He talked about how he joined 4X4 and the split and so on and that when he left bcbg after staff who wanted to endear themselves to jb made sure to break their wonderful relationship by gossiping to jb to lead to a point where relationship is very affected,he wanted first to retire from music and do something else then came the idea of an album and he was then approached to join quartier latin and it was part of his conditions to join to finish his album in the band and that koffi approached him because he was tired of champion's behavior so he came in studio and koffi asked to engineer to erase the drums from the 3 songs champion played and he played them instead and then he officially signed a contract years later,they started first with the entrance bonus and salary formula until at some point when ngulu affaire peaked embassies were asking for contracts in groups to give visas(i remember maison mere even showing contracts on tv lol with the indirect message of  now you cant complain because we showed contract that you are well paid lol)
 and koffi was asking musicians how many years of contract they want some even say 15 years and he said 2 years which surprised koffi as it was the shortest period,and he told koffi that it was not a problem that they could just  renew after
and then the last day of his contract he called koffi to tell him he was not renewing and that he choses to move on and do something else and koffi later called him back to ask if he was sure of his choice, and he said yes he was ready to hustle like a man and face whatever happens and that he preferred leaving like that and keep his heart all the good and bad memories instead of talking and then being sent somebody to counter(our people is so complicated that he is getting backlash for that lol)
and he revealed that when he joined the group  there was concerts and especially one in lille where the musicians who were there before influenced cambodge to barely stand from the drums and make it as complicated for him as possible to play until koffi turned and realised that it was still cambodge playing while it was time for rumbas and titina was arguably the best of his generation for that and called him to come on stage and in the long run they managed to have a peaceful rotation with cambodge and at some point champion returned  and koffi said he should talk to both of them to see if they are okay with it,and he said he did not mind since koffi is the boss,and cambodge was radical in saying no
 he was asked about the legendary zenith of jb and he said they managed to perform at that level because they were all in a high level of focus and cohesion and that people did not even know that a part of his drumset was broken and that ironically it contributed to that sound
he was asked  if had to chose between returning to bcbg or returning to quartier latin and he said bcbg is family so it will be easy but quartier latin its a bit harder because there is less connection and there are factors he may want to avoid(which also caused backlash because of the title of the video )
 he was asked about the difference between jb and koffi in the way they handle their music he says jb will give an idea then allow the group to give their ideas(even though some will just be yes yes in order to avoid potential problems),but in the case of koffi he can let the band fully record something then when he comes to studio he singlehandedly decides to erase or modify some parts(i remember an anecdote of fofo le collegien about how he'd sometime let you play and go home then once he is there listening he turned to engineer moretti to order that he erases everything)

Looks like Titina mixed different trips and events which each other, but it's understandle since that it's year ago. For example, saying that they went to Cameroun with Suzuki before Bataclan, while that was before the Zenith-trip or when he said that there was no percussionist that Zenith and Seguin did everything, while there was Narcisse Konga.

Now I can finally close the chapter about if Champion's part got erased or not. However the version Titina said this time is different than the one he did with Pitchou Mangaya, where he claimed that Champion was also present during the mixing of Effrakata, when he joined, claiming that he walked angry away. But this version makes sense, because in the videos/concerts just before Effrakata (for example the concert in Bilbao), there's no Champion more. Cambodge version about Champion leaving was that he left the studio angry, when Koffi made Cambodge drum two generics and Champion not showing up anymore.  I think Titina also drummed in Ravisse next to Suivez le Guide, because the drumming style is different compared to the remaining sebene-songs. I suspect Fally and Jordan being behind it of saying to Cambodge to not give Titina any space. They were like a cartel, you had one of Bana Lemba (Binda, Felly and co) which less influential and the one of Bana Bandal (Fally and co). I wonder if Cambodge would get space if Champion rejoined in 2002. Looks like both guys still hates each other until this day

Titina's departure must have been a huge blow to Koffi, because Titina was very important in the artistic field, also it was shortly after the period that Fally and Ferre left.

He talked about how he joined 4X4 and the split and so on and that when he left bcbg after staff who wanted to endear themselves to jb made sure to break their wonderful relationship by gossiping to jb to lead to a point where relationship is very affected,he wanted first to retire from music and do something else then came the idea of an album and he was then approached to join quartier latin and it was part of his conditions to join to finish his album in the band and that koffi approached him because he was tired of champion's behavior so he came in studio and koffi asked to engineer to erase the drums from the 3 songs champion played and he played them instead and then he officially signed a contract years later,they started first with the entrance bonus and salary formula until at some point when ngulu affaire peaked embassies were asking for contracts in groups to give visas(i remember maison mere even showing contracts on tv lol with the indirect message of  now you cant complain because we showed contract that you are well paid lol)
 and koffi was asking musicians how many years of contract they want some even say 15 years and he said 2 years which surprised koffi as it was the shortest period,and he told koffi that it was not a problem that they could just  renew after
and then the last day of his contract he called koffi to tell him he was not renewing and that he choses to move on and do something else and koffi later called him back to ask if he was sure of his choice, and he said yes he was ready to hustle like a man and face whatever happens and that he preferred leaving like that and keep his heart all the good and bad memories instead of talking and then being sent somebody to counter(our people is so complicated that he is getting backlash for that lol)
and he revealed that when he joined the group  there was concerts and especially one in lille where the musicians who were there before influenced cambodge to barely stand from the drums and make it as complicated for him as possible to play until koffi turned and realised that it was still cambodge playing while it was time for rumbas and titina was arguably the best of his generation for that and called him to come on stage and in the long run they managed to have a peaceful rotation with cambodge and at some point champion returned  and koffi said he should talk to both of them to see if they are okay with it,and he said he did not mind since koffi is the boss,and cambodge was radical in saying no
 he was asked about the legendary zenith of jb and he said they managed to perform at that level because they were all in a high level of focus and cohesion and that people did not even know that a part of his drumset was broken and that ironically it contributed to that sound
he was asked  if had to chose between returning to bcbg or returning to quartier latin and he said bcbg is family so it will be easy but quartier latin its a bit harder because there is less connection and there are factors he may want to avoid(which also caused backlash because of the title of the video )
 he was asked about the difference between jb and koffi in the way they handle their music he says jb will give an idea then allow the group to give their ideas(even though some will just be yes yes in order to avoid potential problems),but in the case of koffi he can let the band fully record something then when he comes to studio he singlehandedly decides to erase or modify some parts(i remember an anecdote of fofo le collegien about how he'd sometime let you play and go home then once he is there listening he turned to engineer moretti to order that he erases everything)

So everything Champion did go erased and replaced by Titina/Cambodge? Even songs like Bilan, Washington, and Gilba? My lingala isn't the best, it was hard following the interview

Yes, Champion's part got erased and replaced by Titina partition's. Titina said that he just played 3 songs. Cambodge already participated since he was there from the start of the recordings

Yes, Champion's part got erased and replaced by Titina partition's. Titina said that he just played 3 songs. Cambodge already participated since he was there from the start of the recordings

Do you think Cambodge is a better drummer than Papy Kakol? I was having a debate with one of my cousins and they say that Kakol's strength was seben but he couldn't adapt to slower songs – Dju Dju Chet played rhumbas sections on Solola Bien and Kibusia.

I disagree, I've seen Kakol play Na Touché and Vita Imana live. If Dju Dju set-up the kit and coached him on techniques, he could have played drums for all parts of those albums. What's your opinion?