Author Topic: EXTRA MUSICA NOUVEL HORIZON GENERIQUE CHOC  (Read 3341 times)

archos on: January 28, 2020, 00:27

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sounds like not the final mix,obama's additional keyboards are barely audible

« Last Edit: January 28, 2020, 00:34 by archos »

Manzambi94 #1 on: January 28, 2020, 00:47

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Beside the sound the song is bad. It started in a cool way but progressed in a very Sonor-esque type of way and up to monotonie.
I get why Levyson got away from Extra he only wamted to be the leader.
If they want to compete with Roga Roga they must do better because now the Sonor is gone and that new soloist came in Roga Roga natural ability to play Wenge type rhytm and a nee breath of soloist can be seriously damaging.

archos #2 on: January 28, 2020, 02:49

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they should have added a minute of sebene at the end,sebene on that note/air is often deadly
if it was biraman instead of zaparo he'd get he guitarists and drummers to do some interplay around the sosola animation then bring back one of the previous animatin on sebene thats the difference between extra and patrouille extra love to end on a low,patrouille will put the slow parts in middle then sebene throughout till the end
both extras need an atalaku who will come with something totally different the way,somebody like de brazza  who has a unique style

archos #3 on: January 31, 2020, 04:56

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with rythm guitar and keyboard finally well audible

Wenge1995 #4 on: January 31, 2020, 06:30

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Hmm, it'll take some time to grow on me but it's not bad

bencuri #5 on: January 31, 2020, 13:46

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The video is very well directed and interesting, the music needs to be improved. The part with clean guitar was not interesting for me, the distortion part: that one I liked. Sonor can do good things, he proved it on the 242 album, he should stay on that path.

One thing is a true improvement though regarding the past 10-20 years of Congolese music: the lead guitar is in the focus and very well audible.  This is crucial, and I am glad people recognised it and did improvements.
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Matebu #6 on: January 31, 2020, 23:50

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The video is very well directed and interesting, the music needs to be improved. The part with clean guitar was not interesting for me, the distortion part: that one I liked. Sonor can do good things, he proved it on the 242 album, he should stay on that path.

One thing is a true improvement though regarding the past 10-20 years of Congolese music: the lead guitar is in the focus and very well audible.  This is crucial, and I am glad people recognised it and did improvements.

Sonor's deep and well-defined bass lines is what get's me fully on board, something that's become a lost art.

Wenge1995 #7 on: February 01, 2020, 02:13

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@Matebu

I feel like animation is becoming a lost art; the guitarist either doesn't trust the atalaku to guide the progression of the sebene or the atalaku can't make cries without excessive mabangas and sexual references.

Matebu #8 on: February 01, 2020, 02:24

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@Matebu

I feel like animation is becoming a lost art; the guitarist either doesn't trust the atalaku to guide the progression of the sebene or the atalaku can't make cries without excessive mabangas and sexual references.

That direct street (shegue or folklore group) influence that made it an art is long gone and on top of that atalakous now are disconnected as they get established in groups

They guys just buy cries instead of spending time in Matonge, Bandal, etc
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Wenge1995 #9 on: February 01, 2020, 02:27

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@Matebu

I know folklore groups aren't around like before, but there are plenty of shegues with great cries. Why don't they recruit those street performers into bands or instruct atalakus to hang around those street kids to get inspired?

archos #10 on: February 01, 2020, 03:05

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 they contact street guys or vice versa but the problem is that they mistreat them they will make them come at their house before daylight,then wait for them to wake up at midday,get out come back again 6hours later and not care whether the guy ate or not then started working with him fooling him with  a plate of vegetables  and record them so either the guys do not give their best work anymore or they will bring their work to several places hoping for a bit of recognition because they are not paid in most cases,the artists say ok sell me 5 generiques i will give you 200 dollars but i am going out come back this or that day and they have already planned bodyguards to block you and beat you if needed
there is a guy called chico adebayor(because of his long legs like the player) who was selling to fally and co generation he got beaten so hard for claiming his 200 dollars that he almost lost a leg
and i think the deeper problem is that leaders seem not to have the hunger to release classics anymore all what matters is the name which will drive them and their atalakus,notice how from the second atalakus make one or two known animations the level of hunger completely changed, a guy like sabalo is a perfect example,he is the most active atalaku of the G5,been there since their first work with their own groups but now can barely go over 30 seconds on generiques,how is that possible,when you are  a gifted atalaku,younger brother of another gifted atalaku who can help you out,and from an area filled with street providers
so all in all i will sum it up with two words,stingyness and arrogance,which is why guys like genta or eclipse are consistent,they are not afraid or ashamed to work for hours and be helped out by people who even for most live with them in comfortable conditions,you gotta motivate people to keep helping you out,but most atalakus and leaders dont understand that

Manzambi94 #11 on: February 01, 2020, 11:01

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they contact street guys or vice versa but the problem is that they mistreat them they will make them come at their house before daylight,then wait for them to wake up at midday,get out come back again 6hours later and not care whether the guy ate or not then started working with him fooling him with  a plate of vegetables  and record them so either the guys do not give their best work anymore or they will bring their work to several places hoping for a bit of recognition because they are not paid in most cases,the artists say ok sell me 5 generiques i will give you 200 dollars but i am going out come back this or that day and they have already planned bodyguards to block you and beat you if needed
there is a guy called chico adebayor(because of his long legs like the player) who was selling to fally and co generation he got beaten so hard for claiming his 200 dollars that he almost lost a leg
and i think the deeper problem is that leaders seem not to have the hunger to release classics anymore all what matters is the name which will drive them and their atalakus,notice how from the second atalakus make one or two known animations the level of hunger completely changed, a guy like sabalo is a perfect example,he is the most active atalaku of the G5,been there since their first work with their own groups but now can barely go over 30 seconds on generiques,how is that possible,when you are  a gifted atalaku,younger brother of another gifted atalaku who can help you out,and from an area filled with street providers
so all in all i will sum it up with two words,stingyness and arrogance,which is why guys like genta or eclipse are consistent,they are not afraid or ashamed to work for hours and be helped out by people who even for most live with them in comfortable conditions,you gotta motivate people to keep helping you out,but most atalakus and leaders dont understand that
I think that the lost of Congolese music in the African big spot is also due to this. From the leader to the most insignificant group members everybody are stingy and rude. Wow. Fally. I didn't expect this from him we all see him as this perfrct guy who is good and polite but act like this. My God those poor guys don't eat and don't have a good life and yet these guys play with them. How can we advance as a society if we treat our own brothers like this?