Author Topic: THE WARRIORS HAVE DECLARED WAR ON PDG JEAN MARIE KASSAMBA  (Read 1034 times)

Matebu on: May 19, 2025, 22:45

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Mokobe’s response: https://www.facebook.com/share/16Jn2Ar17L/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Here’s what JMK said to ignite the war:

 "You don't become a legend simply because you're successful or talented, or because you've played in a big venue. Fally Ipupa hasn't yet brought anything new to Congolese music to be crowned a legend. You can never put him on the same level as Koffi Olomide, Luambo Makiadi, and others. He's just a good artist, that's all. If I ask you to tell me what he has contributed to Congolese music, no one will give me a precise answer."

Based on the clip above he’s standing on business


He has a good point in some ways, but Fally is still evolving to that legend status. Damn… these warriors are more toxic that the WMM fanbase in the 2000’s - they’re spoiling all the Congo media outlets with derogatory comments. The complete lack of respect for Koffi/Ferre and anyone who’s perceived to be against Fally is has gone to extreme levels the past couple months, with the man himself subliminally encouraging it.

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CM PRINCE #1 on: May 19, 2025, 23:21

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I disagree Fally and Ferre are both legends in the genre. Without them two the genre would be completely dead. Also let’s be honest they’ve both had a longer run then Jb and Werra did, Jb from 1999 and he started slowing down around 2002 before completely going down in 2011, Werra from 1999 to 2014, whilst Fally and Ferre have been around since 2006 and are still going strong in 2025 with no signs of them slowing down.

It’s a bit unfair to compare to Koffi, Luamba and others because they’re each from different eras.

Lastly lol Matebu you must have a short memory or maybe your bias because no one will ever be more toxic then the WMM fans base in the 2000s they used to get violent and would  assault musicians and rival musicians by orders of guys like Kakol Heritier and co, the warriors are just online trolls.

archos #2 on: May 19, 2025, 23:24

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i think we are facing the least tolerant generation of congolese people ever,do these people realise that even michael jackson,elvis and co the supreme GOAT's had people who did not fancy them as much as others,its totally normal
the impact of mobutu and his entourage is still immense in the congolese way of thinking whether with the worship or with the way some images stuck in people's mind,so if you think starting from that you'll notice that most famous names of the history of DRC(seskul himself,sakombi,the artistic stars,edingwe and so on) really got the maximal recognition when they reached a certain age,so its still deep in some people's mind that a fairly young guy like a fally cant sit at the same table as our goats,because he is too young
we even see that sort of undervaluation with innoss b because weve seen him as a 13 year old kid he needs to prove himself until his 40's minimum to really get some proper recognition
JMK also stated in his second response that he acknowledges fally as a great african star and an artist that he likes and that he is known in some countries but not in the whole world like an elvis presley or a michael

Matebu #3 on: May 20, 2025, 01:00

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I disagree Fally and Ferre are both legends in the genre. Without them two the genre would be completely dead. Also let’s be honest they’ve both had a longer run then Jb and Werra did, Jb from 1999 and he started slowing down around 2002 before completely going down in 2011, Werra from 1999 to 2014, whilst Fally and Ferre have been around since 2006 and are still going strong in 2025 with no signs of them slowing down.

It’s a bit unfair to compare to Koffi, Luamba and others because they’re each from different eras.

Lastly lol Matebu you must have a short memory or maybe your bias because no one will ever be more toxic then the WMM fans base in the 2000s they used to get violent and would  assault musicians and rival musicians by orders of guys like Kakol Heritier and co, the warriors are just online trolls.

Haha, Masta Im able to appreciate music from everyone and give constructive criticism when the time applies, so no bias. Im not sure why others find that so difficult.

Touché on the WMM point though - heaven forbid you drove by playing JB or Koffi with your windows open. That alone could’ve landed you in the hospital in some regions.

The Warriors are an intricate bunch - mostly online trolls that refuse to have an open mind on artists to listen to due allegiances Fally has. Many have barely listened to music of the generation before the 2000’s, much less Tabu Ley/Franco/Kalle.  I know one lady - all she has in library is Fally songs, she refuses at add music from Ferre and co
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Mwanayaafrica #4 on: May 20, 2025, 01:05

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I disagree Fally and Ferre are both legends in the genre. Without them two the genre would be completely dead. Also let’s be honest they’ve both had a longer run then Jb and Werra did, Jb from 1999 and he started slowing down around 2002 before completely going down in 2011, Werra from 1999 to 2014, whilst Fally and Ferre have been around since 2006 and are still going strong in 2025 with no signs of them slowing down.

It’s a bit unfair to compare to Koffi, Luamba and others because they’re each from different eras.

Lastly lol Matebu you must have a short memory or maybe your bias because no one will ever be more toxic then the WMM fans base in the 2000s they used to get violent and would  assault musicians and rival musicians by orders of guys like Kakol Heritier and co, the warriors are just online trolls.

Haha, Masta Im able to appreciate music from everyone and give constructive criticism when the time applies, so no bias. Im sure why others find that so difficult.

Touché on the WMM point though - heaven forbid you drove by playing JB or Koffi with your windows open. That alone could’ve landed you in the hospital in some regions.

The Warriors are an intricate bunch - mostly online trolls that refuse to have an open mind on artists to listen to due allegiances Fally has. Many have barely listened to music of the generation before the 2000’s, much less Tabu Ley/Franco/Kalle.  I know one lady - all she has in library is Fally songs, she refuses at add music from Ferre and co
Can someone explain why some people act this way? Why do they have such strong attachments to musicians that they would beat someone up just for the smallest thing and worshiping their favorite musician like they are God.

archos #5 on: May 20, 2025, 01:18

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i have two nephews from the "large" family who i know said that they'd even sacrifice people for their fav artist and some wild takes like that,they aint seen me ever since loool,cant associate with people who dont even possess their own mind anymore because of fanatism

Manzambi94 #6 on: May 20, 2025, 11:03

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Mokobe’s response: https://www.facebook.com/share/16Jn2Ar17L/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Here’s what JMK said to ignite the war:

 "You don't become a legend simply because you're successful or talented, or because you've played in a big venue. Fally Ipupa hasn't yet brought anything new to Congolese music to be crowned a legend. You can never put him on the same level as Koffi Olomide, Luambo Makiadi, and others. He's just a good artist, that's all. If I ask you to tell me what he has contributed to Congolese music, no one will give me a precise answer."

Based on the clip above he’s standing on business


He has a good point in some ways, but Fally is still evolving to that legend status. Damn… these warriors are more toxic that the WMM fanbase in the 2000’s - they’re spoiling all the Congo media outlets with derogatory comments. The complete lack of respect for Koffi/Ferre and anyone who’s perceived to be against Fally is has gone to extreme levels the past couple months, with the man himself subliminally encouraging it.
The thing is, when Werra wanted to humiliate Celeo for asking for better conditions Werra did a massive mistake, he vouched for Fally, he was praising him a lot saying he was a true "children" of his father and always sending Sankara to humiliate Celeo for example by taking the hand of Brigade and raising it up to show he was the "winner" to Celeo and many other things but mainly Serra was always praising Fally, which gave Fally a super boost along with journalists who were sick of Koffi shenanigans and wanted to see Fally win, so once Werra's music wasn't as successful as before (Mayi Ya Sika for example, where the addition to Lobeso kinda fucked thst album up, because despite his parts being some of the most danced in parties in Europe WMMM Kin fans and the all time WMMM fans hated Lobeso style of bringing Mongo into a fast paced guitar based Ndombolo style like the Maison Mere one) all those toxic WMMM fans shifted to Warriors and Fally fans in general, buy these people who became Fally fans will never admit they were Werra fans before, and that's how the Warriors fan base got formed it is always ex Maison Mere fans who are now even bolder with their claims and their defense of a star. I bet Werra now still regrets giving Fally such free publicity for nothing in return, also because now you can see him openly acknowledging ex members like Fabregas, Celeo, Deplick and so on.

Manzambi94 #7 on: May 20, 2025, 11:10

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I disagree Fally and Ferre are both legends in the genre. Without them two the genre would be completely dead. Also let’s be honest they’ve both had a longer run then Jb and Werra did, Jb from 1999 and he started slowing down around 2002 before completely going down in 2011, Werra from 1999 to 2014, whilst Fally and Ferre have been around since 2006 and are still going strong in 2025 with no signs of them slowing down.

It’s a bit unfair to compare to Koffi, Luamba and others because they’re each from different eras.

Lastly lol Matebu you must have a short memory or maybe your bias because no one will ever be more toxic then the WMM fans base in the 2000s they used to get violent and would  assault musicians and rival musicians by orders of guys like Kakol Heritier and co, the warriors are just online trolls.

Haha, Masta Im able to appreciate music from everyone and give constructive criticism when the time applies, so no bias. Im sure why others find that so difficult.

Touché on the WMM point though - heaven forbid you drove by playing JB or Koffi with your windows open. That alone could’ve landed you in the hospital in some regions.

The Warriors are an intricate bunch - mostly online trolls that refuse to have an open mind on artists to listen to due allegiances Fally has. Many have barely listened to music of the generation before the 2000’s, much less Tabu Ley/Franco/Kalle.  I know one lady - all she has in library is Fally songs, she refuses at add music from Ferre and co
Can someone explain why some people act this way? Why do they have such strong attachments to musicians that they would beat someone up just for the smallest thing and worshiping their favorite musician like they are God.
It is due to escapism, let's say you have a boring jobb or in a lot of cases In Congo no job at all, or difficult conditions,  then you see this rich guy who does music, is rich and does songs that makes you not think about your life, you will ride for him, you will die for him and do whatever he asks, that's where the crazy loyalty comes from, plus there is also something that a guy from England I think explained, and he explained specifically on how the IPhone and Apple specifically  was able and it is still able to make people buy into the Apple hype



Watch both videos



Closing on the topic for example look at Argentina,  they are probably one of the poorest nation economically, they have had defaulted a lot of times a d the value of their value, always flips and make the value worthless but somehow Boca Juniors and River Plate stadiums are always full