mboka has too much hate and resentment in his heart over jb and werra,and this is not good for an instrumentist in particular,proof is that its been a massive while that he's done something of his dimension,that resentment has developed that sarcastic laugh to another level sure they did him a lot of wrong,but he also not always the easiest to deal with hence he's spent at least a day in most of the groups of his prime era
Even tho Burkina isn’t easy to deal with whats with Werra physically attacking others I even heard that Ferre got slapped up by Werra that’s a thuggish behavior
Haha Heritier isn't a legend though, he's more of a Maison Mere legend because of his long spell there but as an actual solo artist legend he has a long long way to go.
My take on this is simple,a conflict in congolese music never happens from one side,if we assume that werra's people are "only" reacting,then some of what ferre does is also reaction aswell,there is in all conflicts what people see and what people dont,like when you give adolphe's example he's said nothing special about werra if anything he's just rubbished the attacks he's been getting since commenting on werra allegedly saying he wears fake clothes and said karma exists and stuff like that yet its considered as " the whole clan being jealous of werra's success" because he is still is close to jb ferre blaise,while he was the only clan wenge member who literally threw a party when ferre succeeded at martyrs so they were always cool for long its not because of werra that suddenly they meet at airport to hurt werra so you see,especially in the case of wenge,there cant be a conflict where somebody is the saint and the other the victim they like to anticipate things which leads to reactions from each and other,some make it too openly some are subtle with it and the other catches and "exposes"which then leads to chaos in the future in the case of ferre and werra particularly you can tell that the peace they had,they did not sit down to clear everything enough and say what they expected from each other,so you'll have like you said external people affecting things,the golois backlash on werra since the visit of ing in a context where ferre's announcement was postponed and subject of mockery by the rivals that the concert would be cancelled like the other one,and then the backlash from werrasoniques for father while he's said big brother multiple times during their peace without an issue and especially werra's cousin ladins going very personal,i think thats what made things explode,because when it was still only fans vs fans,ferre still tried to keep diplomatic peace by still posting werra's concert and saying positive about it,like i said about wenge is a clan of anticipating everything whether they are right or wrong and they firmly believe whats the result of their analysis so that reaction by ladins was like the missing piece of the puzzle to conclude that werra himself agrees with everything that had been going on on record and underground,and same from werra's fans perspective its all ferre's fault aswell i do agree with you 1000000 per cent that its unneccesary,but i think the fundamental issue there with the children thing is whether its symbolic,or whether its an undercover manipulative trick to keep you under control,ever since our music exists there has always been that case where "the children" grows enough to look at the "father" in the face and it created problems,and you can see that guys like heritier or bill happily accept the good children role regardless of the subtle control hidden behind it by the laws of the game of our music,and on the other hand even when there was no noise,ferre refused to fully commit to it not because he does not respect werra but because of the secret spiritual thing where when if you bow down too much to the dons they can control you and he does not want to be controlled,as a grown man who is even a grandfather already,hence even the start of frailties with koffi off late because he did not come to koffi's concert
When you say control you mean on the spiritual part? Because in my opinion those who bowed down to Werra like Fabregas, Wata their careers is in a weird space in my opinion
Funnily enough I was gonna make a topic about this, one of my uncles who’s a strong donor for both and knows both very well told me that their supposed “beef” isn’t as real as everyone thinks it is. They both agreed early in their solo careers to avoid each other because they will both make money off the rivalry, the same Ferre was actually very unhappy that Jb and Werra publicly reconciled at Madilu’s funeral. So they’re tryna stretch out the rivalry as much as they can. Also both were unhappy with Jb when he almost “exposed” them a few years ago when he did that interview saying he doesn’t have a problem with Werra Fally and co, by saying ask both Fally and Ferre what’s their actual problem with each other and neither of them will answer. Obviously sometimes they get lost in the rivalry and take it too far sometimes but as both Faustin and Herve it’s not strong hate.
one thing which made me suspect also is a story marchouse said once that they were in a club and nana ketchup came and some of them started to get very animated and trying to annoy her and ferre called marchouse or another of them to tell them to stop doing that and they were stunned with how he knew it that quick like one two minutes max after
i dont know if it can make people need more time to enjoy the songs,but have people noticed the mix seems completely different from most past albums,i have an uncle who is an arranger for european artists and he says it has been mixed like a blues album
That's why Werra fans hate Ferre, how can you share Koffi album like that propping him up like this but when Werra drops is like he doesn't exist? I understand they has beef, but Koffi also did Ferre dirty many times so why support Koffi and act like Werra doesn't exist? Now I understand why most Maison Mere fans hates him. He is like 50 Cent's son taking a picture with the guy who orchestrated his murder, you don't do that.
Ahh yo pe manzambi. You hate on Koffi so hard it’s insane. It seems you find it hard to let things go and just love people staying in conflict. You clearly didn’t watch Ferre’s press conference where he praised Werra and said Werra formed him, is that pretending Werra doesn’t exist? Koffi was one of those that publicly supported Ferre during his arrest drama whilst Werra was silent, it goes both ways so don’t blame everything on Ferre.
Plus Koffi was one of the few people who personally called when he was in jail, why not show love to a person who supported you? I don't get it.
my man nsone has been taking "mukolomicine" these recent years,who would have ever imagined this 5 years ago however knowing.... you'll see "yalawhateveriitis" and the reference to his "okomela supu shuaaa" video
I'm curious because most make the comparison with Tokooos 2 which is unfair because it's not a rumba album. I'd be interested into knowing why you picked your choice