Thank you archos, but I have one more important question for Titanic I know plans were made in Paris for titanic album, pre wenge split it was planned that Jb Mpiana would make an solo album again and before feux de l'amour, wenge musica was planning to a group was that meant to be titanic originally and was the songs of titanic made before the split because I remember some dances well infact all part of montre moi the rest was called before wenge split so that means titanic was supposed to be made already or what??? please help me with some background of the album Please!!!

The generique was made before the split and the guitar partitions were made by Mboka Liya and Japonais, it is the reason why Japonais played the same solo guitar partitions at the start of the generique Force Intervention Rapide. The rest of the songs on that album were by individual members who went with JB Mpiana to form Wenge BCBG so some may have started composing and rehearsing before the break up of Wenge Maison Mére but that is less important, no one claimed credit from Wenge Musica Maison Mére and Werrason's Maison Mére apart from Japonais who had a hand on the Titanic generique itself as mentioned above so Titanic was a Wenge BCBG album.

DJ Sly, I know that Japonaise composed Ndombolo ya Solo guitar licks? Did he played it during recording sessions or it was Makaba, and I would like also to know who composed Pentagon and  and  guitar licks?

DJ Sly, I know that Japonaise composed Ndombolo ya Solo guitar licks? Did he played it during recording sessions or it was Makaba, and I would like also to know who composed Pentagon and  and  guitar licks?

As far as am aware based on interviews, it was Japonais himself who composed the guitar partitions and he recorded in studio on that particular generique,at the time Japonais was like the new kid on the block, the Flamme Kapaya of that time with a completely style of playing from what Makaba used to play but then he calmed down as at Station Japana he was more aggressive on the guitar.

I believe Makaba came back much later from Europe and played some of the other songs.

I just hope jb puts patou solo on the market. kipala kipala kisonzako is not enough. he is being wasted.

Archos, based on the guitar styles and guitar sound that clan Wenge soloists have as standard for their identity, here is how I think the soloist credits are for Titanic

Titanic Generique - Created By Mboka Liya & partly Japonais but played entirely by Mboka Liya (remember Japonais played the same intro solo on Intervention Rapide)
RDC- Played by Makaba
Barakuda- Played by Makaba
Omba- Played by Makaba
Proces Mambika- Played by Makaba or could be Mboka Liya
Likala Moto- Played by Alain Makaba
Tour Eifeel - Played by Maitre Ficarré
Surprise Kapangala - Played by Alain Makaba
Liberation - Played by Mboka Liya
Serge Palmi - Played by Mboka Liya

sly you are right about generique but rdc its mboka,on rdc makaba played keyboards and sung
and mambika hundred per cent certain its mbokaliya,makaba allowed mboka a lot of space in titanic because he appreciated him a lot,ficarré would  not have participated if not for blaise and titina insisting so that he gets a song on lead

sly you are right about generique but rdc its mboka,on rdc makaba played keyboards and sung
and mambika hundred per cent certain its mbokaliya,makaba allowed mboka a lot of space in titanic because he appreciated him a lot,ficarré would  not have participated if not for blaise and titina insisting so that he gets a song on lead

Yeah, I wasn't very sure on Mambika so it could be Mboka as you say.

Thank you archos, but I have one more important question for Titanic I know plans were made in Paris for titanic album, pre wenge split it was planned that Jb Mpiana would make an solo album again and before feux de l'amour, wenge musica was planning to a group was that meant to be titanic originally and was the songs of titanic made before the split because I remember some dances well infact all part of montre moi the rest was called before wenge split so that means titanic was supposed to be made already or what??? please help me with some background of the album Please!!!

yes the generique of titanic was meant to be the generique of future  wenge musica album,aswell as omba,mambika,chantal which was originally sold to adolphe by pascal poba,freddy movadi kibens sold to werra long ago, there were many songs they had rehearsed even before feux de l'amour studio sessions,aimelia would not have got a song if they stayed together,same for christian mabanga
the original plan was 13 songs most of them composed by kibens and pascal poba but there was an argument between makaba and masela because masela was the administrator who was allowed the smallest number of songs
then when their relationship went very bad and the split happened,jb makaba and bula kept their songs plus the ones of mpela,titina,and later mbokaliya and aimelia
if you notice well,ferre reproduced jb's vocal of liberation in pdg makambo because pdg makambo was prepared already in wenge musica so werra tata and masela made ferre repeat it since he was "their jb"
japonais was replacing makaba who had settled in europe,mboka who was too unpredictable and ficarré who was not good enough to be number 1

DJ Sly, I know that Japonaise composed Ndombolo ya Solo guitar licks? Did he played it during recording sessions or it was Makaba, and I would like also to know who composed Pentagon and  and  guitar licks?

It was makaba who played it in studio, but japonais was next to him and if i recall well played ml-solo on that song,both co-arranged album with arranger al nzimbi
as for pentagone,  its ficarré who played in studio  with a bit of help from  mbokaliya

Ok, another question Archos, soon after the release of Titanic, Wenge BCBG toured Tanzania without Makaba and Blaise Bula, when asked on their whereabouts Jb, said that they are in Paris recording their album and they will soon rejoin the group, which didn't happen, what forced the two duos out?   

Ok, another question Archos, soon after the release of Titanic, Wenge BCBG toured Tanzania without Makaba and Blaise Bula, when asked on their whereabouts Jb, said that they are in Paris recording their album and they will soon rejoin the group, which didn't happen, what forced the two duos out?

leadership issues,blaise started preparing another group at home while being bcbg's chef d'orchestre,makaba did not  like the new configuration of bcbg with more than 4 singers and so on and like in the case of werra,jb had to elimlinate fellow administrators to remain the only leader who controls everyting

what was the argument between masela and makaba abut archos, whts the full story of wenge frm after pentagone till the split

there was no conflict between masela and makaba at least no strong conlifct
thanks for reminding me of that story i thin i will do it once i finish the two unfinished biographies i have

Archos do u by chance know what the album was supposed to be named?u said it was supposed to have 13 songs:how many songs by Jb,Werra,Makaba?and last...Everybody seems to forgt about him,Robert Ekokota...was he supposed to participate in it?i remember an interview with him shortly after his accident that he was joining the band back..till today!why isn't he back?   

archos iam still waiting on the story of pentagone and the split thanks