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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 04, 2015, 15:23

Title: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 04, 2015, 15:23
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Am sure some of you have been looking forward to hearing my opinion and finally i have had chance to listen to the two albums constantly for a week. I will not go into too much detail but go straight to the point.

Ferre Gola has been shown who the real daddy is, he's been bruised big time and his camp has been totally quiet ever since Werrason released his album.
Ferre's maxi single Dérangement is okay  but monotonous, the generiques are poorly arranged and sound the same and the bad recording has not helped much whilst on the other hand, Werrason used a different strategy and actually went back to the original formula he started with over 10 years ago, he has a variety of styles on his album Fléche Ingeta and used different singers. The only negative is that he sang on each and every song of his musicians, some parts he didn't sing too well if you compare to the way his singers sang them when they were giving us extracts in interviews but some he did very well.

I like the fact that Werrason gave each ataluku their own song to lead however on the main Generique Decolage he used a new ataluku Bercy as the lead and the boy excelled much to the surprise of some of us his critics and am sure his former employers Felix Wazekwa and Ferre Gola himself. The boy Bercy did away with his old style and took Bill Clinton Kalondji's style and now deserves his ''captaincy'' band which Werrason stripped him off at his first audition.

Yes, the sebenes on Fléche Ingeta sounded identical but still they were powerful and well arranged, Werrason has really derailed Ferre Gola and this is a warning to the other rivals including Koffi and JB that he's still in the game and master of sebene,hats off to Werrason for bringing back proper sebene though he could have added more sebene 5 or 6 sebene songs out of an album of 27 is a bit disappointing. A pat on the back for the new singers,some of them stolen from Ferre Gola, they have proved that Ferre did not utilize them properly, now they have proved their potential.

A pat on the back for the instrumentalists in both Ferre and Werrason's bands including the legendary bassist Gode Lofombo who played on almost all songs on the album Fléche Ingeta.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: NEWSIDE96 on January 04, 2015, 15:45
Thank you Sly  :)
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on January 04, 2015, 15:46
Well balanced review and reporting, a spade is a spade. I have not listened to them all but i believe in you.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 04, 2015, 15:52
Thanx guys. Werra has done it, this new album now breaks the monotony he subjected us to since the release of the album Temps Present which was his last well balanced album till now.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Jdog on January 04, 2015, 16:59
What do you mean Ferre didn't utilize Arnake and Nicodem, you sound like Mukeba. And how is the maxi-single Derrangement monotony?
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: princesab on January 04, 2015, 17:22
SLY GET READY FOR ATTACKS For your comments. You said the Truth.

I am glad that Koffi and Mpiana did not release at this time so we have time to listen to Anapipo, Derangement, I Love You and Ingeta.

I wonder how it could be when Mpiana released 30 Tracks and Ingeta 28 Tracks.

Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Roméo Seben on January 04, 2015, 17:31
He said is truth i respect is opinion but i don't share them.

Other then that i don't have really much to say...
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 04, 2015, 17:51
What do you mean Ferre didn't utilize Arnake and Nicodem, you sound like Mukeba. And how is the maxi-single Derrangement monotony?
Well, you made your personal opinion on the two albums and now I have made mine, it's either you disagree with me or agree with me, you've disagreed with me but when we look back at your older posts when both albums were released, you too mentioned some of my points so you're flip flopping, maybe you need more time to listen. I spend most of my time driving and it's when I have chance to listen well especially that my car has a proper system.

When I say Ferre doesn't know how to utilize his musicians, I meant he doesn't let them give their best, he gives them limited time and he doesn't let them sing his songs, he just gives them 30 second vocals and they spend those seconds to mention people's names with some melody and not really sing. As regards Bercy the ataluku, we all agree now that he was not used well by Ferre as he was made number 2 to a tenorist ataluku. When Bercy first auditioned at Ferre's band, he did some good animation, it never ended up on the albums but with Werra, whatever freestyle and audition stuff ended up on the album in a polished way.
Arnake and Nicodem whom some of us thought were just average singers have been given chance by Werra and they've proved their worth on their own songs instead of 30 second vocals they did with Ferre so for that I salute Werra if you don't like, tough!
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Jdog on January 04, 2015, 18:00
Yes I also said that Bercy had a lot of animation that wasn't put in Boite Noire. Ferre gives his singers a lot of time to sing both lyrics and mabanga its Fally's artist that sing nothing but mabanga because they get almost no space at all.Arnake is a good singer who sings mostly like a Ferre wannabe but stop sounds good. Nicodem is like Werra and King Kester, faux chanteurs but make good songs.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 04, 2015, 18:17
We are comparing Ferre and Werrason here. Ferre's camp decided to release a maxi single instead of a Primus single with the intention of causing Werra and His band an upset on the charts but instead it's Werra and his musicians who have taught Ferre a lesson he'll never forget, Ferre and his Lieutenants have even gone underground!
My point is that instead of Werra just listening to the boy's work, he just had to let them put their work on an album, yes he sang a bit of their songs so as to endorse them but the songs are okay. The boys have been with Werrason less than a year remember.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: princesab on January 04, 2015, 18:31
When is the next Werra's Zenith?
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Roméo Seben on January 04, 2015, 18:57
2090
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: NEWSIDE96 on January 04, 2015, 19:27
Nicodem is like Werra and King Kester, faux chanteurs but make good songs.

Did you say King Kester is a faux chanteur  >:(
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Jdog on January 04, 2015, 19:41
Yea I did, and I stand by my comments.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: NEWSIDE96 on January 04, 2015, 19:56
Yea I did, and I stand by my comments.

Rebandela ko yoka musique pendant ebandeli ti na suka, namoni omelaki mois nua avant koloba  :)
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on January 04, 2015, 19:58
Sly, bercy muana has been made to shine because he has participated in a band that allows free flow of singers. Secondly, maison mere is a wenge band that plays better sebenes than ferres band. Its like a footballer player playing on a field with water and another one that is dry. Two different things.

Werrason will always shine because he allows for freedom and takes risks by using new artists unlike some bands.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Jdog on January 04, 2015, 19:59
Yea I did, and I stand by my comments.

Rebandela ko yoka musique pendant ebandeli ti na suka, namoni omelaki mois nua avant koloba  :)
No I'm not high,tipsy etc. Ive heard a good amount of King Kester songs and I don't think he's a good singer. That's my opinion.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: KAISARI on January 04, 2015, 20:39
The Album covers also tell the story, Ferre can't even show face ;D. Good objective review Dj Sly.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 04, 2015, 22:08
The Album covers also tell the story, Ferre can't even show face ;D.
;D lol
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 04, 2015, 22:10
Yes EMO, that is the point I was making, Werrason is a risk taker, he doesn't wait for people to clock ten years before they can record on his albums, if you're good he'll unleash you.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Jdog on January 04, 2015, 23:03
The Album covers also tell the story, Ferre can't even show face
Actually Ferre faced forward on the physical CD cover FYI.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: ngombeshenzi55 on January 05, 2015, 13:19
Thanks DJ SLY, being a Werrasonic and have not yet recieved the Album in Kenya, am warming up for it. DJ SLY go back to Zambia in Parliament..you are the young turks africa needs in leadership, calling a spade a spade...ANALETA MAMBO MSICHOKE...WAPI NDURU ZA NDUGU YANGU MPENDWA KAISARI....UUUUIIIII!!!!!!
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: masatomo on January 05, 2015, 14:00
Yea I did, and I stand by my comments.

Rebandela ko yoka musique pendant ebandeli ti na suka, namoni omelaki mois nua avant koloba  :)
No I'm not high,tipsy etc. Ive heard a good amount of King Kester songs and I don't think he's a good singer. That's my opinion.

Oh man are you sure about that ?
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Ken Bilele on January 05, 2015, 16:26
The advantage on Werra's musicians comes because the master can not sing well and he knows that, he instead let his musicians to sing more and more its the exact opposite when it comes to Ferre's side. SLY I believe you will give your honest opinion just as you've given in here when Koffi Olomide releases!!
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SoukousFan on January 05, 2015, 16:34
2090

L.O.L !
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on January 05, 2015, 17:08
Thanks DJ SLY, being a Werrasonic and have not yet recieved the Album in Kenya, am warming up for it. DJ SLY go back to Zambia in Parliament..you are the young turks africa needs in leadership, calling a spade a spade...ANALETA MAMBO MSICHOKE...WAPI NDURU ZA NDUGU YANGU MPENDWA KAISARI....UUUUIIIII!!!!!!
Kikiki......funny you think Sly can do well in politics.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on January 05, 2015, 17:12
The advantage on Werra's musicians comes because the master can not sing well and he knows that, he instead let his musicians to sing more and more its the exact opposite when it comes to Ferre's side. SLY I believe you will give your honest opinion just as you've given in here when Koffi Olomide releases!!

Werra gives freedom to his singers since he understands fully the principles by which wenge musica was built. It was all about complimenting each other with maximum effort.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: O-Afrika on January 05, 2015, 18:03
Sly i like your  analysis of the release. Now am in the middle east and badly need the album . How do you get me 2 copies of Ingeta?

Could you send me your contact details or reach on whatsapp via +974 5506 5363?
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: Jdog on January 05, 2015, 18:36
Sly i like your  analysis of the release. Now am in the middle east and badly need the album . How do you get me 2 copies of Ingeta?

Could you send me your contact details or reach on whatsapp via +974 5506 5363?
It's on Amazon and Spotify and the physical copy is on Villageafro.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 05, 2015, 23:50
Thanks DJ SLY, being a Werrasonic and have not yet recieved the Album in Kenya, am warming up for it. DJ SLY go back to Zambia in Parliament..you are the young turks africa needs in leadership, calling a spade a spade...ANALETA MAMBO MSICHOKE...WAPI NDURU ZA NDUGU YANGU MPENDWA KAISARI....UUUUIIIII!!!!!!
Hahaha, interesting, thanx for the encouragement and for sure i have ambitions of being a leader as you've rightly put it although EMO has chosen to use the term ''politician.'' The only trouble is that politics are in conflict with my religious beliefs, I would prefer to be a leader actually because politicians lie and i hate lies. ;D
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 05, 2015, 23:52
Kikiki......funny you think Sly can do well in politics.
Not politics but leadership. ;D I wouldn't make a good politician but a good national leader and be assured that one day you'll see me in the Zambian parliament as a lawmaker and you'll remember your words used here on the forum. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on January 05, 2015, 23:54
Sly i like your  analysis of the release. Now am in the middle east and badly need the album . How do you get me 2 copies of Ingeta?

Could you send me your contact details or reach on whatsapp via +974 5506 5363?
I haven't yet got my copy but i managed to get all songs from the net, they are not good quality so now that am happy with the song am buying the actual album,i was skeptical as usual but no, it's worth buying,i especially want to see the videos and see some of the new singers as i didn't recognise some voices especially one voice on the song St Valentin which is an excellent song!
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: ngombeshenzi55 on January 06, 2015, 09:33
Kikiki......funny you think Sly can do well in politics.
Not politics but leadership. ;D I wouldn't make a good politician but a good national leader and be assured that one day you'll see me in the Zambian parliament as a lawmaker and you'll remember your words used here on the forum. ;D ;D ;D

SLY this are not just words used..This is what i can see, feel, is happening. your level of understanding on here and articulating, arguining is above par. people who see good to be good and bad to be bad are limited and scarce are limited in Africa. We protect what we believe in ..that is what we Africans  have done to our planent. Take Zambia to the next Level brother.
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: ngombeshenzi55 on January 06, 2015, 09:40
Thanks DJ SLY, being a Werrasonic and have not yet recieved the Album in Kenya, am warming up for it. DJ SLY go back to Zambia in Parliament..you are the young turks africa needs in leadership, calling a spade a spade...ANALETA MAMBO MSICHOKE...WAPI NDURU ZA NDUGU YANGU MPENDWA KAISARI....UUUUIIIII!!!!!!
Kikiki......funny you think Sly can do well in politics.

I dont think, Politics needs legislation, openess, transparency and Integrity , Biasness tuliachia Cindy na Koffi. DJ SLY will do well if given a chance. Why did people trust Shakespear's Litetature or Chinua Anchebe's or Gandhi?  read between the lines  EMO wa BCBG and tell The big man to release his music soon We are waiting "Pele ya lo pele"
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: ngombeshenzi55 on January 06, 2015, 09:48
The advantage on Werra's musicians comes because the master can not sing well and he knows that, he instead let his musicians to sing more and more its the exact opposite when it comes to Ferre's side. SLY I believe you will give your honest opinion just as you've given in here when Koffi Olomide releases!!

Werrason  sings Well,   depends with what your ear feels comfortable with. Play Werrasons songs when my Neighbours sons are eating and they will stop doing it and rush to my house !  When the Kibuisa Mpipa Generique Rolls in my SoNY HIFI..  It's Problems in the  Hood  and Tiemonage plus the Malewa Practise  "Eya ngiama......"

Their is this neighbour of mine who comes from Kisii, stingyl, So what he does , he leaves his windows open to get the wind waves push the songs to his house, He loves Congo Music !

"Analeta Mambo Msichoke"
Title: Re: FERRE GOLA VS WERRASON: NANI A DÉRANGER NANI (WHO HAS DISTURBED WHO)
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on January 06, 2015, 11:39


I dont think, Politics needs legislation, openess, transparency and Integrity , Biasness tuliachia Cindy na Koffi. DJ SLY will do well if given a chance. Why did people trust Shakespear's Litetature or Chinua Anchebe's or Gandhi?  read between the lines  EMO wa BCBG and tell The big man to release his music soon We are waiting "Pele ya lo pele"
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I am not looking forward to jb mpiana's upcoming cd. I know he wants to surprise us any time up to February 28. But the state of his singers and instrumentalists is below the line. Unless a miracle pops up.