Stop being such a blind Stan werra clearly sends sankara cause if he didn't he'd have fired him long ago, like koffi did with kisindjora and others when they went on tv to talk about wazekwa and others or like fally did with tresor kongolo

Same Koffi who sent Kirikou & Chikito to talk shit about Ferre? No one is an angel in these beefings. Ferre sends Marc House to do it too. Watta does the same. Koffi does it. We shouldn't use different standards to judge Werra & Sankara

Stop being such a blind Stan werra clearly sends sankara cause if he didn't he'd have fired him long ago, like koffi did with kisindjora and others when they went on tv to talk about wazekwa and others or like fally did with tresor kongolo

Same Koffi who sent Kirikou & Chikito to talk shit about Ferre? No one is an angel in these beefings. Ferre sends Marc House to do it too. Watta does the same. Koffi does it. We shouldn't use different standards to judge Werra & Sankara

Lol you maison mere fans are still talking?

Maison Mere fans are the most stupidest fans I have ever seen...their way of thinking is so stupid and unbelievable.

Don't be sarcastic dumbass...if you wanna go that way i personally i can be equal to it. Why can't you argue maturely based on facts rather than resorting to sarcasm. Stop flexing your muscles behind the key board defend your points wisely young bully

What does this argument have to do with Werra trying to recruit Manda Chante. I’m lost...

You've been here long enough & should have gotten used to it by now  Every post about Werra & Maison Mere will always end up with an argument about Werra not paying his musicians & Werra not being able to sing

Which is why the moderators created a Private Werrason & Maison Mere forum for this very purpose. Let’s get back to shit that actually has a bearing on our lives: The Music. 

Werra should be the one giving reconnaissance to his ex colleagues, because he wasn't paying them first and foremost secondly because they stuck with him even though administration did whole ti keep those 2003 guys unpayed,

How did they survive all these years if they didn't earn from being Maison Mere members? Some of these arguments are so full of bile and don't really make sense. Why didn't they leave earlier? One way or another they earned from being in Maison Mere & when they felt that they could earn more they left. It definitely was a mutual benefiting relationship.

you work your ass off for a guy who cannot even sing (Werrason can't sing this is why he keeps on that tika bana ba yemba)

Here we go again with the "Werra can't sing" line. So fresh. Never gets old. SMH Franco was not the best singer of his generation but he made great music that we still enjoy to date. JB Mpiana was one of the best singer & voices in his generation but BCBG has been stuck in a rut for almost a decade. Babia Ndonga was one of the best voices & singers of QLI and indeed DRC but he didn't make much of himself outside QLI. Bro, there's much more to music than the ability to be a flamboyant vocalist.

if.it.wasn't for.the group Werra with be just a street band sir making songs about food

LOL. Werra & Maison Mere are still the top guys in Congolese music years and years after those guys left. But you are here still telling yourself that without that group, Werra would be nothing. You forget that it was a group he put together by design and not by accident. he has reassembled his band 3  or 4 times after that

Ferre, Fabregas, even Robinio make more views, money and album sales now in confront of Werra who got a comeback only bdcause of 7 Jours.

I've seen fantastic music like Manda's Socrate which barely has 100k views while Fally's Eloko Oyo is headed to 45M views. Youtube views is not the correct benchmark for what is good music or who is a greater artist. Many of these artists with youtube views cannot even pull half a concert hall outside DRC while Werra still attracts crowds wherever he goes.
And if Werra got a "comeback only because of 7 Jours" who should get the credit for that success? Oh wait... Anyone else but not Werra.


I just don't understand the bile against Werra especially in this forum. Werra is not faultless. But he is not the devil people try to paint him here.

Kiadi eh, have you ever read some of the older post? Werra is the stingiest leader and are donors who pay musicians 100% of the time unless musicians ask Werra himself. Everyone knows this even the rocks, it is not normal in my mind for a guy to don't pay the musicians and expect loyalty and respect



For the Franco Werra comparison, wow, are you really comparing Franco and werra? Franco and Tabu Ley are the reason why Congolese music was so much famous abroad not surely Wetra and Franco is waaaay more better to sing then Werra,



For the reassembling band, if he wasn't so stingy and self center no one would have left, reassembling a band it is not a good thing Werra of today is like a 4 to 10 level respect to thw one of Bill, Heritier and etc who was a 10 on 10.

And yes Werra is to credit for the comeback of 7 Jours but that's the only Album who has been relevant since A La Queue Leu Leu the only one, I am not trying to make Werra a bad man, I am a Werrasonik myself, and i follow wenge since the Solola Bien era when i had 7 I have griwn up to his muaic and the Koffi one so I know what I am talking about it, Werra really do not care abkut anything hut himself and his power, howcome he cannot speak to Heritier? After Heritier tried everything to be in good contact wtih him? JB might take even 110 years for an album but everytime he dropps something people will listen, JB really care about his people the only bad in that band is Seguin and his two friends while Wenge level through the time got mediocre which singer can be seen as thw top vocalist in Wenge now? And are you sure Werra get recognized everywhere? Let's make Werra make a worldwide tour and see hiw many noncongolese white, arab, asian, and latino eople show to his concerts. If I criticize Werra it is not because i hate him but because I am a fan and this Wenge will not go anywhere with this system it is normal to change people every year

Kiadi eh, have you ever read some of the older post? Werra is the stingiest leader and are donors who pay musicians 100% of the time unless musicians ask Werra himself. Everyone knows this even the rocks, it is not normal in my mind for a guy to don't pay the musicians and expect loyalty and respect

Still doesn't explain why they still stayed in the band for 7-10 years without income. There was a mutual benefit for both. And I'm not advocating for non payment of musicians or law of the jungle in band management.

For the Franco Werra comparison, wow, are you really comparing Franco and werra? Franco and Tabu Ley are the reason why Congolese music was so much famous abroad not surely Wetra and Franco is waaaay more better to sing then Werra,

Not comparing Franco & Werra in any way. If you read through you definitely understood that my point is there is so much more to being a musician than being able to sing. Werra is not the greatest of singers, so what? Does that make him a bad musician if he can still produce good music?

For the reassembling band, if he wasn't so stingy and self center no one would have left, reassembling a band it is not a good thing Werra of today is like a 4 to 10 level respect to thw one of Bill, Heritier and etc who was a 10 on 10.

Everyone loses musicians. Wazekwa, Koffi, Ferre, Karmapa, even the JB whom you claim is very good to his musicians. There'll always be a reason for musicians to leave.
Bill & Co would still have left either way. If not for money it will have been for something else. It's the way of the business. About Werra being 4/10, that's an opinion not a fact. Everyone is entitled to theirs.

 

Let's make Werra make a worldwide tour and see hiw many noncongolese white, arab, asian, and latino eople show to his concerts. If I criticize Werra it is not because i hate him but because I am a fan and this Wenge will not go anywhere with this system it is normal to change people every year

Hehehe. You are taking things too far bro. Which Congolese artist can get Arabs, Latinos and Asians to come for their concerts? Let's take it easy on Werra aisee.

About Werra not speaking to Herritier. Who says he must? Just let Heritier do his thing & let Werra do his thing. They don't even have to like each other in my opinion. And if talking is so important, Werra talks to Fabro & Robinho. Is that not good enough or must he just talk to Heritier & Ferre? I don't get it

Maison Mere fans are the most stupidest fans I have ever seen...their way of thinking is so stupid and unbelievable.

This response alone makes you the smartest guy in the room. Congratulations!!

Zamunda Fally made a concert in Maroc and got golden and platinum disc in France you have said let's see how many people know Werra internationally and that is what being worldwide international about, I mean why don' you accept that Werra is not tge best leader? I spoke abkut Heritier because Werra with his words said that Heritier is at the same level of Gladys and Exaucee he is my son, and now he doesn't talk to him?
Zamunda to me is unthinkable that a muscian doesn't pay his artist, JB pays, Koffi, pays, Wazekwa pays, Ferre pays, even Heritier pays, and Fally pays musicians even though it is not much in western standars guess who is ome of.the leader who doesn't pay on regular? Werra, believe me if Wenge doesn't make a change all the little grouos like Robinio, Ibrator and so will be more famous then Werra

werra also does pay bro but not on strict monthly basis and ALL of them in groups do complain in private,whatever they get is never enough for the pressure they have on their shoulders,you can for example find a dancer of a group who pays scholarship of 6 brothers and you know the system in DRC if you dont bribe the guys and pay some pointless extra fees aswell as the normal fees,passing exams is almost a miracle
maison mere happens to be a very special group which has been built on the basis of building strong units to destroy rivals and that implies big egos aswell so outside leaving for money like in every group at some point when there are too much egos in the group it ends up in many leaving,you'll notice maison mere is quite and cool when there is a new cycle,then when that cycle starts to reach the next step things start,apart from the money issues which frustrate in any group
the coexisting is cool when they are all fighting for the same cause at the beginning and like zamunda rightfully said when advantage is still mutual then when musicians get confidence that they have evolved either ego turns against the leader or between themselves to dominate each other
like for example now,new cycle,you have the odd guy here and there leaving because kakol and makaba are not putting him on concert lists but without any big fuss but that it

Maison Mere fans are the most stupidest fans I have ever seen...their way of thinking is so stupid and unbelievable.

This response alone makes you the smartest guy in the room. Congratulations!!

no, it makes me the most honest. so thank you

Maison Mere fans are the most stupidest fans I have ever seen...their way of thinking is so stupid and unbelievable.

This response alone makes you the smartest guy in the room. Congratulations!!

no, it makes me the most honest. so thank you

Only in Congolese music do we see such heated exchanges.  The harsh name calling and back and forth by overzealous loyalists is ridiculous (like they know these guys personally).  We fight over musicians in here like sports fans fight over Kobe & LeBron.  These so-called polemics shows the level of immaturity for all involved including the fans.  It's the same kind of bullshit that got our previous forums shut down, but I digress...  At first it was BCBG vs. WMM, now it's Werra versus everyone else.  These so-called beefs are going to get somebody killed and maybe finally we'll wake the hell up.

Maison Mere fans are the most stupidest fans I have ever seen...their way of thinking is so stupid and unbelievable.

This response alone makes you the smartest guy in the room. Congratulations!!

no, it makes me the most honest. so thank you

Only in Congolese music do we see such heated exchanges.  The harsh name calling and back and forth by overzealous loyalists is ridiculous (like they know these guys personally).  We fight over musicians in here like sports fans fight over Kobe & LeBron.  These so-called polemics shows the level of immaturity for all involved including the fans.  It's the same kind of bullshit that got our previous forums shut down, but I digress...  At first it was BCBG vs. WMM, now it's Werra versus everyone else.  These so-called beefs are going to get somebody killed and maybe finally we'll wake the hell up.

It’s not that serious for people like me, I just can’t stand ignorance and know it all attitude.