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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Jdog on March 28, 2015, 02:01

Title: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: Jdog on March 28, 2015, 02:01
http://youtu.be/8-vRmewokpY
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: KAISARI on March 28, 2015, 02:11
...Pitschou Santiago...
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: princesab on March 28, 2015, 05:33
YEAH - This was a good One.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 28, 2015, 13:58
Good to know that you're now going back to listen to music from the archives, this way you'll realise that you're too quick to judge musicians who are doing different music today, they've been there done that and are capable of repeating this.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: archos on March 28, 2015, 14:17
lol didier ndenga really likes those scenes to start a clip of generique,did it with shalai,did it with sous sol and  also this one :D :D :D
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 28, 2015, 15:07
lol didier ndenga really likes those scenes to start a clip of generique,did it with shalai,did it with sous sol and  also this one :D :D :D
You mean the Kindoki?! ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: archos on March 28, 2015, 15:10
lol didier ndenga really likes those scenes to start a clip of generique,did it with shalai,did it with sous sol and  also this one :D :D :D
You mean the Kindoki?! ;D ;D

lol yeah and that scene of guys coming from one side and another as if they are about to have a fight :D :D :D :D
even that music is almost the same
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 28, 2015, 15:16
lol didier ndenga really likes those scenes to start a clip of generique,did it with shalai,did it with sous sol and  also this one :D :D :D
You mean the Kindoki?! ;D ;D

lol yeah and that scene of guys coming from one side and another as if they are about to have a fight :D :D :D :D
even that music is almost the same
Yeah. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: Jdog on March 28, 2015, 17:50
Good to know that you're now going back to listen to music from the archives, this way you'll realise that you're too quick to judge musicians who are doing different music today, they've been there done that and are capable of repeating this.
I only listened to this for the first time yesterday because I saw it and I was like what was this, and if they are capable of doing this again how come they haven;t??
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 28, 2015, 19:14
I only listened to this for the first time yesterday because I saw it and I was like what was this, and if they are capable of doing this again how come they haven;t??
The same way Werrason, Koffi, JB and the rest of them have changed their generique styles is the same way Viva has changed, bands are always experimenting that's why we are not getting anything like Solola Bien, Effrakata, Titanic etc otherwise they are all capable of doing better if they go back to the old styles.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on March 29, 2015, 08:14
I only listened to this for the first time yesterday because I saw it and I was like what was this, and if they are capable of doing this again how come they haven;t??
The same way Werrason, Koffi, JB and the rest of them have changed their generique styles is the same way Viva has changed, bands are always experimenting that's why we are not getting anything like Solola Bien, Effrakata, Titanic etc otherwise they are all capable of doing better if they go back to the old styles.

Sly, you are half right. They can do old styles but only if they have the exact formula.  Look at koffi. Without the fallys, mputus, mirarge supersonic etc, nothing can come out of cindy et koffi. Jb too, without makaba, bula, afande,titina etc, nothing much can ge done. Even werrason is struggling to do his old formula. You need the right kind of people around you.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: KAISARI on March 31, 2015, 13:49
This was the last Mwalimu album I bought but Hiroshima still remains my fav; his sebenes have got nosier since...
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 31, 2015, 16:37
Sly, you are half right. They can do old styles but only if they have the exact formula.  Look at koffi. Without the fallys, mputus, mirarge supersonic etc, nothing can come out of cindy et koffi. Jb too, without makaba, bula, afande,titina etc, nothing much can ge done. Even werrason is struggling to do his old formula. You need the right kind of people around you.
They are all capable of doing old formula it's just laziness and trying to go with the flow. Look at what Fally and Mbuta Likasu have done with their albums, old formula on sebene but still sounding good. JB Mpiana did it on Anti Terro and TH without all those big names and he's done it in the recent past with hits like Quel est ton problem and Kipe Ya Yo.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on March 31, 2015, 18:14
This was the last Mwalimu album I bought but Hiroshima still remains my fav; his sebenes have got nosier since...

Alpatchino was key to wembas sebenes. Without him, weak generics and sebenes. MHSRIP.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on March 31, 2015, 18:19
Sly, you are half right. They can do old styles but only if they have the exact formula.  Look at koffi. Without the fallys, mputus, mirarge supersonic etc, nothing can come out of cindy et koffi. Jb too, without makaba, bula, afande,titina etc, nothing much can ge done. Even werrason is struggling to do his old formula. You need the right kind of people around you.
They are all capable of doing old formula it's just laziness and trying to go with the flow. Look at what Fally and Mbuta Likasu have done with their albums, old formula on sebene but still sounding good. JB Mpiana did it on Anti Terro and TH without all those big names and he's done it in the recent past with hits like Quel est ton problem and Kipe Ya Yo.

good album, sebenes etc is all about quality, Sly. Its not just shouting, hitting instruments etc. The quality of singing, rapping, playing instruments, dancing etc needs to be done by a good unit. TH had remnants like Titina, Afande, caludji, jb himself. Now listen to kipe yayo, QETP, you cant honestly compare to older cds of jb.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 31, 2015, 18:50
Alpatchino was key to wembas sebenes. Without him, weak generics and sebenes. MHSRIP.
There was nothing special about Alpacino's animation, am sure had he still been alive today and doing animation for Papa Wemba you would have been calling him an old fart like you do with Kibens and company since he was not a youngster.
Music changes with time so Papa Wemba upgraded like everyone else, his atalukus led by Biscuits des Ecoliers and Bob Djamusket and others have been defending molokai for years and Alpacino couldn't match their creativity that's why he went to singing full time just like Tutu Kaludji did when youngsters like Genta came.
Viva's generiques may not be as powerful as those of Wenge and it's deliberate, Viva's music is more traditional like that of Swede Swede and other traditional congolese bands otherwise, Biscuits Des Ecoliers and Bob Djamusket beat most of these atalukus in some of the big bands we support. I will do a compilation of sebenes by Viva and post here.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on March 31, 2015, 22:12
Alpatchino was key to wembas sebenes. Without him, weak generics and sebenes. MHSRIP.

There was nothing special about Alpacino's animation, am sure had he still been alive today and doing animation for Papa Wemba you would have been calling him an old fart like you do with Kibens and company since he was not a youngster.


Sly.....I have no comment. I am just surprised you can write this. I rate you as a strong music critic. Not this my man.
Title: Re: This is a good generique from Papa Wemba
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on March 31, 2015, 23:16
Sly.....I have no comment. I am just surprised you can write this. I rate you as a strong music critic. Not this my man.
My brother, you can think of me in any way you want,the fact is that i understand lingala and when am not sure i ask, our congolese brothers here can attest to that,i bombard them with questions as am constantly learning. It is through my understanding of lingala that now i can tell what is trash and what is not, there was nothing spectacular about Alpacino's animation, it was the usual animation,he didn't introduce anything different, those who brought new styles of animation are already known so i stick to my words, there was nothing special that Alpacino created moreover Viva's music has always been about harmonious singing and traditional melodies not sebene or generiques therefore in sebene dept they've been average, Viva stepped up their game on the album Somotrop as that's when the animation and guitar arrangement changed completely.