....dont jealous the guy, just appreciate the living legend
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wow...what's with all these hate and negativity towards Ferre and his musicians....everytime, is this because he's better than the whole maison mere musicians combined and that he makes better music....dont jealous the guy, just appreciate the living legend
Remember what Ruth Nzele said Ingatitude na mokili eza nde mabe.
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...After all the noise this can't even compete with Other Maison Mere students Hercules and Fab...
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...After all the noise this can't even compete with Other Maison Mere students Hercules and Fab...
most of you talk pure rubbish....what so good about Brigade and Fab generique, let me guess oh ya mado....people acting like they never seen booty shaking or the ya mado call before ehhh
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...After all the noise this can't even compete with Other Maison Mere students Hercules and Fab...
most of you talk pure rubbish....what so good about Brigade and Fab generique, let me guess oh ya mado....people acting like they never seen booty shaking or the ya mado call before ehhh
...Vieux Jaloux actually fits you noise makers... ;D ;D ;D
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...After all the noise this can't even compete with Other Maison Mere students Hercules and Fab...
most of you talk pure rubbish....what so good about Brigade and Fab generique, let me guess oh ya mado....people acting like they never seen booty shaking or the ya mado call before ehhh
I completely agree mascara is good générique but to much hype , like for Ferre with Derangement too much hype even if i think is a good maxi single. For Brigade everybody knew he was a great animateur.
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Jvalentino and Jdog, just for the record, am not a fan of Wenge Maison Mere but an objective and honest fan of Ferre and JB Mpiana who is not afraid to tell the truth about what they release. Unlike what some fellas believe,i enjoy a majority of Wenge Maison Mére's music especially the old albums up to Temps Present though am not a fan of Werra himself as i consider him to be a mediocre singer but for years he's arguably been Congo's best entertainer and he's successfully pushed young musicians to do the best for him and i give him maximum respect for that. Not to say he's released an excellent album but i have seen the extracts and am impressed so far but hopefully the album is as good as the extracts have made me believe because even Ferre's extracts sounded promising only to be disappointed when he started releasing the full songs one by one and just to reiterate too ,Ferre's generiques are okay,very danceable but they lack that power that would force people off their seats and the main mistake was that the generiques start the same and end the same,same tempo and rhythm with little variation and that's the boring bit,this is the fault of the atalukus who could not direct the flow of the music well by adding impressive animation which instrumentalists have to work around in harmony.
On Fabregas, the whole album is excellent, the animation is not too powerful but it's interesting and enticing that's why people are flocking to record themselves dancing to the song Ya Mado, that's the whole purpose of a generique, there must be a message in the animation,in Ferre only Kunzardo knows how best to tell a story in animation, Ruth Nzele is coming up well but unfortunately overstretching her voice but i understand, she's a woman and sounds a bit loud with a screechy voice at times.
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DJ SLY I get your point but most people here just hate on the guy even when he produces good songs....The hate is ridiculous and pathetic...Some people don't even have a reason to hate but just follow the bandwagon of hate Ferre
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DJ SLY I get your point but most people here just hate on the guy even when he produces good songs....The hate is ridiculous and pathetic...Some people don't even have a reason to hate but just follow the bandwagon of hate Ferre
Yeah i know what you mean. It's just one of them things, we just have to live with it. ;D
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I am an objective fan of Maison Mere and all its graduates, hate and name calling does not run in my blood; I have and will always support good muzik. Those that have grown with us in this cyber world know the laughs I used to draw whenever I backed these current hit makers...save the last laugh for Arc ;D ;)
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AVERAGE!!!! Im been suffering for severe insomnia recently but alas Ferre has cured it with amazing LULLABY!!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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okay this single just proved that charly needs to leaave i was not impressed by this generique he always plays the same partition hadji should have done all generiques and ferre needs to bring back kunzardo !