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The way Badive only keeps praising JB Mpiana in this interview...

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They made like 3 or 4 VHS’s for to promote their Bercy-show

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I don't understand why the album isn't on the digital platforms like its remix-album Copinage, while Sala Noki being Defao's most succesful album in his career. Also why did General Defao want to record a remix-album of Sala Noki ? I prefer Sala Noki above Copinage, except Theo Mbala's animation and some sebenes added by Burkina Faso who didn't participate on Sala Noki, I felt like they messed all songs up.

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Papy Bastin joined Extra Musica years later after its creation in 1993. He joined Extra Musica in 1998 being recruited as reserve-member by Quetin Moyascko along with his friend Papy Jay, just before the split. His first album with Extra was Shalai in 1999, which is Extra’s fifth album so definitely impossible to put him next to the 6 (7) Extra Musica co-founders

Who are the 6 (7) Co-Founders of Extra? And why Roga Roga fails to mention the other 4?

Because of conflicts and the way they left. Roga has been starting mentioning Durrel Loemba since 3 ago after reconcilation with each other in Brazzaville. Back in the days never used to mention Durrel, especially during Extra Musica Zangul vs Extra Musica International rivalery. During the La Main Noire-days he restarted to mention Guy-Guy Fall, but I don't know what happened between both days after it. The same for Kila Mbongo who tried to return in 2007, but the return being a flop, due to the issues with voice. But still being in contact with Roga until whatever happened.

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Soukous-artists like Diblo Dibala, Kanda Bongo Man, Aurlus Mabele, Dr Sakis, Dany Engobo, etc. aren't really known in Kinshasa, they are mostly known by Congolese people who went Europe through West-Africa or who were once based there.Some in Kinshasa know them, but don't respect them, seeing them as comedians for the music they made (Congolese people back in those days didn't like easy lyrics, they used like poetic love songs or songs about life). In that era they used to see Soukous-artists who were shortly broadcoasted on tv by journalist Manda Tchebwa, like people who were send to kill our music.

They only know Nyboma Canta and Awilo Longomba which due to Nyboma being Kinshasa based before his soukous-career and being one of the topstars in Kinshasa back in the 70s, when having his band Lipua Lipua and Kamale. Awilo Longomba is known because of being Papa Wemba's drummer for a long time (getting often shot-outs in tracks recorded by Stino Mubi and Reddy Amisi) and later becoming a co-founder of  rebel band "Nouvelle Generation de la Republique Democratique" which had huge succes with the song Porokondo and diss-track Monimambu against Wemba.

The only instrumentists to have succeed careers in Kinshasa are the Lutumba Simaro when replacing Luambo Makiadi as president after his death and 4 years later forming Bana OK after getting fired, Dr Nico when forming African Fiesta with Tabu Ley and a few years later having a long rivalery with the last one, which resulted in ethnic conflict in Kinshasa between Luba's and those coming from the Kwilu-province. Franco Luambo Makiadi who's seen as greatest musician ever in the Congolese music-history, who's the co-founder of TPOK Jazz,  bringing multiple bands to Europe (Zaiko Langa Langa, Papa Wemba's Viva La Musica and others) and producing their albums on the same time. And of course saxophonist Verkcys Kiamuangana who formed his own band orchestre Veve (having the trio Madjesi as his singers) and also creating his own recordlabel Editions Veve, who produced artists of all generations.

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Papy Bastin joined Extra Musica years later after its creation in 1993. He joined Extra Musica in 1998 being recruited as reserve-member by Quetin Moyascko along with his friend Papy Jay, just before the split. His first album with Extra was Shalai in 1999, which is Extra’s fifth album so definitely impossible to put him next to the 6 (7) Extra Musica co-founders


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Feux D Amour is the best arranged album of Clan Wenge
Pentagon the best Group Album
Alain Makaba is overrated, he is a good soloist but not overall good musician as he is being portrayed, he has done nothing notable post Wenge
JB Mpiana is the most talented, Most charismatic and most lazy Musician of Wenge, if he had half the aggressiveness of Werrason or Koffi olomide , he would have been the best ever Musician of Congo, but he is still the best of his generation
Werrason is a very good tactician and the most aggressive of the Wenge Clan, he is the brain behind most of the strategies. Those characters helped him to build Maison Merre into a formidable force,  but he cannot sing to help himself.
Adolph Dominguez was lucky to be a member of Wenge, out of Wenge he would be nobody
Koffi Olomide albums were better arranged than those of Wenge, that is why he had a good following in Africa. Since most of Fans do not understand Lingala, they always go for well arranged album. I was surprised to learn that Force D intervention Rapide was a success in Congo, the album was very poor arranged, Titanic was the best Album of that year.

So Pepe Felly Manuaku and Flamme Kapaya are also overrated ? Because they also didn't do anything nor joining a band.
Drummers like Meridjo and Champion Djikapela are also overrated because they had done nothing notable after leaving their bands ? So Nono Monzoloko and Ditutala is also overrated because he done nothing notable after Zaiko


 *Alain Makaba participated to
Fula Ngenge and Bakala Dia Kuba of Papa Wemba and one of album of Deesse
Mukangi in 2002.

 Alain Makaba dissapeared from the Congolese music-scene because he was very dissapointed and had lost the love he had with our music. In the same period he was married to the daugther of the late Omar Bongo who used to be president of Gabon at that time.  Pepe Felly Manuaku  for example (who is seen as the father of sebene) was in the same situation, until that Papa Wemba went to get him to participate in Pole Position and later on the Le Quatro+1 project. However he was not motivated anymore and felt that Congolese people weren't giving him the respect he deserved. He tried to settle in Angola, because he's parents are from there, but he felt as a foreigner there and came back to Kinshasa where he works nowadays in Socoda.

The circumstantes also count to the album. Your album can be of high quality, but still not being well received. We have seen it with Emeneya's album Everybody who was a huge flop, but only getting the respect it deserved when he passed away. In the period the critized Emeneya alot and said that he throw his rhythm in the streets and Wenge picked up. Comparing it to Kalayi Boeing who was a huge succes and who had those tribal guitar-sound in the main song, which the original Victoria Eleison used to have.

 The moment when Titanic and Force d'Intervention Rapide got released, alot music-fans and press had sympathy for Werrason, who recorded Force d'Intervention Rapide in difficult conditions (The civil war started, the money devalued, rebels cut the hydroelectro-dam down which created alot problems in Kinshasa) and the public was already used with Wenge BCBG due to their names already being known and their concerts at Bataclan, Madeleine & Palais du Peuple, while Wenge Maison Mere was something new, the singers not known yet. Also JB Mpiana made some declarations in the press, which made many of his own fans turn their towards him and going to support Werrason and alot people hating him.

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Congolese Music / Re: Flamme Kapaya & Ingrid Kabongo
« on: May 18, 2021, 00:08 »
I wonder how Flamme managed to live in Kinshasa when coming back from Europe without money, clothes,with  nothing.. and also that pressure from family and friends who are waiting for some gifts and money and also fans who are seeing you everyday. Werrason not even giving him afleast 50 dollars, while Flamme explained him the situation of about the way they stole everything

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Congolese Music / Re: Apparently Lebou Kabuya passed away
« on: May 17, 2021, 21:22 »
The period just after Noblesse Oblige anyways. Sam sometimes says 1993 and other times 1994 in his interviews.

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Congolese Music / Flamme Kapaya & Ingrid Kabongo
« on: May 17, 2021, 20:28 »

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