Author Topic: Archive; Adolphe Dominguez & Wenge Tonya Tonya live at Studio Maman Ngebi (2001)  (Read 286 times)

Mfumu Vata on: September 25, 2026, 15:02

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archos #1 on: September 25, 2026, 16:47

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everytime i see old tonya tonya stuff it makes me angry,thinking about what it could have been but tata wanted to act ruthless by only one year and ruined a band which had so much potential

Wenge1995 #2 on: September 25, 2026, 18:15

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R.I.P. Diego Cao and Fiston Bass

Adolphe shouldn't have listened to gossip about Lacoste being big headed, because he risked everything by leaving Wenge Musica Masion Mere to follow Tata.

Mfumu Vata #3 on: September 26, 2026, 12:45

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The uploader said that he will upload Adolphe’s LSC once he gets 1,000 subscribers

Mfumu Vata #4 on: September 26, 2026, 12:51

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R.I.P. Diego Cao and Fiston Bass

Adolphe shouldn't have listened to gossip about Lacoste being big headed, because he risked everything by leaving Wenge Musica Masion Mere to follow Tata.

I don't believe that things would have changed much if Lacoste had stayed, because things were already going downhill while he was still around. From their return to Kinshasa till Lacoste's departure. It's true that Lacoste's arrival in Tonya Tonya created some buzz and boosted them even more, but Tonya Tonya had already succes when they started 2–3 months before he joined

Wenge1995 #5 on: September 26, 2026, 21:28

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R.I.P. Diego Cao and Fiston Bass

Adolphe shouldn't have listened to gossip about Lacoste being big headed, because he risked everything by leaving Wenge Musica Masion Mere to follow Tata.

I don't believe that things would have changed much if Lacoste had stayed, because things were already going downhill while he was still around. From their return to Kinshasa till Lacoste's departure. It's true that Lacoste's arrival in Tonya Tonya created some buzz and boosted them even more, but Tonya Tonya had already succes when they started 2–3 months before he joined

If you could pinpoint exactly where things went downhill, where do you think Adolphe lost momentum beyond repair? Was it just too competitive at the time between the branches of Wenge for there to be BCBG, Masion Mere, and Tonya Tonya? Because they had to also contend with the orchestra of Papa Wemba and Koffi Olomide Olomide as well.

I feel like Felix Wazekwa put a self-imposed ceiling on potential of Cultural Pays Vie by refusing to play the politics of the industry, which cost him Stade de Martyrs and other prestigious concerts in Europe until Olympia. But by then, 5eme was already going and that was pretty much his plateau of popularity

CM PRINCE #6 on: September 27, 2026, 18:29

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R.I.P. Diego Cao and Fiston Bass

Adolphe shouldn't have listened to gossip about Lacoste being big headed, because he risked everything by leaving Wenge Musica Masion Mere to follow Tata.

I don't believe that things would have changed much if Lacoste had stayed, because things were already going downhill while he was still around. From their return to Kinshasa till Lacoste's departure. It's true that Lacoste's arrival in Tonya Tonya created some buzz and boosted them even more, but Tonya Tonya had already succes when they started 2–3 months before he joined
I feel like Lacoste leaving was a huge blow to Tonya Tonya. Lacoste and Adolphe were a good duo, it was like Jb and Alain Mpela or Werra and Ferre or Koffi and Fally

archos #7 on: September 27, 2026, 20:08

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and that was exactly the target,they could not really care much about taking him back especially as in that department of tenorist heritier had risen to  level of the prepared heir to ferre via rivalry but at least the goal of  "breaking the fence" in rival camp was reached
every of the rebel group weve seen since nouvelle generation les marquis academia or nouvel horizon in brazza for example once one key member leaves early even if you manage to get the group still going there is a noticeable change,bouro leaving changed the whole destiny of academia because the pattern of leaving brutally because of being upset/influenced was opened and before the group even reached 5 years the key singers were sam's cousin guy bazunga and co wayyyyyyyy behind the level of the original academia

Wenge1995 #8 on: September 28, 2026, 01:54

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and that was exactly the target,they could not really care much about taking him back especially as in that department of tenorist heritier had risen to  level of the prepared heir to ferre via rivalry but at least the goal of  "breaking the fence" in rival camp was reached
every of the rebel group weve seen since nouvelle generation les marquis academia or nouvel horizon in brazza for example once one key member leaves early even if you manage to get the group still going there is a noticeable change,bouro leaving changed the whole destiny of academia because the pattern of leaving brutally because of being upset/influenced was opened and before the group even reached 5 years the key singers were sam's cousin guy bazunga and co wayyyyyyyy behind the level of the original academia

Extra Musica Nouvel Horizon never recovered since the first wave of defections (Willo, Bonbon Rouge, Ben Mambrik, and FBI Sosa Mambu). Who knows if Zaparo is coming back? I think they'll be around, but they definitely lost momentum that the new recruits couldn't reclaim.

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R.I.P. Diego Cao and Fiston Bass

Adolphe shouldn't have listened to gossip about Lacoste being big headed, because he risked everything by leaving Wenge Musica Masion Mere to follow Tata.

I don't believe that things would have changed much if Lacoste had stayed, because things were already going downhill while he was still around. From their return to Kinshasa till Lacoste's departure. It's true that Lacoste's arrival in Tonya Tonya created some buzz and boosted them even more, but Tonya Tonya had already succes when they started 2–3 months before he joined

If you could pinpoint exactly where things went downhill, where do you think Adolphe lost momentum beyond repair? Was it just too competitive at the time between the branches of Wenge for there to be BCBG, Masion Mere, and Tonya Tonya? Because they had to also contend with the orchestra of Papa Wemba and Koffi Olomide Olomide as well.

I feel like Felix Wazekwa put a self-imposed ceiling on potential of Cultural Pays Vie by refusing to play the politics of the industry, which cost him Stade de Martyrs and other prestigious concerts in Europe until Olympia. But by then, 5eme was already going and that was pretty much his plateau of popularity

After Olympia, many musicians were unhappy about not being paid for the tour and wanted to stay in Europe. Just before returning to Kinshasa, there were rumors that some musicians were planning to run away. At the same time, different spokespeople in Kinshasa were making noise about the event that had to take place at  Stade des Martyrs. However, rumors started to circulatethat the show might be cancelled, as Adolphe had lost some of his aura/hype.

Lacoste then returned to Kinshasa with the musicians, while Adolphe stayed behind in Europe to look with staffmembers for the musicians who had run away. But he sadly returned to Kinshasa on his own

The Stade des Martyrs concert ended up by getting cancelled, which caused Adolphe to lose even more of his aura. They performed at GHK, but according to the press, the concert flopped. The same was said about the concerts that followed in Brazzaville.

Several articles were  published in the following weeks claiming that things were not going well for Tonya Tonya. There were also reports people weren't showing up to the public rehearsals like it was before the Europe tour.

Lacoste then left somewhere in September 2002 to rejoin Werrason. Around the same time, Adolphe recruited three dancers from Koffi Olomidé, which I believe was an attempt to counter the buzz surrounding Lacoste’s departure. He also contacted Jordan Kusa to join, but Jordan refused.At the same time , there rumors about Washington joining Quartier Latin (which also happened later). However, none of this really changed the situation of Wenge T.T.. Around the same period, many people who had been part of Adolphe’s circle also returned to Maison Mère like Lacoste. It was like they cursed Adolphe