they first talk about his family and his 10 children and he says on stage he is jb mpiana papa cheri and all that but in real life he is a normal person and a father who wants the best for his children,few have same mothers but he is happy that those 10 all love each other and are very united
later he is asked about the way his name is involved into polemic these days and he says he is surprised and shocked that people find it a big deal that he appreciated ferre and heritier,back when he openly supported kabose who nobody believed in nobody complained,same when he praised several artists,and clearly names fally saying when he was repeating several times that fally was doing good job and good things in his career it bothered nobody but why now all of a sudden it creates a problem
he is told "but they are direspecting your friend" and he says he is talking about their music  he rarely watches stuff about congolese music so he is not much into what is going on between them and werra and actually he'd regret if they have issues,they have to be united and werra proud of them
he does not believe ferre and heritier are that stupid to wake up out of nowhere and talk bad of werra and asks nana to go ask them all what is the real problem because we can not jump on conclusions without knowing where it all started who started dissing the other and so on  and later on he says to avoid such situation congolese artists should follow example of ya jossart nioka longo,the guy barely talks,respects his status of legend,respects younger artists and that is the key  when young and older people respect each other there is no reason to have beef
 he is asked if he has any problem with werra and fally he says no no not at all he has no problem with his friend werrason and same with fally the only thing which changed is that he does not see fally anymore  and indirectly says he protects himself over something but that does not mean he has any problem with fally at all
 he is asked about his children in music not doing well and he says people should stop with that children thing or somebody should then turn his biological children into a music star if that children exists
for him what exists is that  the guys join their groups then when they leave their talent,determination,organization,relationship and luck influence what their career will become,there are guys who have mad talent but who are not blessed with luck to do big things on their own,just like sometimes there are guys with limited talent who become big stars
and he gives example of his idol papa wemba who was openly saying that evoloko is the best singer he has ever seen and evoloko was a bigger star in zaiko than wemba but destiny and hard work  made papa wemba become a much much bigger star later on
and himself jb mpiana he knows there are much better singers than him  but who did not get opportunity to have his career
 he is asked about re doing maisha park to make young artists unite and he says maisha park  is BS yes they united  and most hoped it would go far,he missed first reunion but ended up coming at second reunion not to look like a primadonna  but in reality some artists who had problems in their groups just wanted their artists to suffer so they came with that system  of saying when a musician leaves a group for another both leaders have to have written agreement knowing that he would never happen so the consequence should have been that all those upset youngsters find nowhere to go but since God he is much more powerful than us human those youngsters became solo stars,and king kester (and also werra) told him  they feel maisha will go nowhere with the things they are discussing outside unity

about Maisha Park, I never really understood what it was. Who organized this and what was its purpose?

Thanks master for the translation. I truly believe him when he says he holds nothing for Werra and Fally, that's him he's never had bad heart but Mr. Snap chart please try create stars, it cant be that you are always willing to offer help to stars made by other people and not your own. You can't just be creating for us combattants instead of stars.

about Maisha Park, I never really understood what it was. Who organized this and what was its purpose?

Maisha Park was a kind of reunion/council between all the big stars in Congo music, they Were Bozi Boziana, Fally, Werra, Papa Wemba, M'Biloa Bel, JB, Koffi and many others musicians  with the goal of creating a new climate of peace and end of silly beefs for making Congo music great again.
But it lasted once and of course Congolese musician's ego ruined all

fally was not there some refused to include youngsters if i recall well only bill went once

Thanks master for the translation. I truly believe him when he says he holds nothing for Werra and Fally, that's him he's never had bad heart but Mr. Snap chart please try create stars, it cant be that you are always willing to offer help to stars made by other people and not your own. You can't just be creating for us combattants instead of stars.

Too late. The claws of killbense, JDL, segiun, Rio are too tight for jb to create talent.

I 100% agree with you Men Bilele. JB should create his on stars.

i'd say he should bring back the system which helped musicians flourish before eventually going solo
if we are really honest the "kids" are more the consequence of the system'( understanding the codes of success) and the guys hunger afterwards than what those leaders wished their ex band members became
so i'd say bring back a bcbg with proper promotion and we might get some "kids" out of them

Just asking...
Why is it that the so called "new stars" don't thrive once out of the shadows of their bosses?
The last off shoots that have succeeded according to me is Ferre and Fally. Otherwise we have guys whose barks are bigger than their bites

Just asking...
Why is it that the so called "new stars" don't thrive once out of the shadows of their bosses?
The last off shoots that have succeeded according to me is Ferre and Fally. Otherwise we have guys whose barks are bigger than their bites

I think that the fact are two, the solo thing when Fally and Ferre left was not this frequent, Fally and Ferre left because they felt that they could be the next generation star which they became, while the others Bill, Celeo and many others left because the system was becoming too much oppressive.
The second fact is that they are too many guys, too much, in Nigeria you have P-Square and many also, but there aren't orchestras there aren't 15 musicians per bend with 8 singers singing 30 sec for song, yesterday Robinio left, Today Fabro Left, Deplick left, Heritier left, Metrau, Left, Abraham left, Abel De Charme left, Brigade, Lobeso, Tresor Nzinga, Isipa, Djino, Capuccino, Soleil Wanga, Supersonic Miracle, Jipson, Bouro Mpela, Kapaya and many others very memorable member left their orchestras and the majority of them have limited amount of money to promote themselves if they don't have a label, how can you emerge? You need to be the next Michael.Jackson to reach the height of being the next soloist artist in this generation

Just asking...
Why is it that the so called "new stars" don't thrive once out of the shadows of their bosses?
The last off shoots that have succeeded according to me is Ferre and Fally. Otherwise we have guys whose barks are bigger than their bites

I think that the fact are two, the solo thing when Fally and Ferre left was not this frequent, Fally and Ferre left because they felt that they could be the next generation star which they became, while the others Bill, Celeo and many others left because the system was becoming too much oppressive.
The second fact is that they are too many guys, too much, in Nigeria you have P-Square and many also, but there aren't orchestras there aren't 15 musicians per bend with 8 singers singing 30 sec for song, yesterday Robinio left, Today Fabro Left, Deplick left, Heritier left, Metrau, Left, Abraham left, Abel De Charme left, Brigade, Lobeso, Tresor Nzinga, Isipa, Djino, Capuccino, Soleil Wanga, Supersonic Miracle, Jipson, Bouro Mpela, Kapaya and many others very memorable member left their orchestras and the majority of them have limited amount of money to promote themselves if they don't have a label, how can you emerge? You need to be the next Michael.Jackson to reach the height of being the next soloist artist in this generation

I hear you.
I have stated going solo is part luck part hard work part network  etc. All these have to align correctly for you to succeed.

Just asking...
Why is it that the so called "new stars" don't thrive once out of the shadows of their bosses?
The last off shoots that have succeeded according to me is Ferre and Fally. Otherwise we have guys whose barks are bigger than their bites

I think that the fact are two, the solo thing when Fally and Ferre left was not this frequent, Fally and Ferre left because they felt that they could be the next generation star which they became, while the others Bill, Celeo and many others left because the system was becoming too much oppressive.
The second fact is that they are too many guys, too much, in Nigeria you have P-Square and many also, but there aren't orchestras there aren't 15 musicians per bend with 8 singers singing 30 sec for song, yesterday Robinio left, Today Fabro Left, Deplick left, Heritier left, Metrau, Left, Abraham left, Abel De Charme left, Brigade, Lobeso, Tresor Nzinga, Isipa, Djino, Capuccino, Soleil Wanga, Supersonic Miracle, Jipson, Bouro Mpela, Kapaya and many others very memorable member left their orchestras and the majority of them have limited amount of money to promote themselves if they don't have a label, how can you emerge? You need to be the next Michael.Jackson to reach the height of being the next soloist artist in this generation

I hear you.
I have stated going solo is part luck part hard work part network  etc. All these have to align correctly for you to succeed.

To some extent i agree with JB Mpiana on the part of luck, talent. Maybe JB Mpiana can be faulted when it comes to exposure since group members go for a long time (like is the case now) without any new music out from them to expose their talent. But then again i think BCBG is very active in terms of having concerts so the exposure is there just maybe not as expected.

The other reason why i think Fally and Ferre have proven to be successful is that not only are they talented in their own right but are also hungry for more succesful. This is what the others lack. I mean people like Celeo, Bill, JDT etc to me seem to be comfortable with the little fame that they  have achieved so far so they dont see the need of being visible. Then you have the other guys who are determined to make a mark like Deplick, Kabose, Chai Ngenge etecetera  but lack the financial muscle. All in all how successful one becomes is not down to one reason but all things such as determination, financial backing, luck and talent being in one's favour. But like they say "success has many fathers but failure is an orphan".

 Things are starting to go seriously hardcore between camps of jb and werra,when you hear them starting to throw in allusions to their tribes you can be  almost certain that things are getting very very serious,there are just fights and musicians starting to participate in polemic  away from getting back to how it used to be
 ferre and heritier visit did and jb's interview(and the way its interpreted of course in a contaxt with some tension already)brought the whole shxt to another level, yanki just posted a video of werra arriving in lubumbashi and in the title took a dig at  jb calling him tatu ngeleka which is the name they used to "coach" ferre in in naming jb to become some sort of second rival to jb and in the same time roger ml who does some kinda similar role to yanki when he has time( bcbg is not his main work ) posted an old video of christian mabanga saying that  if a musician is just interested in exposure he'd go to werra to benefit from the system but if somebody wants to have a long career with a leader  and be respected by the leader he'd go to jb and stuff like that
 this brings me back to words of roger ngandu who surely attended with jb at that meeting at werra's home and he claimed jb suggested to werra to let clashes apart and support clan wenge musicians(while nsone if its 100 per cent true surely expected and expects heritier and ferre to make some strong apologies before even considering it) so it let to theories that jb is siding with them and so on and now with my experience in clan wenge  its not too far from becoming very very serious
and will all due respect to my beloved  maison mere  they are not the type to take L's lightly 

Things are starting to go seriously hardcore between camps of jb and werra,when you hear them starting to throw in allusions to their tribes you can be  almost certain that things are getting very very serious,there are just fights and musicians starting to participate in polemic  away from getting back to how it used to be
 ferre and heritier visit did and jb's interview(and the way its interpreted of course in a contaxt with some tension already)brought the whole shxt to another level, yanki just posted a video of werra arriving in lubumbashi and in the title took a dig at  jb calling him tatu ngeleka which is the name they used to "coach" ferre in in naming jb to become some sort of second rival to jb and in the same time roger ml who does some kinda similar role to yanki when he has time( bcbg is not his main work ) posted an old video of christian mabanga saying that  if a musician is just interested in exposure he'd go to werra to benefit from the system but if somebody wants to have a long career with a leader  and be respected by the leader he'd go to jb and stuff like that
 this brings me back to words of roger ngandu who surely attended with jb at that meeting at werra's home and he claimed jb suggested to werra to let clashes apart and support clan wenge musicians(while nsone if its 100 per cent true surely expected and expects heritier and ferre to make some strong apologies before even considering it) so it let to theories that jb is siding with them and so on and now with my experience in clan wenge  its not too far from becoming very very serious
and will all due respect to my beloved  maison mere  they are not the type to take L's lightly 

Until I hear JB and Werra directly or even indirectly admit there's something wrong or even someone like Sankara I won't buy any of this smh

both will never do it, or it will be very hard, it happened a couple of times that there was some disagreement between them in those 7 8 years they started to admit still being friends but they were always hiding it, i guess these types its more obvious because of how social network has become