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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: dbz123 on June 30, 2015, 14:10

Title: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: dbz123 on June 30, 2015, 14:10
Hadji is a good friend of mine i spoke to him on the phone yesterday and he was telling me that hes looking for a new guitar
which guitar would suit his style any suggestions?
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: Congomusiclover001 on June 30, 2015, 14:33
Here's another question: Is it really in the guitar or in the skill of the guitar player. If a guitar player has the skill like Hadji or the likes of Flamme Kapaya, any guitar should do right? If one takes away the way the guitar itself sounds, a guitar is still a guitar right?  ;D ;D ;D

But back to your original question, sorry, I got no suggestions.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: dbz123 on June 30, 2015, 14:53
i see your point but this new guitar hes looking its for the upcoming album qu'est ce que javait dit since hes been using the same guitar for years he wants the quality to be on point
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on June 30, 2015, 14:56
Tell Hadji to consider any BC Rich guitar Warlock ,like this Warlock Edge which is the ultimate for that soloist with fury
(http://i59.tinypic.com/hty654.jpg)
Let him also consider making use of a good effects board so that he can alter the sound he's producing but am not saying he should use distortion in sebene!
It's unfortunate that i've just come back from a 6 week holiday so very broke otherwise i would have offered to get him one, i like the guy.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: dbz123 on June 30, 2015, 15:11
Thank you! il make sure i tell him this guitar is indeed perfect for him, he also wanted a steinberger guitar the same trademark of makaba and roga roga but i dont know where to find it
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on June 30, 2015, 15:15
Yes,Steinberger is also good but i think it cost much more than BC Rich. I think a soloist like him needs the fiery BC Rich!
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: NEWSIDE96 on June 30, 2015, 15:49
Steinberger GS will completely good for him something that Alain Makaba and Burkina Faso used to get that clear sound that would be beneficial for Hadji concerning sound.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: NEWSIDE96 on June 30, 2015, 15:51
Check it out mate  :) http://www.edroman.com/detail_sheets/steinberger_gs_natural.htm
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on June 30, 2015, 17:49
Steinberger GS will completely good for him something that Alain Makaba and Burkina Faso used to get that clear sound that would be beneficial for Hadji concerning sound.
Makaba and Roga Roga use the Steinberger M series
(http://i60.tinypic.com/kdv6tu.jpg)
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: NEWSIDE96 on June 30, 2015, 17:56
oops there we go that one thanks  :)
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: Zaiko on June 30, 2015, 18:30
At the end of the day most guitars $300+ sound relatively the same. There are some variances between them but with the effects that can be added, most people cant tell the difference in sound from one to another. I have owned a Mexican made Fender Strat and the more expensive counterpart of the American series...I preferred the sound of the Mexican version.  What is probably more important is the feel of the guitar to the player.
As far as the steinbergers are concerend, I also own one of those...by far my favorite. The only thing is they dont make them in that style anymore so your best bet is to go to ebay to buy one.  If its the exact same type as Makaba, you will pay $1300+ USD.  You can also find the cheaper similar looking ones (Steinberger Spirit) they go for $350+ USD. I have one of those too and they play pretty well too.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: bencuri on June 30, 2015, 22:52
The sound of guitars does matter a lot, even with distortions. I have 3 different guitars, all sounds different when clean and with effects. If you want a sound like that of Diblo Dibala and that classic soukous sound, you should go for a Fender Strat, but not a cheap one because those don't have that characteristic rattling in the sound. Steinberger and most heavy metal guitars produce thinner sounds, ones you can hear on Extra Musica albums and on Wenge Albums where Makaba plays. If you want a fatter sound that lacks the rattling of Fender, you have to go for Gibson Les Paul or types that are similar in tone: Epiphone, Ibanez Studio series, Paul Reed Smith. Roxy Tshimpaka uses Epiphone guitar, his tone is the one Zaiko had in the beginning of 80's. Kinanga Boeing used Ibanez Studio, Zaiko used that type, too. The fatter the sound, the more jazzier it will be. The thinner, the more neutral.

If I were to choose, first I would decide which band has the tone I like and purchase accordingly. But comfortability matters as well. Also you should take the scale into consideration. Fender guitars have 22 frets, they cannot be used to play many songs that were played on 24 fret guitar. If you want to play songs that require those extra two frets, make sure to choose a guitar that is comfortable at the beginning of the neck, because if the neck is thick there, it will be a struggle to play.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on June 30, 2015, 23:04
Good analysis Bencuri and after all this, that's when BC Rich emerges as the victor, it's easy to handle especially when you want those sharp Flamme Kapaya ''telephone'' notes at the very top of the guitar head. ;D
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: KAISARI on July 03, 2015, 15:15
Bernado Chavez Rico it is, preferabley the "Mocking Bird" but for flexibility given his current role in Jet-set the Japanese Ibanez and Yamaha would be my pick...
https://youtu.be/ozFDEUo_sJE
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: shamala on July 03, 2015, 21:45
Nice programme for guitar buffs...
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/sound-revolution-electric-guitar/514946/
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: dbz123 on July 11, 2015, 18:17
Tell Hadji to consider any BC Rich guitar Warlock ,like this Warlock Edge which is the ultimate for that soloist with fury
(http://i59.tinypic.com/hty654.jpg)
Let him also consider making use of a good effects board so that he can alter the sound he's producing but am not saying he should use distortion in sebene!
It's unfortunate that i've just come back from a 6 week holiday so very broke otherwise i would have offered to get him one, i like the guy.
Lol he sactually considering using distortion for a bit in the seben of the upcoming album but i have told him to add effects in his guitar partitions
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on July 11, 2015, 20:36
Lol he sactually considering using distortion for a bit in the seben of the upcoming album but i have told him to add effects in his guitar partitions
He needs to stand out from Charly Solo who uses distortion on some parts of the sebene,tell him distortion should be left for Brazza soloists, he can use a bit of effects to make his solos sound unique but not distortion like Extra Musica, it's a crime for a clan Wenge soloist to use distortion, his teacher Mboka Liya never used distortion so why him Hadji, Mboka Liya's heir use distortion, he'll bring shame on clan Wenge, tell him that!
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: shamala on July 12, 2015, 10:07
http://www.scottysvintageguitars.com/guitars/national-bel-aire-model-1198/
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: KAISARI on July 12, 2015, 15:51
Dbz123, please share some of his practice partitions after you hit him up with Bernado Chavez Rico, if you ask me any artist and especially lead shouldn't limit himself. The more he opens up to fans the sooner they'll demand Ferre to promote him to Lead.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on July 12, 2015, 16:20
http://www.scottysvintageguitars.com/guitars/national-bel-aire-model-1198/
1950's vintage guitar ? where would he get the money to get such a rare guitar.......Like most Gibson guitars, this is suitable for a rhythm or mi-solo guitarist due to the rich thick tones these guitars produce.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: dbz123 on July 21, 2015, 19:55
Lol he sactually considering using distortion for a bit in the seben of the upcoming album but i have told him to add effects in his guitar partitions
He needs to stand out from Charly Solo who uses distortion on some parts of the sebene,tell him distortion should be left for Brazza soloists, he can use a bit of effects to make his solos sound unique but not distortion like Extra Musica, it's a crime for a clan Wenge soloist to use distortion, his teacher Mboka Liya never used distortion so why him Hadji, Mboka Liya's heir use distortion, he'll bring shame on clan Wenge, tell him that!
Does it really matter Loool you making an argument over a sound effect lol it's not a crime it's just to try something new mboka liya probably didn't use that effect only because he probably don't like it.also remember that charly'a teacher was maître ficarre also a wenge soloist
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on July 23, 2015, 13:50
Does it really matter Loool you making an argument over a sound effect lol it's not a crime it's just to try something new mboka liya probably didn't use that effect only because he probably don't like it.also remember that charly'a teacher was maître ficarre also a wenge soloist
There's no big deal mate, let him play whatever the hell he wants, the fans will judge. You asked for suggestions, we give you our opinions since you speak with the chap now you come back trying to debate, just tell Hadji what i have said,he'll probably agree with me or say am talking crap,it's up to him not you to say if my suggestion is rubbish.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: dbz123 on July 23, 2015, 22:31
Does it really matter Loool you making an argument over a sound effect lol it's not a crime it's just to try something new mboka liya probably didn't use that effect only because he probably don't like it.also remember that charly'a teacher was maître ficarre also a wenge soloist
There's no big deal mate, let him play whatever the hell he wants, the fans will judge. You asked for suggestions, we give you our opinions since you speak with the chap now you come back trying to debate, just tell Hadji what i have said,he'll probably agree with me or say am talking crap,it's up to him not you to say if my suggestion is rubbish.
Lol You sound offended of what I said and I did told him what you said and he completely disagree with you.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on July 24, 2015, 07:51
did told him what you said and he completely disagree with you.
That is fine,he knows what he's doing then so he should not be asking for opinions and advice on what to do,he's a professional guitarist with a lot of experience so at this stage he should know what guitar is best for him. Am merely one of his top fans and I am a fan of the band he plays for so was only trying to advise since you said he needs suggestions.
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: princesab on July 24, 2015, 08:53
Tell Hadji to consider any BC Rich guitar Warlock ,like this Warlock Edge which is the ultimate for that soloist with fury
(http://i59.tinypic.com/hty654.jpg)
Let him also consider making use of a good effects board so that he can alter the sound he's producing but am not saying he should use distortion in sebene!
It's unfortunate that i've just come back from a 6 week holiday so very broke otherwise i would have offered to get him one, i like the guy.

Where can i get this guitar...???
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on July 24, 2015, 09:59
Where can i get this guitar...???
I noticed Thierry Mogratana also upgraded to the real one now.
They have a variety at this UK shop http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars.asp?brandname=BC%20Rich
Title: Re: Suggestion of guitar
Post by: bencuri on July 24, 2015, 21:31
In this video you can hear the pure sound of this guitar in "Congolese music" context, quite in studio quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZluDAKwDD_o