She asked for history of the group and he talks about how the celio stars group collapsed,then the inital wenge4X4 collapsed early on aswell which people do not know until it restarted in early 80's,he talks about the split briefly refusing to go to deep into details saying that the split started in chad which lead to the animation "ndjamena makudila" which was quickly transformed omitting ndjamena the capital of chad and later in kenya as some musicians fought but its not important to mention who anymore
he talks about wenge reunion saying that things are starting this week and that there is already contracts coming for african countries  and he expresses his joy to see his young brothers having made peace and gets emotional from 32 30 as he reveals that for the first time in 25+ years he went to werra's house and werra took him apart refusing that people hear what they say and they talked face to face  and he could not hold tears of joy

She asked for history of the group and he talks about how the celio stars group collapsed,then the inital wenge4X4 collapsed early on aswell which people do not know until it restarted in early 80's,he talks about the split briefly refusing to go to deep into details saying that the split started in chad which lead to the animation "ndjamena makudila" which was quickly transformed omitting ndjamena the capital of chad and later in kenya as some musicians fought but its not important to mention who anymore
he talks about wenge reunion saying that things are starting this week and that there is already contracts coming for african countries  and he expresses his joy to see his young brothers having made peace and gets emotional from 32 30 as he reveals that for the first time in 25+ years he went to werra's house and werra took him apart refusing that people hear what they say and they talked face to face  and he could not hold tears of joy

Ex Wenge Musica.Maison Mere musicians are childish why wait for so long to make a reunion if they had done it in due time, I don't think the pushback and the "Basila" chants would be present now like they are because performing in DRC a lot is seen as a sign of weakness because you don't have many African countries tour. With that said what was the crie of Makudiwila Ndjamena? I probably heard it but don't remember it.

She asked for history of the group and he talks about how the celio stars group collapsed,then the inital wenge4X4 collapsed early on aswell which people do not know until it restarted in early 80's,he talks about the split briefly refusing to go to deep into details saying that the split started in chad which lead to the animation "ndjamena makudila" which was quickly transformed omitting ndjamena the capital of chad and later in kenya as some musicians fought but its not important to mention who anymore
he talks about wenge reunion saying that things are starting this week and that there is already contracts coming for african countries  and he expresses his joy to see his young brothers having made peace and gets emotional from 32 30 as he reveals that for the first time in 25+ years he went to werra's house and werra took him apart refusing that people hear what they say and they talked face to face  and he could not hold tears of joy

Ex Wenge Musica.Maison Mere musicians are childish why wait for so long to make a reunion if they had done it in due time, I don't think the pushback and the "Basila" chants would be present now like they are because performing in DRC a lot is seen as a sign of weakness because you don't have many African countries tour. With that said what was the crie of Makudiwila Ndjamena? I probably heard it but don't remember it.

What is the relationship like for WMM members as of late? To my knowledge, everyone is on good terms with each other and Werra. What about Lacoste, JDT, and Ali Mbonda? I don't think they're on good terms

Is Marie Paul still resentful of his former band members? It would seem unfair to proceed with a reunion concert without him, considering his contribution to Kalayi Boeing. Or do you think he wasn't that important to Wenge history?

She asked for history of the group and he talks about how the celio stars group collapsed,then the inital wenge4X4 collapsed early on aswell which people do not know until it restarted in early 80's,he talks about the split briefly refusing to go to deep into details saying that the split started in chad which lead to the animation "ndjamena makudila" which was quickly transformed omitting ndjamena the capital of chad and later in kenya as some musicians fought but its not important to mention who anymore
he talks about wenge reunion saying that things are starting this week and that there is already contracts coming for african countries  and he expresses his joy to see his young brothers having made peace and gets emotional from 32 30 as he reveals that for the first time in 25+ years he went to werra's house and werra took him apart refusing that people hear what they say and they talked face to face  and he could not hold tears of joy

Ex Wenge Musica.Maison Mere musicians are childish why wait for so long to make a reunion if they had done it in due time, I don't think the pushback and the "Basila" chants would be present now like they are because performing in DRC a lot is seen as a sign of weakness because you don't have many African countries tour. With that said what was the crie of Makudiwila Ndjamena? I probably heard it but don't remember it.

What is the relationship like for WMM members as of late? To my knowledge, everyone is on good terms with each other and Werra. What about Lacoste, JDT, and Ali Mbonda? I don't think they're on good terms

Sorry I meant BCBG the original one the one with JB, Werra, Makana, Bula etc. My baf

in the OG maison mere,most of them are cool except jdt and lacoste who still beef a lot,baby and lacoste who have some disagreement aswell,lacoste and ferre which is on off on off on off based on lacoste's whims,if kabose counts as OG maison mere then him and celeo and ferre it there is issues,and then there is the eternal heritier ferre thing,heritier never wanting to be in ferre's shadow ferre showing he is the big brother so they always let their jesters fuel things
as for the marie paul question,he is resentful yes for various reasons,the old ones being the el paris 4X4 beef,then the beef with werra and the fact he expects jb to side with him strongly when he attacks werra which does not happen,and the last ones being that when he got seriously sick recently for a long period none of the guys except blaise bula called to get his news so he is very hurt about it
another factor i just thought about is the relationship with presidents kabila and tshisekedi,jb and werra were above of him  in the older government while he would not have minded accepting their money to sing for campaigns and so on  and seemingly have gone above him again as he sided strongly with the tshisekedi family
all in all due to el paris going from a warmup diaspora section of 4X4 to a fierce rival,the 4X4 boys consider marie paul,zingzong, ricoco,aime buanga and even manda to some extent as members of "another group" so they are not automatically in the list
mind you somebody like seguin has more chance to be automatically associated to reunion projects

in the OG maison mere,most of them are cool except jdt and lacoste who still beef a lot,baby and lacoste who have some disagreement aswell,lacoste and ferre which is on off on off on off based on lacoste's whims,if kabose counts as OG maison mere then him and celeo and ferre it there is issues,and then there is the eternal heritier ferre thing,heritier never wanting to be in ferre's shadow ferre showing he is the big brother so they always let their jesters fuel things
as for the marie paul question,he is resentful yes for various reasons,the old ones being the el paris 4X4 beef,then the beef with werra and the fact he expects jb to side with him strongly when he attacks werra which does not happen,and the last ones being that when he got seriously sick recently for a long period none of the guys except blaise bula called to get his news so he is very hurt about it
another factor i just thought about is the relationship with presidents kabila and tshisekedi,jb and werra were above of him  in the older government while he would not have minded accepting their money to sing for campaigns and so on  and seemingly have gone above him again as he sided strongly with the tshisekedi family
all in all due to el paris going from a warmup diaspora section of 4X4 to a fierce rival,the 4X4 boys consider marie paul,zingzong, ricoco,aime buanga and even manda to some extent as members of "another group" so they are not automatically in the list
mind you somebody like seguin has more chance to be automatically associated to reunion projects

What's Kabose problem with Celeo and Ferre? If I'm not mistaken, it's Ferre who brought him to Masion Mere after things didn't work out with Defao.

kabose has been mad at ferre for years because when his group saw a massive downfall after the couple of hits he had some members went to knock ferre's door and he thinks its ferre who contacted them while every single of his musicians who went to ferre were given 12 after 12 and never really became members of the group
Then after getting closer to fally he took the habit of praising him and digging at ferre,and also at ferre's ex secretary after falling out with him went to kabose at some point and had been dissing hard(and obviously you know marchouse aint shutting up when its about defending ferre)
kabose and celeo its a little bit of the same thing closer to ferre so him as closer to fally would not shy away from some shade at celeo,and on celeo part it started from the fact ado asked is it true that the musicians beef over women and he said yes and gave example of kabose sending messages to his ex girlfriend who he knows well that it is his ex because he came to eat there or receive money sent by somebody to give to him from europe but that he did not make a big deal of it,and kabose was furious that celeo said it on tv  but before that they were really close

kabose has been mad at ferre for years because when his group saw a massive downfall after the couple of hits he had some members went to knock ferre's door and he thinks its ferre who contacted them while every single of his musicians who went to ferre were given 12 after 12 and never really became members of the group
Then after getting closer to fally he took the habit of praising him and digging at ferre,and also at ferre's ex secretary after falling out with him went to kabose at some point and had been dissing hard(and obviously you know marchouse aint shutting up when its about defending ferre)
kabose and celeo its a little bit of the same thing closer to ferre so him as closer to fally would not shy away from some shade at celeo,and on celeo part it started from the fact ado asked is it true that the musicians beef over women and he said yes and gave example of kabose sending messages to his ex girlfriend who he knows well that it is his ex because he came to eat there or receive money sent by somebody to give to him from europe but that he did not make a big deal of it,and kabose was furious that celeo said it on tv  but before that they were really close

I feel like this beef could be squashed with a phone call, especially the Ferre situation. Do you believe Ferre poached musicians from Kabose?

As far as Celeo goes, I suppose he speaks too confidently like King Kester, But Na Filet, and Felix Wazekwa. They're not political people, which creates tension for more "hollywood" personalities like Werra, Bill, Gessac, and Koffi

nahh more like they went to look for a job,but its also possible that because the kabose musicians were dissing ferre a lot for years back then to try to "put their leader back on the map" as one of his now ex members and chef explained,its not totally impossible that for example a donor lured them ,but not ferre,proof is none made it into the ferre group all those who tried were either rejected at tests,not allowed to be tested,or sidelined until they lost it and left