from 46th minutes he says he feels sorry for those who have high natural abilities and who still think its witchcraft which will make them succeed and say those who do it may lack a lot in terms of self belief
he gives example of some boxers who already knock people out easily but go to see sorcerers and he wonders if their goal is to kill people as boxing is a bit violent but remains a "game" and he gives example of one of his bodyguards who is there with him and say he is already very strong without witchcraft and he would never advise him to do it
he reveals,without naming him,that one day he was at hotel with jb(in equatorial guinea) and jb was openly talking to him about his witchcraft and jb told him that his dad was very rich and when he died a strong spiritual war started within the family because of his big financial legacy and it lead to some of his brothers and sisters being killed through witchcraft by some members of the family to have possibility to inherit more,so he had to see sorcerers to protect himself from attacks and that this could be a "understandable" reason of doing it