Author Topic: REFLECTION ABOUT BILL  (Read 12010 times)

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #15 on: January 30, 2017, 16:08

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Luxembourg made his name with Bill and i don't understand what you mean Bill and Werra shared the same soloist as Luxembourg spent most of his career in Kin with Bill and when he joined Werra, he inly did one album on which solo guitar was not the focus as it was more of techno sebene,only on Kakol's composition famously called "nzambe aza malamu" did we hear proper sebene but throughout the album Kimbangu was not mentioned as he had already left by the time the album was completed and released.

As Archos has rightly put it, Bill's strategy changed as soon as he realised how lucrative Skol's contract was. It all started from the single Tindika Lokito, Bracongo realised that Bill alone could do it for them and when he went solo after Les Marquis, they offered him a massive contract and he did his first ever solo project a single "Kiyoki na Kiyoki" which was successful and was well received by the public, this is what now gave Bracongo more confidence in Bill and they no longer cared about Werra as Bill is the one that composed all those popular Wenge Musica Maison Mere and Werrason and Wenge Maison Mere generiques.

Furthermore, other companies came on board, Bill started doing promos for different brands including milk, biscuits et al and that is how it's stayed even now, he concentrates more on marketing/advertisement and concerts as opposed to do straight music to release on CD's for sale like the rest of them do. He has his own niche market and though most people consider him to be finished, he is not,he just does unique things which are in contrast to what he did in Maison Mere, he has achieved more financially as a result of his corporate contracts for marketing. He remains the sole brand ambassador for Bracongo like JB is for Bralima's Primus. 
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Manzambi94 #16 on: February 01, 2017, 21:23

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skol could have had some of those guys but bill blocks it,imagine that even koffi did not renew because their priority was increasing bill
I think that even if Koffi could do something spiritually and legally to break Bill's contract with Skol he doesn't do that because he sees this Bill relationship with Skol, as an occasione to weaken his friend/rival Werra and to weaken his enemy number 1 JB Mpiana. Because it is very strange especially for a Macchiavellian personality like Koffi to leave Bill with all those money.

Manzambi94 #17 on: February 01, 2017, 21:32

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Manzambi

Luxembourg made his name with Bill and i don't understand what you mean Bill and Werra shared the same soloist as Luxembourg spent most of his career in Kin with Bill and when he joined Werra, he inly did one album on which solo guitar was not the focus as it was more of techno sebene,only on Kakol's composition famously called "nzambe aza malamu" did we hear proper sebene but throughout the album Kimbangu was not mentioned as he had already left by the time the album was completed and released.

As Archos has rightly put it, Bill's strategy changed as soon as he realised how lucrative Skol's contract was. It all started from the single Tindika Lokito, Bracongo realised that Bill alone could do it for them and when he went solo after Les Marquis, they offered him a massive contract and he did his first ever solo project a single "Kiyoki na Kiyoki" which was successful and was well received by the public, this is what now gave Bracongo more confidence in Bill and they no longer cared about Werra as Bill is the one that composed all those popular Wenge Musica Maison Mere and Werrason and Wenge Maison Mere generiques.

Furthermore, other companies came on board, Bill started doing promos for different brands including milk, biscuits et al and that is how it's stayed even now, he concentrates more on marketing/advertisement and concerts as opposed to do straight music to release on CD's for sale like the rest of them do. He has his own niche market and though most people consider him to be finished, he is not,he just does unique things which are in contrast to what he did in Maison Mere, he has achieved more financially as a result of his corporate contracts for marketing. He remains the sole brand ambassador for Bracongo like JB is for Bralima's Primus.
SLY I don't in what world you live in but Bill is over, OVER, the days of Tindika Lokito, Kibuisa Mpipa, Solola Bien, Ala Queue Leu Leu are OVER.
Brigade took Bill's spot and Bill cannot replicate with great hits, not even for the marketing but for the music itself After Fukushima's Album he never did something at the height of his glory and let's face it, it is the truth.
What I meant is that Bill never had the problema of having a good soloist, Mayi Ya Nkamba it is a great soloist too, but what Bill cannot give is the Internationallity that Werra offers, Kimbangu was more searched by the Journalist even though he left, for the Malewa (Lelele) partitions he did. I never seen someone during the Ball Perdue, or the Bo Mpikiliki's era go to Kimbangu and have the same popular love he has when he went with Werra. The fun/show/unpredictibility factor that Bill had is now gone and almost no Atalaku dances like him but, even though he has done some great things Bill is over and Lola na Lola is an example of my theory.

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #18 on: February 02, 2017, 10:36

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Manzambi, Lola na Lola is not a proper generique,it's got more of a traditional touch to it and it's computer based,only the guitars were live.
Bill is simply just experimenting with his music just like Koffi is otherwise he is well capable of doing proper generiques like he did in Wenge. Music is evolving all the time.

I simply do not understand why you think Kimbangu made a huge difference whilst with Werra when he was simply there for just over a year if not less and he only worked on one album plus a single which was a political generique. His profile remained the same,he was already known for his exceptional guitar works whilst with Les Samurai's and that was why he was recruited without hesitation just like with Christian Bombole Airbag who too made his name whilst with Alain Mpela's Generation A. It is the likes of that lead soloist now Arc en Ciel who started on rhythm and mi-solo before being lead soloist.
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Manzambi94 #19 on: February 05, 2017, 22:38

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Manzambi, Lola na Lola is not a proper generique,it's got more of a traditional touch to it and it's computer based,only the guitars were live.
Bill is simply just experimenting with his music just like Koffi is otherwise he is well capable of doing proper generiques like he did in Wenge. Music is evolving all the time.

I simply do not understand why you think Kimbangu made a huge difference whilst with Werra when he was simply there for just over a year if not less and he only worked on one album plus a single which was a political generique. His profile remained the same,he was already known for his exceptional guitar works whilst with Les Samurai's and that was why he was recruited without hesitation just like with Christian Bombole Airbag who too made his name whilst with Alain Mpela's Generation A. It is the likes of that lead soloist now Arc en Ciel who started on rhythm and mi-solo before being lead soloist.
I am not Arguing that Samouraus and Generazione A are big groups, but you have to admit that it is not like being on the spotlight with WENGE or Quartier Larin, or F'Victeam or with Ferrè