Author Topic: DONORS AND DOWNFALLS  (Read 2796 times)

Manzambi94 on: July 10, 2020, 20:55

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Now I don't know why but Vital Kamerhe's process has not receved the national attention it should with that said, I have seen very few musicians who spoke up to defend Vital or even go on TV to say they were sorry for him. Robinio for example he was saying Vital Kamerhe le pacificateur in his Bina Na Nga song but I doubt he reached out for Vital, I took Robinio as an example but it can be any artist. Werra for example he was at an interview with Papy Mboma saying he call Vital Kamerhe Vieux ViKa when in need of something, has Werra pulled his money to take Vital out? I doubt it. What happens when Donors get in prison/lose money? Are the musician still that loving and caring with them or they just avoid them?

Mfumu Vata #1 on: July 10, 2020, 22:44

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Everybody was focused on te process of Kamerhe, it’s just that this is a music-forum and people got getting interested in it. But people in Kinshasa were following it like a soap everyday  on tv and street through those écran-géant and here in people sharing on social media the links to follow it. Every day there  memes made about it (calling it prison-break). Every week they would make joaks about that Libanese guy, who claimed to be sick and wanting to suicide himself and Kamerhe’s sentences getting citated « je veux mettre le feux ». Also the shock had when the lawyer got killed. Nowadays most Congolese people are focused on politics these days and not music or sports, Congovibes ekosa yo it. There were recently big protest marches and the houses of Aubin Minaku & Jean Marie Kassamba getting vandalized, also te church of pastor Sony Kafuta yesterday. Btw Kamerhe’s process made many people in South-Kivu furious and many wanted to get a own republic (Repuvlic Kivu) with many putting flash of it in the streets.

When donors lose money they got abandoned and not mentioned anymore in songs. That’s also why many in Europe became comabttans. There are on YouTube some interviews of former drugdealers who don’t wanna hear the names of musicians. PDG MVB, Photo Joël Mbetenge and Liyebo Gravy Mfutila don’t like Werrason anymore.




Wenge1995 #2 on: July 11, 2020, 03:43

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Everybody was focused on te process of Kamerhe, it’s just that this is a music-forum and people got getting interested in it. But people in Kinshasa were following it like a soap everyday  on tv and street through those écran-géant and here in people sharing on social media the links to follow it. Every day there  memes made about it (calling it prison-break). Every week they would make joaks about that Libanese guy, who claimed to be sick and wanting to suicide himself and Kamerhe’s sentences getting citated « je veux mettre le feux ». Also the shock had when the lawyer got killed. Nowadays most Congolese people are focused on politics these days and not music or sports, Congovibes ekosa yo it. There were recently big protest marches and the houses of Aubin Minaku & Jean Marie Kassamba getting vandalized, also te church of pastor Sony Kafuta yesterday. Btw Kamerhe’s process made many people in South-Kivu furious and many wanted to get a own republic (Repuvlic Kivu) with many putting flash of it in the streets.

When donors lose money they got abandoned and not mentioned anymore in songs. That’s also why many in Europe became comabttans. There are on YouTube some interviews of former drugdealers who don’t wanna hear the names of musicians. PDG MVB, Photo Joël Mbetenge and Liyebo Gravy Mfutila don’t like Werrason anymore.




Those donors are stupid, only give what you can afford lol

Mfumu Vata #3 on: July 11, 2020, 05:04

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They have the money when they give it to musicians. But sometimes it happens that they got arrested, their business going down or closed, etc. These moments make them broke. Sometimes it happens that they go towards the musicians and them getting blocked by the bodyguards. Some had created a band and their families visiting each other. But after the downfall, there isn’t any contact and if the donor tries to call the musician, the musician won’t take thd call. That are the things that angers them a lot. Guys like Photo Joël Mbetenge got their shop closed by the police because of Werrason for twice disturbing the public order. He created his fanclub in Paris who collected money and mobilized people for big events like Villejuif, Palais des Sports, Bercy & Double Zenith. Mbetenge was also the person who hired the motorcycle for Werra’s entrance at Zenith, the horse at Bercy and the goat at Villejuif.

Wenge1995 #4 on: July 11, 2020, 07:21

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They have the money when they give it to musicians. But sometimes it happens that they got arrested, their business going down or closed, etc. These moments make them broke. Sometimes it happens that they go towards the musicians and them getting blocked by the bodyguards. Some had created a band and their families visiting each other. But after the downfall, there isn’t any contact and if the donor tries to call the musician, the musician won’t take thd call. That are the things that angers them a lot. Guys like Photo Joël Mbetenge got their shop closed by the police because of Werrason for twice disturbing the public order. He created his fanclub in Paris who collected money and mobilized people for big events like Villejuif, Palais des Sports, Bercy & Double Zenith. Mbetenge was also the person who hired the motorcycle for Werra’s entrance at Zenith, the horse at Bercy and the goat at Villejuif.

I was always confused by Mbetenge's bitterness, because why do all those things for no payment? Getting praise in concerts and albums is underselling the hard work he did to make those concerts as mythical as they are. He put too much trust in that friendship...

archos #5 on: July 11, 2020, 09:31

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most musicians have no mercy with donors,there is for example two leaders(who have never been in same group) who say "donors are like sidekicks you suck them until they are are extremely dry and you dump them for a fresher one
it has calmed down a bit with the lack of europe tours,but back in those days if you are not stealing stuff for the leader,giving him mad money to support his group,letting his musicians sleep at your house to extent that you send your own kids elsewhere sometimes  to create more space,you wont have much consideration and from the moment you start dropping your involvement a little you can see your name erased from mabanga even if you paid
i have witnessed personally in a studio in france a leader coming while they were mixing and when he heard some names which he did not want to hear anymore being sang in vocals he got furious and started shouting at everybody that those musicians who put this or that names have maximum 1h to come and change it or they are suspended
I can guarantee you knowing our musicians that vital is still getting demands despite being in prison
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Cavalier Solitaire #6 on: July 11, 2020, 13:22

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@Mfumu Vata you mean Grevy Mfutila Liyebo is no longer in good terms with Werrason, i thought that he was the main donor of Maison Mere? Wow!

Celeo Scram is probably the only one who still wishes Vital Karmehe well even during this time that he is in prison. But then again obviously you'd expect that those with much success and were always mentioning his name should offer moral support even now when he is down.

By the way yesterday i was watching on news some protests were three people died in DRC over the appointment of a certain person to head the Election Commission which protesters are saying the appointee is too close to Kabila and would likely hand the presidency back to Kabila in 2023 if he remains head of the elections commission.