He starts saying back in early 2000 when big belly was the trend for any succesful artist jb joked to him that he can not stay skinny like he was at that time(he had to stuff his clothes to look the way he looked) and he gained weight then that trend was replaced by a trend of skinny/average guy and he never could lose it despite trying hard but now he is relieved that there are also people in his "game" like defao,jb,adolphe and his favourite naza who completely got that complex out of him
then later he says once he really was struggleing at home so he went to see jb to get some money at concert,and to get that money he said the radiator of his car had problems and jb took him by the hand and told him "bro if you want to ask  people for money you just cant use things like radiators because somebody can give you 30 dollars to fix it,you gotta say something like the car engine then you can get good money' and he joked that this day jb teached him a great lesson as clan wenge are experts in that

. Aah just watched this interview. Mbuta Likasu can leave you in "stitches".. That imitation of Seguin Mignon. "Te kee keende ti  vi...vieux na yo" . I kept repeating that part. Lol.

the way he imitated seguin reminded me of  in 4X4 when him and ferre just arrived werra used to "form" them like in army a little bit to make them mature faster
for example i remember at some point wenge could perform 3 concerts at different places the same day in kinshasa and werra was receiving gifts in concert he'd turn  to them "dii petit herve,la segunta bo memela nga ba plan na palais mais nakuta bino na atmosphere bovandi deja" and they'd start walking to werra's house and come back to concert,then walk again to the third place because nsone jb and co all prefered to take girls  or their close petits of then in their cars
and one day they were sent to werra's house with two bags of clothes which came for werra and on the way that day seguin and ferre struggled because it was bloody heavy not like those of nowadays so they were stopping a lot on the road and at some point they meet werra who was heading to somewhere to get money before the other concert and it coincided with seguin telling ferre that they should make a pause and he was like "ja ja ja jazz o mo mo moni te que il faut to pema and werra's head popped out of the car and he was mocking him like " ja ja jazz then went meaner like namona bino na concert boza wana "
 and after the last concert they expected  to go into werra's car at the end,titina had given his snare drum to  seguin so that he can work at home while werra had another plan with jb which is to get girls from that concert and deal with them lool at one hotel where they used to love going to before going to bed so there was no more place if you added the close petits,and werra with a very calm and soft voice, turned to them and said " you see walking is good for your health, its not too far you take this this and this road you'll arrive" while it was hella far and seguin said vi vi vieux fuuuta biso taxi which werra ignored and  they started walking with seguin sulking because he had to lift the snare aswell now and when theywere halfway through they meet werra again at crossroad and werra talked the way seguin talks  and they laughed hard
few years ago seguin say its that day he really felt he was in wenge because in the same night he felt like abandoning music and felt like he was werra's friend

. Theses guys really went through a tough time to get were they are now... Likasu did another interview with Franck Stemay I think we're he admits that he is "finished" musically but that he is comforted by the fact that he is now the presida ofthe union of  Musicians who are finished. Lol