Ferre = JB. They have the same model of running their Affairs. So werrason always beats Jb internationally just like fally does to ferre.

No Férre is not  like JB Férre release material in a costant way, the problem with Fèrre is taht he does great instrumental for generique but have a bad taste for the atalaku, Ruth Nzele & Bercy, which I think are the grossest atalakus ever, had always a role of relevance while they shouldn't partecipate on any album, on Seben by Férre great guitar and drumming and the atalaku section is shit like always, and for the international level, Férre needs to know English in a regular way, and be able to promote his music in America comparing with his rival Fally, Hustler is Back is horrible to me but being well promoted in US had 4 milion views, Libre parcours series generique who was release indipendently and was 1000 times better than Hustler is Back has 2 milion on the second generique, Fèrre needs to think less like Werra and more like Koffi. He tried though to go international with that J Martins song Ekelebe, but Nigeria is not US.

JB keep same dude since the dawn of time so when he need punch and new inspiration well good luck to him

Fally keep the same team of unknown singer (every time a I hear a name i'm like who?) anyway he as pretty much the same team but since he advertising himself in the first place so it's not significant.

Werra change a lot of musicians and vocal so sometime the quality is good some time bad (lately very bad in my opinion..)

Ferre do to departures as change is team of musician and singer but the quality stay pretty much the same with up and down in the generique because rumba ferre can handle it pretty much the all album ( even if people complaint about it) he can do it all alone.

So heritier in my opinion should focus is strategy on him few album and then couple of highlight on some of the talented guy he as in the group.

Jb mpiana and ferre are similar in that they want to play music like a Congolese for Congolese, that's what I meant. I also find both to be lazy and do not use their full potential. Were as for koffi, werrason, fally these put in their best.

Some comments here have objectively done justice to the topic being discussed here,therefore, there is no point debating whether Ferre is better than Fally.  We are talking about relevance both locally and internationally, please. Fally has got his high points as well as his low points in all the genres(so to say)Congolese music is known for; same for Ferre.
 In my opinion,the 3 artistes being talked about here have got to have their objective(s) for doing whatever they are doing and that should be their drive : whether for international acceptance or just being known and promoted in DRC or the neighbouring countries .
And we all know what drives Fally and Ferre, let us give Heritier some time to know what he stands for too.

So guys 29th of august will be time of the truth, BM views keeps rising his views and now I say my prediction, Hèritier will go directly to the number one spot of young soloist in Congo, and will battle with Chiffre 14 the leadership of the album in 2016

I actually want someone to put an end to the saying that Ferre is not international like Fally etc. Please define an international artist or career, and please try not to mention playing concerts outside Congo or in Europe or doing Featuring with none Congolese artist cause Ferre has done all that....I'm waiting   

I actually want someone to put an end to the saying that Ferre is not international like Fally etc. Please define an international artist or career, and please try not to mention playing concerts outside Congo or in Europe or doing Featuring with none Congolese artist cause Ferre has done all that....I'm waiting   

Fally, Mohombi, Maitre Gims, Toofan, Stromae, Magic System, Meiway, P-Square, Sarkodie, Yemi Alade, Koffi when he was a serious person... The fact is that Ferre don't sell internationally, is not about views but about the fact that Fèrre on his full potential should be internationally worldwide known but is known in Congo and in Africa and on the other places only from the Congolese diaspora, while Fally is known from the french, american, portuguese, and for the other of my list they all sold worldwide milion of disc being African or of African origins. And Férre still can't do it, the reason why he can't is bad atalaku system, he is god in the Rhumba but if you don't have a good generique only African people will listen to the Rumbas. Taking P-Square all of their song went worldwide are dance songs, Magic System, they got famous with 1er gaou, Stromae alors on danse party song, Toofan Gweta dance's song. So this is why a lot of people say is not international. He is not selling as he should being an artist of his caliber.

I actually want someone to put an end to the saying that Ferre is not international like Fally etc. Please define an international artist or career, and please try not to mention playing concerts outside Congo or in Europe or doing Featuring with none Congolese artist cause Ferre has done all that....I'm waiting   

Fally, Mohombi, Maitre Gims, Toofan, Stromae, Magic System, Meiway, P-Square, Sarkodie, Yemi Alade, Koffi when he was a serious person... The fact is that Ferre don't sell internationally, is not about views but about the fact that Fèrre on his full potential should be internationally worldwide known but is known in Congo and in Africa and on the other places only from the Congolese diaspora, while Fally is known from the french, american, portuguese, and for the other of my list they all sold worldwide milion of disc being African or of African origins. And Férre still can't do it, the reason why he can't is bad atalaku system, he is god in the Rhumba but if you don't have a good generique only African people will listen to the Rumbas. Taking P-Square all of their song went worldwide are dance songs, Magic System, they got famous with 1er gaou, Stromae alors on danse party song, Toofan Gweta dance's song. So this is why a lot of people say is not international. He is not selling as he should being an artist of his caliber.

What evidence do you have that Ferre is not selling internationally or is not known internationally? In OK Jazz time generiques were nonexistent but their music was regarded the best in Africa...Papa Wemba became international artist not with generiques, so you failed on that point already.  This Ferre is not international  debate has no factual evidence apart from people's opinions and preferences is the drive force behind it.

ferre is often given the same treatment as jb for the same reason that they are guys who let things come at them and not guys who"look very active" like koffi fally werra posting whatever they do very often and so on but he is definitely known abroad but fpr sure he does not build a certain image exactly like jb they are more of the types of guys who do their business on stage and in studio and not too much into  whats outside(even though jb has that yohji thing)
like  kongolo often says if you know ferre in private you'll see he has "done" more that what he shows on tv and media in general,also seen  african stars and even done feat with some but he could not care lass about releasing it fast, a bit like jb since i have seen this comparison in the topic he gets there are feats done and in project but zero buzz done around it

ferre is often given the same treatment as jb for the same reason that they are guys who let things come at them and not guys who"look very active" like koffi fally werra posting whatever they do very often and so on but he is definitely known abroad but fpr sure he does not build a certain image exactly like jb they are more of the types of guys who do their business on stage and in studio and not too much into  whats outside(even though jb has that yohji thing)
like  kongolo often says if you know ferre in private you'll see he has "done" more that what he shows on tv and media in general,also seen  african stars and even done feat with some but he could not care lass about releasing it fast, a bit like jb since i have seen this comparison in the topic he gets there are feats done and in project but zero buzz done around it

That JB treatment some people give Ferre its insulting and misdirected. Ferre makes big effort for his music to cross Africa by releasing different type of songs and staying active with albums and doing featurings with selective artists. IF posting pics of yourself on insta or fb begging a selfie with American and Nigerian artist makes you international than international yango ebeba, hence why Lacoste calls himself Mr international.

Archos , has reflected exactly what I said. This QL thing is dead.

On the ground he is already at the level of the 2Fs; Retirada might just catapult the "Chosen One" ahead of the pack...

I actually want someone to put an end to the saying that Ferre is not international like Fally etc. Please define an international artist or career, and please try not to mention playing concerts outside Congo or in Europe or doing Featuring with none Congolese artist cause Ferre has done all that....I'm waiting   

Fally, Mohombi, Maitre Gims, Toofan, Stromae, Magic System, Meiway, P-Square, Sarkodie, Yemi Alade, Koffi when he was a serious person... The fact is that Ferre don't sell internationally, is not about views but about the fact that Fèrre on his full potential should be internationally worldwide known but is known in Congo and in Africa and on the other places only from the Congolese diaspora, while Fally is known from the french, american, portuguese, and for the other of my list they all sold worldwide milion of disc being African or of African origins. And Férre still can't do it, the reason why he can't is bad atalaku system, he is god in the Rhumba but if you don't have a good generique only African people will listen to the Rumbas. Taking P-Square all of their song went worldwide are dance songs, Magic System, they got famous with 1er gaou, Stromae alors on danse party song, Toofan Gweta dance's song. So this is why a lot of people say is not international. He is not selling as he should being an artist of his caliber.

What evidence do you have that Ferre is not selling internationally or is not known internationally? In OK Jazz time generiques were nonexistent but their music was regarded the best in Africa...Papa Wemba became international artist not with generiques, so you failed on that point already.  This Ferre is not international  debate has no factual evidence apart from people's opinions and preferences is the drive force behind it.

It was other days it was another Congo, Congo was known internationally in the 60's because of the independence nad the sad fact of Lumumba Mobutu, so USA people and Western World had easy access on the congolese music on the 70's Muhammad Ali came in Kin for fighting foreman so American again and western world were crazy over congolese and black american people saw that as their missing country, third fact good relationship with Mobutu, mobutu beside politic opinion has done everything to make Congo go international with the music and the culture, and even though generique wasn't that popular foreigners respected and loved Rumbas a lot in fact Tabu Ley was one of the most sellin artist in Belgique during those times earning an awards from the belgian government after Mobutu's death, that Rumba thing stopped and the generique became the main force, and it is until now the day that Fèrre will release a generique on his own with no atalaku behind it will be the day he will be more known than Fally.

Retirada anyway will put Fally outside of the number one spot, I was doubting it, but after that BM performance, Hèritier is on his way to become the number one force in Congo.

Retirada anyway will put Fally outside of the number one spot, I was doubting it, but after that BM performance, Hèritier is on his way to become the number one force in Congo.

On this one, I hope you researched well before making this careless statement.