Ferre was good then but the thing is like sometimes he was shouting he didn't have that calmness with the way he was singing for example when Manda went one concert of Maison Mere singing he was just calm and composed and then when you hear Ferre it's like his shouting but sooner he matured listen to La Vie a Zero that's when he really became better some calmness instead of shouting but even before pre- a la queue leu leu his voice is just terrific