in short he says that he joined maison mere before flamme kapaya left,he was with alain mpela and somebody spotted him and said "you have to go to maison mere",and he was tested in front of adjani,cambodge,taddet and co who did not make it to europe tour and when the group came back werra asked to see that soloist recruited in his absence and tested him again and was impressed
so he shared solo mi solo with thierry mogratana who he thanks a lot for treating him well unlike some other people who when they come from europe they think their blood is not red anymore so they are superior to the people they meet back home
flamme did not return with the group and only returned later on,and he was surprised to see that when flamme arrived at rehearsal and had to make a little speech to announce his return werra left the stage while usually the musician would talk then werra would react after him,it was instead kakol this time which makes him think something was planned to humiliate flamme
he also said that when flamme returned him and mogratana were a bit shook because flamme's absence allowed them more freedom to express themselves and flamme coming back he'd automatically reclaim his control of the artistic direction
there was tension between flamme and werra because flamme was asking for werra to buy him a house or even just rent a good standing house for him as he was having issues with the lack of paiement to pay rent(most leaders when they return from europe or when they feel some ego is growing in the group they decide to go like 6 months without paying)which werra was refusing
and flamme ended up leaving so they had to erase many parts of flamme in temps presnt to give him christian some space
it was thierry mogratana who should have played generique but whatever happened and thierry left too so he played it instead of flamme and thierry
he was asked about heritier's influence and he said heritier had huge influence in the group if you saw a singer having access regularly on stage when werra arrived in most cases it was with heritier's support,he was inviting musicians at his house to give them tactics to win werra's trust,to make them learn songs better...and the most significant memory he has of heritier's mentor role is how lobeso who was not in werra's plans at all for temps present generique was waken up in the night while sleeping as heritier sent his driver to go and pick lobeso to come in studio,and he says maybe without that lobeso would have never hadthe career he's had
even for the flamme case,heritier was the only one who behind the scenes strongly showed disapproval of flamme's treatment which lead to admins intensifying their operations to challenge him to prove their loyalty to werra
ado asked if no musician could speak at rehearsal about it and he said lazamba was no joke people were afraid of talking because bodyguards could lift you anytime and throw you out forgetting you are a member of the group
and he added that heritier was not a bully like people think but he was just reacting
for him christian,maison mere has a bad system of turning everybody against each other easily,so as soon as any new member was starting to get any attention from fans the staffs would make him believe he has to challenge heritier and push him out of the group
and he gave example of deplick and fabregas who were sent on mission to disrespect him as soon as they had some success and they were only entering when werra would come on stage so heritier said ok enough is enough from now on they have to start concert like us because theyare thinking they are above the rest because they enter when the boss arrive only
and he adds that unlike what people believe from outside,heritier was not given a easy ride in thegroup he was constantly challenged to make him lose it and leave and be badly portrayed but since hewas mentally strong and stubborn he faced it all till the end
he says when he became the starter,despite living at werra's house and werra planning given how you he was to have decades with himas the new main soloist,he also received the same system of being sent people,out of the blue while he was just establishing him self 20 soloists were recruited and one even came with something spiritual which he put on his ampli which was causing his sound to be muffled while when the guy played it was crisp clear,luckily a new guitar and ampli arrivedin the group so it solved the problem
and he also received attacks making hands kinda paralysed when holding the mediator to play the guitar
and when they arrived in europe again he started hearing noise that maison mere is looking for a new soloist to dump him in kinshasa(this was when the likes of pitshou concorde,late lebou to name a few where approached) so he thought about the flamme case
the way flamme gave his absolute all to the group and was treated like that and said to himself if flamme who for him is the guy who built maison mere artistically was dumped like heis nothing,then him who is just starting to prove himself it will be even easier to humiliate him and he decided to live as he also noticed that even with werra things were different now
it hurt him
he was asked if he did sorcery too,and he was honest in saying that he tried when he was with alain mpela he went with groupmates he did not want to mention(miel is one of them) but the guy said not you go back home andthe friends who look like they were alreading coming there stayed and once again in brazzaville he was approached by a sorcerer and was meant to go and see him but maison mere went back to kin earlier than planned so he thinks God did not allow him to do it
he also talked about spiritual war between singers and gave the examples of kojack taddet and caferoum who all had for a long time all sorts of difficulties to sing as soon as they were on stage
he said now he has decided to be only into religious music after all he experienced in "secular music"
