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@kon7ion

 



The instrumental that Emeneya was using for his entrance since 1988 was really iconic. It's like Muhammed Ali or Mike Tyson coming in to start the match



I wonder what Emeneya thought about Adolphe letting his musicians to wear one of his Zenith-outfits for “Mouna.” Was it a way from Adolphe get revenge against Emeneya for not recognising him as Sapeur. ?


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From my point of view. Koffi made some strange decision for Danger de Mort. I do not understand why he accepted Modogo, Bouro Mpela and Mbochi back. Why did Brigade just animated one small part of the generique? Why did he keep bebe gout for his next album? Why didn‘t he leave asso‘s vocal in?

I do not who said that during the Ado Juhe interview but Koffi wanted to record a song only with Fally and Ferre but wanted to keep it for his own album but he should have included it already in Danger de Mort.

If i remenber correctly did Mirage already leave during the recording process so that Bouro Mpela took over his vocal…

Fally took a lot of Momentum from the Album with Droit Chemin. Moustiquaire just sounds like Jugement Dernier like an End of an Era Track.

He accepted Bouro Mpela back because he knew that either Fally or Ferre would soon leave, so he wanted to anticipate their departure. However, the decision would  backfire on him. During Bouro's first rehearsal after returning, Koffi hyped him up, calling  him  “Le Transfert le Plus Cher” and other stuff . Ferre saw it as an attack against him. He also believed that Koffi would soon do a “12” on him. He decided to stop showing up for rehearsals and concerts.

Modogo, Mboshi and Champion's return gave Quartier Latin fans in Europe some nostalgia about the Droit de Veto-era. Modogo even re-did the solo of Olympia during the concert at Palais des Congres



About Mboshi, Champion and Modogo rejoining Quartier Latin, it wasn't that Koffi accepted them back. It was Koffi himself who contacted them and invited them to rejoin the band. He also contacted Sam Tshintu, but Sam was the only one who turned down the offer.

Even before officially rejoining Quartier Latin, Mboshi and Modogo had already participated in concerts that Koffi did around Europe (Brussels, Savigny, Lyon and Germany) with Ferre and former Quartier Latin members such as Somono, Pathy Bass, Chamberton and Deo Brando. Modogo even collaborated with Ramazani on the EP Boma Nga n'Elengi, adding vocals to “Sissi Silivi.”






Shortly before the European tour, Modogo returned to Kinshasa. I believe this was also why Assow was left behind. Both men have similar roles. Modogo was a veteran of Quartier Latin who already had the French papers, while Assow was still a rookie and it was not sure if he would return once he would be in Europe. As result, Koffi sadly removed Assow's vocals and let Modogo do it in Europe. Marents would have boosted Assow, if they didn't remove his vocals.


About Brigade, Koffi believed that Fally would soon create another Academia and that Brigade would join him, because how close the two were. This made Koffi decide to leave Brigade behind. Mboshi having to do his role during concerts.  With Mboshi's return, Koffi decided to remove some of Brigade's parts from the générique and re-do some sebenes with Mboshi doing the cri's of Brigade. While Quartier Latin being busy touring, Brigade would soon Maison Mère on the same time as Patience. In an interview, Brigade  once said that he was surprised to hear his voice on Danger de Mort. According to him, the recordings they had made in Kinshasa were only voix témoins and he had believed that everything had been erased during the recording sessions in Europe.





Champion rejoined the band because Titina needed a backup drummer and Koffi didn't believe that Tshe-Tshe le Balle would to Kinshasa, as he hadn't been in Europe for four years.Koffi also called Champion for the Zenith concerts of2007 and 2009, even though Titina had already left and Tshe-Tshe being the only drummer  in Kinshasa.

Tshe-Tshe himself once claimed in Angola that Titina wasn't supposed to join the 2005–2006 European tour because Koffi suspected him of sleeping with Bibicia. According to Tshe-Tshe, Titina was lucky to have French papers, which allowed him to travel to Europe. I don't believe this claim, as Tshe-Tshe often lies during interviews.However, I did find it strange that among all the musicians who had songs on Danger de Mort and previewed them on the Boma Nga n'Elengi DVD, Titina was the only one whose image wasn't shown. There was only a shot of him speaking during the “Milkshake” music video.




I remember during the skyrocks era, that there were rumros about Shella Mputu getting left behind in Kinshasa and people being surprised to see him in Europe. I believe that if Sam Tshintu accepted Koffi's offer, that Shella would end up getting left behind. It was a mistake from Shella to return last minute to Africa, when thinking how much he struggled in Kinshasa after leaving Quartier Latin.

Shella had backluck that a politician who started dating his 'ex wife/sugarwoman, plotted against him by letting 'commission de censure' banning his song from the radio and television, which made his song having zero promo in Kinshasa. The ban ending up by getting lifted, but it was already to late for him. 


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I’ll be real it took me 18 years to like the album, I hated it in the beginning. I was expecting a double disc and more sebene so I was disappointed. I was also looking forward to hear Mirage and Asso in the album because they were credited but only to discover their vocals were erased. I was expecting it to be like Force De Frappe or ADT level but I felt let down. It’s only now that I can say the album is good Mbetenge did a really good job the sound was excellent.

Why wasn’t the album a double disc? I feel like they could’ve added more songs and even another Generique which was normal since Effrakata.

Bourman claims that he had a song (BB Gout) on Danger de Mort that was supposed to be sung lead by Ferre. However, after Ferre started hyping the song up, Koffi wanted to make it one of the main songs of his upcoming solo album "L'Album sans nom" (aka Bord Ezanga Kombo). Which why he hadn't a song on Danger de Mort. However, it would sadly turn into badluck against Bourman. Mirage, who had also worked on the song, used the second part of it for “Mon Bébé” without Bourman's authorization. Koffi was really furious against Bourman when hearing Mirage's song, while Mirage just stole it. As Koffi saw it as an act of sabotage, he decided to leave Bourman behind when the band went to perform at Zenith de Paris in 2007.

Koffi had to modify BB Gout, by changing the song part. He also removed a verse to use it in the song Plat Favori, which he sang towards the end. "Lelo dimi makambu maman abandaki koloba"






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Congolese Music / It's so sad to see Theo Bidens in this state
« on: October 13, 2026, 12:20 »

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I believe that King Kester Emeneya's concert at Zenith de Paris on 13 october 2001, was the best concert ever in his music-career after the one at Palais du Peuple in 1990. It's only a shame that Guy Moller, Eric Masudi, Zoe Bella, Anthony Sampaio and Sweet Elesse weren't there. Except Guy, they all admitted that they regretted for missing out on the show. Emeneya showed his strenght as bandleader by putting on a great show within a few months with new singers.

The male and female dancers did also a great job by showcasing the Pende culture and Engundele-dance of the Mbunza. They were just missing traditional outfits. Since concerts came back in Europe, I haven’t seen dancers have their own moment like in concerts of Emeneya, JB, Koffi, etc. dedicating 5 or 7 minutes to showcase a specific ethnic group or culture.

In my opinion it is the best concert of 2001. ACMCO itself voted it as the best concert of the year 2001. I saw Lolo Mutima and his friend Guy Kimvula doing interviews about Emeneya's life. But it would be great if they could invite different bandmembers to talk about the Zenith-show, as it's now 25 years ago that it took place.




I still hope to see the full cassette of Volume 2 uploaded someday. 7ion uploaded Volume 2, but many parts are missing. I believe he put different extracts that were on YouTube together.





In my opinion, it wasn’t necessary for Emeneya to re-record the Zénith show in the studio as Rendre à César. The original Zénith sound was already great.
I would have preferred a double-CD  with two volumes of the live show, instead of having one CD from Zénith and one from Olympia. Many people weren’t even aware of the album having the two shows because the succes around Rendre à César overshadowed it

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Now, 20 years later (13-10-2006 / 13-10-2026), I’m still of the opinion that Danger de Mort deserved a better reception. People were too harsh against  it.I’m still grateful that Koffi finished the  music videos and even filmed some footage in Kinshasa, while many of the singers had already left. While during  Droit de Veto,  he only shot Rond Point, Droit de Veto and Sens Inverse. Would y’all have believed in 2005 or 2006  if someone told you that Danger de Mort would be Quartier Latin’s last album?



Until this day, I wonder why Philipe Guez didn't participate to the album, while he participated to albums like Faux Mutu Moko Boye, Temoignage and Droit Chemin, who were all recorded in that period. Although his absence, Mbetenge and JC Tshituka did in my opinion a good job





It is crazy that Mbetenge had to wait until B.E.K. to get recogition from the public, while his work on Danger de Mort was titanious. Koffi even credited Mbetenge next to him and JC Tshituka among the arrangers of the album. I recently saw an interview with Mbetenge and Popol Mopasula, where Mbetenge said that Koffi was on the plane and asked Fally about him, only to find out that he had left Mbetenge behind in Kinshasa. He was surprised by  because he needed Mbetenge to finish the work they did in Kinshasa in Paris. Rumors say that there was a rhythm-guitarist (I won't cite his name) went to a witchdoctor to be on the Europe-list, which apparently why Mbetenge got left behind

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It's crazy to know that OK Jazz was originally supossed to be at Table Round in Belgium

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@zksuth

 


I wasn't aware that Musamaria's cri in Lubukulumu was originally about kulunas. Does someone know where I can find the full footage of Ferre Gola's show at Fespam 2007 ?



I noticed that many cri's dedicated to Primus or Skol were different before being modified

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There used to be a video on INA Congo's youtube channel having a barber called Socrate Mayemba or Mayiza, talking about different things happening within the Congolese community in Europe. At one point, he talked about a man who had told his wife and children that he was going to get a shout-out on Koffi’s album. He listened to the entire album at home with them, only to realize that didn't receive a shout-out lol. Which made him call Koffi a “taureau” lol.

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No, he just made some compromises and self-funded a large part of the recordings.

Monde Arabe came out around the same period as Alerte Générale and Miracles. At the time, people criticized Koffi’s génériques and it took some time for the public to accept the album because the concept was different and more focused on rumba. Koffi had to defend himself in different interviews that generiques can't be listened everywhere, giving the example when couples are in a bedroom, prefering to listen to Aliya, Eputsha and Pomme Verte.

It was only around February/March that the album slowly started to get accepted and at some point reaching No. 1 on all music charts of Kinshasa. Ferre’s arrival boosted the album’s popularity even more.

Apparently, there were some issues between Koffi and Nadim during the promotion. Koffi wanted to release the music videos quickly, but Nadim wanted to get more profits from the sales of Monde Arabe. This made the official DVD of Monde Arabe getting released one year after the album came out.

While fans in Europe, Africa and America did not have the DVD, people in DR Congo could watch the music videos on television. Koffi provided footage to different TV channels to promote Monde Arabe, when the album came out. However, the clips of Silivi,  Aliya and Esili were censored by  'Commission de Censure', which banned them from being broadcast on television because the commission considered them obscene.

Despite the differences Koffi and Nadim had, they continued working together on Danger de Mort. However, it has been said that Nadim suspected Koffi of pirating his products in Brazzaville and Kinshasa, which created a conflict. This delayed the album’s release by a month. Things only got worse when the EP Swi Chocolat Chaud was released just two months after Danger de Mort. Nadim saw it as sabotage and sued Koffi.

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Congolese Music / Re: WOW FIRST TIME SEEING LIBOKA IN YEARS
« on: October 09, 2026, 22:23 »
I heard that musicians in Kolwezi live better than those in Kinshasa

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There was no record label that could match, let alone surpass, the amount of money Koffi was getting from Sonodisc. Attentat was the final album under his contract with Sono. Several labels approached him, but they backed out after seeing Koffi’s demands. Koffi stayed with Sono as result, which  became Next Music after merging with another label. However, both Koffi and Papa Wemba ended up getting fired, Next Music went bankrupt shortly afterwards.

Koffi Olomidé had for the same reasons problems to find a proper recordlabel to produce Monde Arabe. From that point on, Koffi mostly co-produced his own albums

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He said that he used to be his pire vieux. In the early interviews he did on Ken Mpiana's channel he often said that he used to hang out alot with Werrason and JB Mpiana, when he started doing music. So it must be between one of the two guys

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His record label Sono decided to release a radio version because they wanted to promote his songs on French radio and TV channels ahead of his upcoming Bercy show, as the promotion for his Zénith and Olympia concerts had been community-oriented. It was also for these reason that Koffi came with songs like African Kings, Si Si Si and Chocolat, to target a larger public.

Ironically, apart from RFI and MCM Africa, which was meant for the African diaspora, there was no French TV channel promoted Koffi’s songs nor the Bercy-event. It was only during the event itself that French TV channels showed up to take some footage and airing the following day it on tv. France 2 talked shortly about Attentat version radio during the news report

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Congolese Music / Re: RIP KERSON SADDAM
« on: October 07, 2026, 22:14 »


Ibrahima Sylla. I first thought that it was Papy Bastin's song because of the amount of vocals and shout-outs he did on that song, but it's actually Kerson's song

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