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Music => Congolese Music => Werrason & Wenge Maison Mere Discussion => Topic started by: archos on February 14, 2015, 12:43
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5tXUbwEmgI
please jdog if you can help out on translation or sly,or if not possible i will do it later cause right now i gotta go out
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in short bercy is really unhappy about bill giving armband to fabregas atalaku céda,and says that armband stuff is bullshit anyway and the guy who gives them is doing comedy and himself the so called greatest cant do a more succesful generique than the guy he gave armband and he says bill quickly forgot things(alluding to the fact he used to give bill a lot of animation)
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One album of proper animation and he gets this big headed,damn!!!! He's asking for trouble, i hope Werrason tells him off for his arrogance.
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i fault maison mere on this, maybe he needs to be reminded he is a normal employee of the group,we've seen brigade diego and lobeso have moments of glory but none' of them was like that
the way he has been pampered and treated like a king because he kind of "saved"maison mere after the loss of an important guy like brigade got to his head
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No Bercy Muana is not any normal employee of Maison Mere,he is the coach of all falsetto animators in Congo and he better then all animator in the rest of Africa and Europe!! And Sly did t you say Bercy has the right to boast cause he did great in Ingeta.
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...Bercy has a point, in the spiritual realm you can't retrieve or split an anointment; in short it's safe to say Bill has lost it..
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No Bercy Muana is not any normal employee of Maison Mere,he is the coach of all tenor animators in Congo!! And Sly did t you say Bercy has the ight to boast cause he did great in Ingeta.
boast yes, but you are not helping him at all with being "coach" and any title of that style,armband stuff was ridiculous,being pissed about somebody else getting it is even more ridiculous
bill who did million times much more was a normal employee,not even a chef of something in the group why bercy with one album be "that special'
the issue here is not boasting, but such a childish reaction when werra already had cut that armband BS,look at how in a couple of tv appearances he is ruining all werra's efforts to clean his bad image which actually seems to worsen everyday,to the extent that nsone has to do emergency reunions with him
i do not say bill was right to do that but that reaction from bercy is not mature at all he knows bill very well knows were he lives he could have dealt with that in private,bill even anticipated what is happening now by explaining that he has not taken it off from bercy but given a different power to ceda,lets say it was a senior and a junior stuff
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Sly did t you say Bercy has the right to boast cause he did great in Ingeta.
My friend,boasting about your hardwork is different from disrespecting elders you've found in the game. You can flip flop with your positions but just remember that it's important to respect elders, if you have to disrespect them use metaphor at least. Bill Clinton, Celeo, Tutu Kaludji Ekokota, Djouna and many other senior atalukus have never ever gone on air to say elder so and so is finished,it's total disrespect but anyway,i can't be surprised that you have that sort of judgement.
Bercy Muana is a kid in this game and he has no right to directly disrespect any of those i have mentioned, he can insult Lobeso and others but he shouldn't even dare talk about those mentioned above including the likes of Genta Lissimo, Brigade and many others as they are not from his generation.
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One thing to also remember is that Bill is not the ''endorser'' or Chief Justice of atalukus, all that armband shit he does is for fun however everyone including any fool out there in congolese music knows no ataluku comes to what Bill has done especially in Wenge Maison Mere,all this ingeta ingeta will fade but classics like solola bien will always exist and will be danced to more than Ingeta.
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even sankara looks confused when he goes on his rant about bill,and this says a lot coming from the specialist of attacking people
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One album of proper animation and he gets this big headed,damn!!!! He's asking for trouble, i hope Werrason tells him off for his arrogance.
DONT PANIC - He and Igwe know what they are doing and even bill know very well whats happening, you just relax with the fact that Werra admitted that it was Bill who recommended Bercy.
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............ treated like a king because he kind of "saved"maison mere after the loss of an important guy like brigade got to his head
NOT AGREEING ABOUT THIS.
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loba loba sala sala rien.
We will see where Bercy will be after 5 years.
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............ treated like a king because he kind of "saved"maison mere after the loss of an important guy like brigade got to his head
NOT AGREEING ABOUT THIS.
i put saved into brackets,which means i did not mean exactly like that, what i meant is that there was a problem and even maison mere guys admit in private so the arrival of a a talented and already known like him was like a blessing,you cant deny that in the history of maison mere for whatever reason no atalaku has ever been given that welcome and that much opportunities in less than a year
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One album of proper animation and he gets this big headed,damn!!!! He's asking for trouble, i hope Werrason tells him off for his arrogance.
DONT PANIC - He and Igwe know what they are doing and even bill know very well whats happening, you just relax with the fact that Werra admitted that it was Bill who recommended Bercy.
Why would I panick as if am Werrason or Bill's Manager, it's their own problem to deal with, all of them are just kulunas.
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One thing to also remember is that Bill is not the ''endorser'' or Chief Justice of atalukus, all that armband shit he does is for fun however everyone including any fool out there in congolese music knows no ataluku comes to what Bill has done especially in Wenge Maison Mere,all this ingeta ingeta will fade but classics like solola bien will always exist and will be danced to more than Ingeta.
Bill is the greatest ever falsetto animator and Fleche Ingeta will not fade and it has better generiques then solola bien.
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loba loba sala sala rien.
We will see where Bercy will be after 5 years.
Bercy Muana a lobi apres wana a sali musala ya bien.
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Fleche Ingeta will not fade and it has better generiques then solola bien.
Hey, whatever man.
These days we see them come, see them go, classics remain classics.
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You're not getting it, Decolage will become a classic(if it hasn't already).
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You're not getting it, Decolage will become a classic(if it hasn't already).
;D ;D ;D It's powerful enough but it's sad you don't realise that we are living in a fast changing and developing world, Ingeta will be forgotten about soon, albums drop like rain these days,one or two weeks the album will be talked about then that's it.
I don't know how old you were when the original Wenge Musica Maison Mére was formed, those days competition was stiff and when albums dropped the whole african community danced not just hardcore fans.
What you need to remember too is that Solola Bien was extraordinary especially that Bill used his native tshiluba and slang which most people didn't understand. He took on Djouna Mumbafu's falseto style and twisted it. Bill completely changed animation unlike Bercy who is still learning to be a copy of Bill and doing what every other falseto ataluku does.
The fact that Bercy Muana went on tv several times to praise Bill and show of his armband given to him by Bill shows that he knows he's just being a prick, he knows Bill is the real deal.
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See this guy needs to get hit with a frying pan in he's head
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Sly, what makes you think Fleche Ingeta will be forgotten and there is even more competition these days because of the amount of bands (groups of the leader) and solo artists out there. Bercy dosen't need slang or his native language to do good animation. He has just did animations in Lingala so far and is now the hottest animator out right now.
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Jdog, I have clearly explained above why Ingeta will fade and why Bill is an exceptional ataluku and why Solola Bien never fades.
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The only thing i agree with Bercy is the armband nonsense from Bill and that Bill is past it
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anybody noticed when journalist tony nkoko imitated the way he does some of his animation? :D :D :D :D