Author Topic: MARIE PAUL REVEALS HIM AND JB ALMOST CREATED BCBG TOGETHER ALREADY IN 1991  (Read 4012 times)

archos on: October 19, 2016, 11:53

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from 26th minute he says him makaba and mpiano(jb) worked hard on the kin e bouger song  and he had a song  on that album but werra refused it because he feared that song would outshine his because of the duet of jb and marie paul but masela supported him saying him marie paul was the vice-chef d'orchestre so he deserved a song but werra still refused and said he'd have a chance on next album and jb told him "'you see he does not like you",but then sometimes the very same werra would come to him and say "dont be worried next album i'll even let you add two songs if you want instead of me" and he went to jb and jb told him he'd be the one to have a vocal on the kin e bouger song since he helped in studio to arrange the song and when he went back to his "mpangi"(brother from same vlilage) werra,werra said "you know what i have to put a vocal on the muluba's song"(refering to jb) and him marie paul replied that jb wanted to do song on his own or with him and werra said "no way,he'd take too much glory if he does on his own i have to participate" so werra did the part which was meant to be potentially marie paul's and he messed up lyrics saying " i like mpiana and his dimples,i like masela with his dress for pregnant women" instead of a woman like it was meant to be in initial version but he did not tell werra he messed up to "punish" him
marie paul says jb was good with him and they could have done wenge bcbg in 1991 him,jb and ricoco but it seems like the guys in the group noticed that so they abandoned it and also denewade( the father of mignon abraham) told them he would take him them three to verckys because he sees big potential in them but they wanted to honour their area of bandal in cementing their position with a united group
then he is asked why he supported werra after split since he is closer to jb and he says he helped werra since werra requested his help unlike jb so he naturally helped werra  but jb is his brother,manda was against him helping werra

mvulusi96 #1 on: October 20, 2016, 00:04

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hmmm so Wenge was never really a cemented band, like they did believe people in the past (already from the Bouger Bouger-days).... Was the departure of Zing Zong & Aime Buanga in 1986, who where equal with Werrason & J.B. in terms of leading the band the reason of it? or was that because they didn't had a president in the past like Vieux Mavo, Jean Belix Mfumu Luvutula who where not musicians, but decided what there would happend in the band....

Wow so Marie Paul admins indirectly that he sacrificed peoples in the past with help from Bouboule, Deny Mulamba & Francis Kalombo and he can sacrifices alot of people for his new album. I think that this album would beat the albums of Deplick, Heritier, etc. in terms of quality, songs, its only the question if the album would succeed in the Congolese community. I can't wait to that song he made about Werrason, from which he gave a little extrait in Papa Rolls interview.

I can feel that Marie Paul  really regrets that he gave his "power" away to Werrason, after the Wenge-split. Because it's already almost 20 years that he's talking about Werrason in interview while nobody is reacting against him even people from his staff of guys like Sankara de Nkuta.

Werrason does really know how to look in the future. He knew that Marie Paul could steal his place,  if they gave him the opportunity to shine(he was also 2eme voix, had the looks at that time and was also BCBG in terms of sape). And also the fact that he could not compete properly against JB (JB was already seen as leader of Wenge), if they gave him alot of space and that the band would become then J.B. Mpiana & Wenge Musica, like Victoria Eleison of Emeneya in the past and Zaiko of 1973-74 with Evoloko, etc. and that he could not start a band with enough fame, if Wenge would split one day. I think that was also the reason why he refused JB to record his solo album Feux de l'Amour, knowing what could happend after that and that people would see them in the future as his employees, like whats happening now with ex'Victoria muscians like Safro, Huits Kilo, Patcho Star, Bipoli, etc.
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archos #2 on: October 20, 2016, 18:14

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actually that kin e bouger tour was quite tense,starting from how there was disagreement between masela jb and nsone over ricoco being forced out of stage then jb siding a bit too much with "employees" while nsone was more into strong authority, which is why most ex- members of wenge say nsone acted like the leader while jb was more of a team spirit guy so there was a difference already between jb who was for soft management and nsone who was quite tough(which is why people tell current maison mere members they are lucky that nsone calmed down a lot)
then what also happened in that tour was how the employees wanted to all remain in europe and let jb werra masela go back because they felt they did not get money from how succesful the tour was and it was makaba who saved the situation
i think marie paul's album will succeed quality wise,like blaise he is sticking to his philosophy a lot so those who love old school musical with moderate programming will like it,but i doubt in europe he will have huge buzz,for the simple reason that people seem to give boost to albums also depending on the image they have of that person,a lot of people will not even listen to album saying "ehh tala ba marie paul oyo asi asila kala"