Author Topic: KINDOKI (WITCHCRAFT) IN CONGOLESE MUSIC... LET'S SPEAK OUT.  (Read 5789 times)

Manzambi94 on: October 06, 2016, 13:24

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Zobozi recently have gone away and even though the autopsy hasn't been revealed yet everybody in Congolese world said is Koffi spirtual's attack.
It is true ? Who knows.
But We have to do something to stop all this kindoki stuff, as fans, because is killing the pureness of our music, even though I was sceptical, the Wenge Musica case (sacrifing the Life of a member for their huge success), Lacoste (Sacrifies for his First and second album) JB, Ferrè (Spiritual help for their albums) and the other names who did something spiritual for their success really give me headache, the question is whole the music I have is my iPhone is due to some death or killing of a human being??
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archos #1 on: October 06, 2016, 13:34

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 Music in itself is not  the problem,the problem is what use is done of it, a lot of albums are released after ceremonies,animations or lyrics  given by witchdoctors and so on
i remember in the  past i used to have a friend of my older brother who used to do satanism because he was a wrestler then went religious and when he came to our house then  he was touching cds and telling us" this cd has no work done on it" or " this cd is programmed to be a big bomb"
the impact of the songs on ourselves is difficult to truly assess because there are some guys  who are totally normal despite listening to it,some have developped addiction to those songs or even  totally worshipping those artists,some have completely lost it and so on..
we all have  different ways to react to it,and it does not destroy everything unless the person is way too weak but a lot of lyrics are suspected to sing because its actually prayers
for example,myself when i am chilling at home and singing songs or animation when i find something strange i skip it i only sing what is in perfectly understandable lingala or other language and which does not seem like a hidden message
it wont stop the current generation is surely by far the least patient one so they are going very far hoping to advance very quick even though they are warned that it would reduce their lifetime they dont care all they want is to become legends like jb werra koffi in half less career
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Toolz #2 on: October 07, 2016, 00:37

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A very down to earth contribution there,Archos! God bless you real good! There is no point trying to call black white when it is obviously black! This present generation wants to get rich and famous quick so they would go to any length to get it. The past generations went to the extreme too in their search for fame and wealth , they ended it in ignominy. And those of the past generation who have been 'too strong' to die have become monsters while alive.That is not enough for this generation to learn from; they have also taken theirs several miles further.
What is/was a God-given gift/blessing has become a tool in the hand of Satan.
As much as I love music to bits, I always seek to know the meaning of whatever I am listening to/singing once I know it is not sung in any of the languages I understand.

Jdog #3 on: October 07, 2016, 05:47

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Me personally as a Christian I would prefer that people just don't use it because it's evil and causes a lot of harm. It would be better for them to wait for the fame and fortune then get it right away and be on the path to hell which is eternal.
Or moto asala le monde eza yo Nzambe tata, Kita okata po mokili trop matata, kata- Fally Ipupa

Manzambi94 #4 on: October 07, 2016, 16:58

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I hope something will change in the mind of congolese people to stop supporting this behaviour so we could have a clean music.

CM PRINCE #5 on: October 07, 2016, 20:06

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to be honest i'm still not 100% about this witchcraft like why use it to be successful I thought the way to be a success is cause your music is great smh

archos #6 on: October 11, 2016, 15:29

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this video explains a lot about witchcraft,it ystarts with how koffi taunted fally that he sacrificed his parents in a song,he says for example that lacoste is a much better singer than fabregas,same as kabose,but both are behind because fabregas does much more sacrifices
if a musician offers you clothes you must be careful because it can well be a way of destroying you,and thats what koffi did to the likes of shora mbemba  or traditional singer isiro  or they can also attack through women(alluding how koffi attacked karmapa through tatiana)
for him what motivates the guys to do witchcraft is the fact they want things very fast,if their name is known a bit they will accept satanism so that they reach fame supposedly quicker than a guy who has nothing,and the impact on fans is difficult to assess as most fans just enjoy the music but he reveals that many of the songs are  done or re worked with satanic inspiration to add some parts which will make people go crazy
 he is asked whether the phenomenon was worse back in the days he was younger and being in zaiko and empire,but he replies its actually worse now because nowadays sacrificing somebody is as easy as just giving clothes you did prayers on to your nephew or children and  telling to go do something outside and that children would be sacrificed through an accident so the young guys do not fear at all unlike him for example when he had their age proof with the stories of fabregas sacrificing many members of his family
 he then goes back to zaiko days saying the split of zaiko was due to the fact that when zaiko's founder dv moanda who was in charge of everything spiritual in the group died they called musicians to take over from him and all feared  and jossart did it and then those who went to create familia dei wanted to get same financial rewards from jossart and they were told if they want to benefit like him they must play the game
he says in some groups some guys are not the most talented but since they do sacrifices for the group they have alot of advantages than talented guys who remain christian or muslim or whatever
he says if those guys know what would be their life after death surely they would fear it because surely they'd get punished very very hard so he advises young guys to avoid satanism because deaths of satanists are very very though spiritually,we will all die but its better to die with a peaceful heart
then he says in some groups there are admins who do the dirty job for leader and they are rewarded with europe tours for example and the day they leave it affects the career of the musician and its the same thing for many gospel artists
 he talks about some of the conditions those musicians have like having their wife leaving in another house and just coming sometimes as the rest of the time their husband deals with sirens,some only eat food prepared by their mothers, many accept to sleep with men for success...

Jdog #7 on: October 12, 2016, 08:12

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this video explains a lot about witchcraft,it ystarts with how koffi taunted fally that he sacrificed his parents in a song,he says for example that lacoste is a much better singer than fabregas,same as kabose,but both are behind because fabregas does much more sacrifices
if a musician offers you clothes you must be careful because it can well be a way of destroying you,and thats what koffi did to the likes of shora mbemba  or traditional singer isiro  or they can also attack through women(alluding how koffi attacked karmapa through tatiana)
for him what motivates the guys to do witchcraft is the fact they want things very fast,if their name is known a bit they will accept satanism so that they reach fame supposedly quicker than a guy who has nothing,and the impact on fans is difficult to assess as most fans just enjoy the music but he reveals that many of the songs are  done or re worked with satanic inspiration to add some parts which will make people go crazy
 he is asked whether the phenomenon was worse back in the days he was younger and being in zaiko and empire,but he replies its actually worse now because nowadays sacrificing somebody is as easy as just giving clothes you did prayers on to your nephew or children and  telling to go do something outside and that children would be sacrificed through an accident so the young guys do not fear at all unlike him for example when he had their age proof with the stories of fabregas sacrificing many members of his family
 he then goes back to zaiko days saying the split of zaiko was due to the fact that when zaiko's founder dv moanda who was in charge of everything spiritual in the group died they called musicians to take over from him and all feared  and jossart did it and then those who went to create familia dei wanted to get same financial rewards from jossart and they were told if they want to benefit like him they must play the game
he says in some groups some guys are not the most talented but since they do sacrifices for the group they have alot of advantages than talented guys who remain christian or muslim or whatever
he says if those guys know what would be their life after death surely they would fear it because surely they'd get punished very very hard so he advises young guys to avoid satanism because deaths of satanists are very very though spiritually,we will all die but its better to die with a peaceful heart
then he says in some groups there are admins who do the dirty job for leader and they are rewarded with europe tours for example and the day they leave it affects the career of the musician and its the same thing for many gospel artists
 he talks about some of the conditions those musicians have like having their wife leaving in another house and just coming sometimes as the rest of the time their husband deals with sirens,some only eat food prepared by their mothers, many accept to sleep with men for success...
Koffi really taunted Fally over his parents? And how would Koffi attack Karmapa if Tatiana never joined QL or Koffi Central
Or moto asala le monde eza yo Nzambe tata, Kita okata po mokili trop matata, kata- Fally Ipupa

Matebu #8 on: October 12, 2016, 08:52

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Koffi really taunted Fally over his parents? And how would Koffi attack Karmapa if Tatiana never joined QL or Koffi Central

I despise these sorts of silly rumors... but at the beginning of his tenure in QL he lost both his parents, so naturally rivals said he did that to quickly assure the top spot within QL. When Fally & Koffi were deep in their feud, Koffi brought that back and hinted in one or two interviews (without actually saying it); stating that Fally is a type that would sacrifice close relatives for success.

archos #9 on: October 12, 2016, 12:21

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jdog from what i heard from various of my sources koffi saw tatiana several times and as she was reluctant to join and play second-fiddle to cindy "at least" accepted to do something for koffi against karmapa then started missing rehearsals and concerts of karmapa all of a sudden;and karmapa who seemingly understood something was going on said in an interview "even if your children stabs you in your back he will remain your children forever so i forgive her and wish her good luck"