Author Topic: THERE’S A SMALL EXTRACT OF WERRA’S SCRAPPED MIRACLES GENERIQUE WITH BILL  (Read 421 times)

CM PRINCE on: June 30, 2026, 21:58

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If you listen carefully It’s similar to Alerte Générale and Bill is doing the tokomela crie. One of the biggest what if

Mfumu Vata #1 on: June 30, 2026, 22:28

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Miracles would have been definitely a banger if Bill, Ferre and Jus d'Ete didn't leave. However, I think that in this video, Gauthier Mascotte was listening to the CD of one of Maison Mère's concerts in Kinshasa, just as people used to have different CDs and audio-cassettes of concerts held in Kinshasa. I used to have a copied CD at home of Werrason's concert in Masina of 2003 (I think I may still have it at home, but I am not sure). I also had a CD of one of Werrason's concerts in Angola in 2002 with Bill Clinton animating Lumumba (the one that he used to do at Madeleine 2002), before the concert at Stade des Martyrs.

I don't believe that it was an extract of Miracles-generique, because at that time they didn't start recording yet and also Werrason was busy to find producers for his solo-album as Jean Pierre Saah's label JPS Production closed. Ir was Celeo who used to do the cri of the "payez, plier plier" during concerts. He used to talk about it often in interviews, explaining that it was one of the cri's he would do in Miracles. Bill Clinton was often doing the "Kimbongila", "Yo tein" and "Ba Yankee bayaka na kundu" cri's.

If you listen well to the drums of Kakol from that sound, you will hear that the audio is from a concert
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masatomo #2 on: July 04, 2026, 21:16

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Miracles would have been definitely a banger if Bill, Ferre and Jus d'Ete didn't leave. However, I think that in this video, Gauthier Mascotte was listening to the CD of one of Maison Mère's concerts in Kinshasa, just as people used to have different CDs and audio-cassettes of concerts held in Kinshasa. I used to have a copied CD at home of Werrason's concert in Masina of 2003 (I think I may still have it at home, but I am not sure). I also had a CD of one of Werrason's concerts in Angola in 2002 with Bill Clinton animating Lumumba (the one that he used to do at Madeleine 2002), before the concert at Stade des Martyrs.

I don't believe that it was an extract of Miracles-generique, because at that time they didn't start recording yet and also Werrason was busy to find producers for his solo-album as Jean Pierre Saah's label JPS Production closed. Ir was Celeo who used to do the cri of the "payez, plier plier" during concerts. He used to talk about it often in interviews, explaining that it was one of the cri's he would do in Miracles. Bill Clinton was often doing the "Kimbongila", "Yo tein" and "Ba Yankee bayaka na kundu" cri's.

If you listen well to the drums of Kakol from that sound, you will hear that the audio is from a concert


I would like to know which songs of Miracles ended up being in Témoignage. Is it true Ton Regard & Miss Margot were scheduled for Miracles ? I know Amour Intérêt,  Wabelo, Na Touché, Demi Tour were part of the original tracklist too. I always asked myself how the album would sound with the golden Maison Mere.

It's a shame Baby Ndombe was suspended. When i watch the concerts from October 2003 to the split of May 2004 i really feel his absence. That's my impression. The public must have been shocked at the time. Am I wrong ?

Mfumu Vata #3 on: July 04, 2026, 21:31

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I have no idea. I just know the song that Werrason ended up by dedicating to Aziz Makukula was among the tracks that they were already preparing within the team of Ferre. Bill Clinton sung it on his first solo-album Kizoba-Zoba. It created some debates because Temoignage and Kizoba-zoba came out in the same month. However Werrason's version is different because they modified the lyrics a bit and singers adding vocals