Author Topic: JDL SAYS THERE ARE TOO MANY RUMBAS PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT SEBENE  (Read 18981 times)

Mwana Nsalu #15 on: March 19, 2015, 07:23

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i feel this fvicteam album is to bridge the gap between the newer generation and older generations that prefer a particular sound. the sebene while basic is still perfect and undeniable. if you do not enjoy it then i have to wonder and check your pulse to see if you're alive. the sebenes on libre parcours are great and they are the best songs on the album to me.

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #16 on: March 19, 2015, 07:59

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Sly, what are you talking about?? How can a album be a classic but not be exciting?? And the sebene was really good and the soloists did their work.
Read my statement properly, am saying there hasn't been so much excitement on the market like we usually have when an album is about to be released and when it's finally released. So far I haven't seen any video of people queuing up to buy it at Chateu Rouge or the other places where people usually people eagerly gather when an album is just released.

The album is a classic because not only have the guys brought back sebene, they have also brought back memories of old animation and dances and fused everything so well.
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Jdog #17 on: March 19, 2015, 15:23

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Sly, so all you have to do to make a classic album to is to use old animation dances which are classics?  Just because a lot of people don't pack a part of town to buy something that doesn't mean that product is bad. And there has been a couple of videos where people who brought the album where talking about the album. Many people have brought the album digitally then the physical copy of the album.   
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SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #18 on: March 19, 2015, 17:19

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kapaya and his copycats have spoiled you with extra fast solos loooooool
kiekiekie, yes indeed, I believe soloists should have variations in the guitar partitions. If you listen to the 3rd generique,Felly Dimbedi only played 3 rhythms. Although Alvarito is number 3 in my hierarchy of the best soloists in F'Victeam,i find that he created better solo partitions on the generique he played but the more aggressive one is Le Petit Kurukuru even though he didn't create as much on his generique either this time around.
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SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #19 on: March 19, 2015, 17:24

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Sly, so all you have to do to make a classic album to is to use old animation dances which are classics?  Just because a lot of people don't pack a part of town to buy something that doesn't mean that product is bad. And there has been a couple of videos where people who brought the album where talking about the album. Many people have brought the album digitally then the physical copy of the album.
I don't know why you're struggling to understand me.
Am going with the original definition of classic which means outstanding amongst the rest.
The album is different from what we are used to from Fally and on the market,it was a complete surprise and that makes it a classic album.
To measure success there are various methods used, first being primary research through direct feedback including from those buying and sampling the album and also from comments on youtube and how patrons respond to the music in clubs etc. We usually see videos of fans celebrating when an album is out, there has been less buzz on this one but it's too early to judge however it remains a classic.
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archos #20 on: March 19, 2015, 17:32

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i just wanted to put a little part about the reception,i think it was totally normal that it went "quiet" by the recent standards of ingeta and co,album was released on a tuesday,and it was album of fally's group which many people still did not take seriously
if it was fally himself, i am sure it would have a been at least a bit different,especially when you know that some fans dont mind risking to be fired from missing at work to welcome  jb,werra,fally,ferre at airport when they come so they woult not mind buying cds on a tuesday either i think

EMOVICTEAM #21 on: March 19, 2015, 19:46

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kapaya and his copycats have spoiled you with extra fast solos loooooool
kiekiekie, yes indeed, I believe soloists should have variations in the guitar partitions. If you listen to the 3rd generique,Felly Dimbedi only played 3 rhythms. Although Alvarito is number 3 in my hierarchy of the best soloists in F'Victeam,i find that he created better solo partitions on the generique he played but the more aggressive one is Le Petit Kurukuru even though he didn't create as much on his generique either this time around.

The way Sly respects such guitarists,  is the way I like drummers that hit hard. Seeee?

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #22 on: March 19, 2015, 20:46

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The way Sly respects such guitarists,  is the way I like drummers that hit hard. Seeee?
I think there's a difference, you like drummers to hit the snare drum harder whilst on my part I want soloists to be more creative, you cannot play two rhythms/partitions throughout a sebene, there has to be variation otherwise it gets boring.
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archos #23 on: March 19, 2015, 21:01

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one thing about le petit's generique he has had to adapt to that kabuya animation about his past lifestyle which they used in almost all generiques and sebene songs and the specific solo for that was created by alvarito
 notice how its the only part of the generique where he is kinda monotonous,even alvarito falls into that problem in the other parts he plays it apart from generique
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SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #24 on: March 19, 2015, 21:17

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Ah, so it's Alvarito who created the partitions. It good Le Petit was the one that actually played and he did very well, if only he had added more partitions otherwise it's still fine and it's obvious it's Le Petit's style of playing that made the team make it generique #1.
I think what you've said about the album having been released mid-week and being sceptical about the album makes sense as to why people were quiet.
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archos #25 on: March 19, 2015, 21:31

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SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #26 on: March 19, 2015, 22:26

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EMOVICTEAM #27 on: March 20, 2015, 10:34

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The way Sly respects such guitarists,  is the way I like drummers that hit hard. Seeee?
I think there's a difference, you like drummers to hit the snare drum harder whilst on my part I want soloists to be more creative, you cannot play two rhythms/partitions throughout a sebene, there has to be variation otherwise it gets boring.

No, snare, asymbol and drum set, all should be hit hard....not just the snare. Secondly, its the style that matters which segiun is poor at. My favourites so far are kakol, titina and champion.

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #28 on: March 20, 2015, 14:28

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No, snare, asymbol and drum set, all should be hit hard....not just the snare. Secondly, its the style that matters which segiun is poor at. My favourites so far are kakol, titina and champion.
I think you have to live with it coz no matter how much you complain things will not change for as long as Seguin remains JB's first ''son'' and mostly so if JB keeps recording in cheap studios because it's the sound arrangement which is bad in BCBG's music otherwise Seguin is a good drummer.
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