Im yet to watch full interview but its once again maitre hugo of maison mere and he is once again apologising to didier masela and adolphe for things he had to do to unsettle them,and that he has to get it out of his chest because he has been thinking about it for long and he had to set himself free about that by confessing
and he was also saying that la zamba should have gone to jb as he was the one who had signed the deal as president,my elder brother who has been around  wenge admin for most of his life now was saying that and i used to doubt him,i am not a guy naturally who is made for picking sides strongly(even in soccer i have never been a hater of any rival team of my preferred ones) but i remember i was forcing myself to be like the only hardcore maison mere guy of the family then(until now the youngins outshone by far those who are pro bcbg and the 3 of us who are just clan wenge) and i used to take the piss out of him when he was saying that but maybe he was not wrong after all as hugo is explaining here that its bana kasavubu who put pressure so that the situation switches as they saw that jb already had most of the musicians if he also took the rehearsal hall which was starting to become legendary it would be too much

he says that him and his guys did security at last wenge 4X4 concert before split  then followed maison mere as they felt pity for werra and co and that he was with werra and saw him cry several times after split he was not imagineing he could bounce back
and he says their support switched totally to werra instead of the 3 leaders  at the walk they organized  in kin's streets to attract fans,and adolphe was worried that they'd cause havoc and him saying that pissed them off,werra was silent and he took werra by the hand and felt that werra was now gaining confidence
he says that werra wanted rid of tata and masela and that they did so much things to unsettle them and now as a grown man he realised they went way too far with them,not once not  twice but several times and that from the moment he was ordered to beat didier masela he thinks its what lead to him leaving,as after that masela who used to be all smiles and motivated became quiet and sad and did not last long and as for musicians baby ndombe played a role in getting rid of tata as he was kinda similar in body shape so werra was telling him that he'd take tata's spot(without the level of tata's influence of course)
He reveals he was heritier watanabe's teacher in judo( along with guys like atshuda and their young bro olivier) and he was used a lot in fights against other groups even before becoming used regularly on stage in maison mere,and he says he has never seen somebody like heritier in music heritier was so fearless that he was even taking him into fights between bodyguards
 when koffi wanted to perform at martyrs koffi approached him and asked how many bodyguards he can bring he said 2000 koffi said no i can afford 200 who will wear t shirts to promote that event and paid something,maison mere people felt betrayed because at that moment relationship between werra and koffi was starting to change seriously while he just went for martyrs event,not to settle there and when he returned to work with maison mere he got 12'd which lead to huge tension in kasavubu where la zamba is,as people were unhappy with that treatment,and he says there are people who threw their lives on the line for maison mere  way more than him and have way more bad feelings
and he says a lot of people lie on tv about the early days and at some point he worked with jb and he advises bodyguards not to limit to security but also coming with ideas for the boss like them
 he arrived in europe in 2010 after working with jb  and he is surprised to hear about the death of yanki because he was not paying much attention to maison mere anymore he is married to a white woman and got a bit disconnected to congolese community

Oh the concert at YMCA was Wenge 4x4's last concert before the split and not the one at Intercontinental, I saw a extract of 2 seconds on youtube without sound in a Skol-commercial of 1997/98.



from 3:58 min, before switching to Defao dancing with his two dancers. (I hear Caludji animating on the background, did Skol ever released those rare commercial instrumentals and songs of the 90s on cassettes?)