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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: bencuri on March 17, 2015, 04:01

Title: Great seben by Les stars du Zaiko
Post by: bencuri on March 17, 2015, 04:01

It is the branch that stayed in Europe:

http://youtu.be/qM-aT2MdSwI

Title: Re: Great seben by Les stars du Zaiko
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on March 17, 2015, 12:10

Quote from: bencuri on March 17, 2015, 04:01

It is the branch that stayed in Europe:

http://youtu.be/r41Y7w0pMkM

They play just like the Nyoka Longo faction. I like the atalaku........melodic.....but the drummer is soft.

Title: Re: Great seben by Les stars du Zaiko
Post by: bencuri on March 17, 2015, 16:33

The atalaku is Papy Cocaine, unfortunately he has retired.

Title: Re: Great seben by Les stars du Zaiko
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 17, 2015, 17:08

Quote from: EMOVICTEAM on March 17, 2015, 12:10

  .....but the drummer is soft.

Drumming is not an easy task,drummers get really tired morevoer this is just a short extract so i don't think it will be fair to say the drummer was weak at the show, maybe on this particular song they decided to play easy sebene otherwise he's drumming fine, sound is clear enough.......they all can't play like Papy Kakol just like the other instrumentalists don't play the same on the same instruments.

Title: Re: Great seben by Les stars du Zaiko
Post by: BG-ground on March 18, 2015, 02:22

http://youtu.be/iciDKMOXvkc

From 1:53:00 please don't tell me that Sebene did not make you shake for 5 min

Title: Re: Great seben by Les stars du Zaiko
Post by: bencuri on March 18, 2015, 19:51

LOL, this is the song I listened to all day today. It is Paiement Cash by Zaiko. However I think this one is not the best solo done by Popolipo, the album version was better. But the Atalakus do a decent job, I appreciate that. I prefer Madoka's solo in the beginning.

Yet, alltogether, I find the seben of Les Stars Du Zaiko is far more better: those melodies, they played that seben quite well. And there is Papy Cocaine, it will be difficult to replace him. Quite bad they dissolved. Possibly they couldn't exist because of copyright claims by Nyoka Longo. However I think if he would gave them free hand, they would have just gain more popularity for his own branch in Kinshasa, too, such a band would have been a nr1. promo tool. In long term he could have benefit more from it than by enforcing copyright claims on them.

Title: Re: Great seben by Les stars du Zaiko
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on March 18, 2015, 20:38

Quote from: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 17, 2015, 17:08

Quote from: EMOVICTEAM on March 17, 2015, 12:10

  .....but the drummer is soft.

Drumming is not an easy task,drummers get really tired morevoer this is just a short extract so i don't think it will be fair to say the drummer was weak at the show, maybe on this particular song they decided to play easy sebene otherwise he's drumming fine, sound is clear enough.......they all can't play like Papy Kakol just like the other instrumentalists don't play the same on the same instruments.

Sly, lets not cheat ourselves, drums are key to sebene and they drive almost all instruments in Congolese sebenes. Take out the drums, leave other instruments and you have raw sebene. But its not just hitting the drums, its hitting them with energy that provides the desired results. And who told you its only kakol who hits them hard?. You have heard and seen, awilo, titina, champion esthetique and others so dont sound like you have forgotten.

Title: Re: Great seben by Les stars du Zaiko
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 18, 2015, 21:20

EMO, what you've said is true but that's not what am talking about,my point is that the guy was playing okay(technically) but we don't know if the reduced energy was out of tiredness as this is a short clip and the show was probably long. This was just an easy going sebene and everyone looked relaxed.