yeah i meant there was competition also but it was minor compared to the last 15 years
it was the odd position here and there where the starter is not too sure of his status while now even the guys who come for tests already seek loads of protection,people around them even tell them just go see grandmother or grandfather x or y over there in the modest areas of kin and he"ll prepare you for two weeks or a month before your test and you'll see what will happen
kojack issues were with miel taddet(taddet even "stole" his official girlfriend) and sometimes wata,even miel and taddet between themselves,at some point taddet became like he had suffered a stroke for two three weeks,while in zero hospital they found anything because it was not natural,caferoum also got given a hard time by miel until around ingeta where he had no choice to also get into the game and then re established himself where he belonged
there are various forms of attacking each other,the oldest and most classic was the microphone powder,then in recent years it became some stuff like kojack said,photos or any important object related to you taken to sorcerers and so on
and now in most of the groups the ngangas of several band members even appear often in crowds like random fans and do stuff against each other when needed
in bcbg djino and jdl were also strong in that game,guys like soso and metro for example got attacked hard,metro got tested in one of the last three concerts of djino and  on djino's mic and he started going strangely out of tune then when jb told him to come take his mic his voice became perfect

Heritier didn't need to attack anyone since he was the one after Werra.

Sucks that Caferoum had to give into that world. He should've just went to pastors for protection and so hard prayers often. That's what I would if I was surrounded by evil dudes on a daily basis basically trying to kill you through magic.

That's what I mean, how would Djino know that Meteo is coming to be tested unless he does ritiuals beforehand to attack any artist being tested or have people in the area for him.

It wasn’t Eboa. Was left many times behind in Kinshasa (2008, 2009 & 2010) with him at some point almost joining Quartier Latin.

Everybody who were following La Zambia in that era know that it were Miel & Taddet. Miel was the champion in blocking voices. He did that even to Heritier. Is attacks toward Heritier were so strong that he had troat issues. Heritier had even to do suregy. The Mayi Ya Sika-Generation was deeper in witchcraft than Les Marquis, but didn’t do something special.

I thought it was today because the way he said about taking people's voices and the way he laughed. And he could've done some attacks since head getting let behind a lot but came again around Malewa Suite et fin. Mayo ya sika generation did get to play two Zeniths.

yeah they played 2 zenith, but the impact of those events even the same or bigger then the events Les Marquis did (1998-2004) at Bercy, Double Zenith, Villejuif, Palais des Sports, 4x Stade des Martyrs, Palais du Peuple, etc. with people getting crazy. Some women even divorcing with their man to see Werra, Bill, Ferre. Back in 1999, 2000, 2001 & 2002 when Maison Mere was arriving in Paris & Brussels streets were then full with people and cars, white people not knowing what was going on and the police arriving. But with the Mayi-Ya-Sika generation it didn't happend. People in Chateaux Rouge were happy to see Fabregas, Brigade, Heritier, when they were coming before those big events. But it wasn't like in the past when a big mass of people following Werra, Bill, Ferre and ending up in Village Mbetenge of Photo Joel Mbetenge. Maison Mere wasn't the same anymore with them. Musicians were fighting against eachother. Remember how Musamaria almost killed Brigade, Taddet & Miel messing the chorus up during concerts by screaming, Heritier sending kuluna's to Brigade, etc.




lol I saw combattant Papy Vocal from 3:58 min

yeah i meant there was competition also but it was minor compared to the last 15 years
it was the odd position here and there where the starter is not too sure of his status while now even the guys who come for tests already seek loads of protection,people around them even tell them just go see grandmother or grandfather x or y over there in the modest areas of kin and he"ll prepare you for two weeks or a month before your test and you'll see what will happen
kojack issues were with miel taddet(taddet even "stole" his official girlfriend) and sometimes wata,even miel and taddet between themselves,at some point taddet became like he had suffered a stroke for two three weeks,while in zero hospital they found anything because it was not natural,caferoum also got given a hard time by miel until around ingeta where he had no choice to also get into the game and then re established himself where he belonged
there are various forms of attacking each other,the oldest and most classic was the microphone powder,then in recent years it became some stuff like kojack said,photos or any important object related to you taken to sorcerers and so on
and now in most of the groups the ngangas of several band members even appear often in crowds like random fans and do stuff against each other when needed
in bcbg djino and jdl were also strong in that game,guys like soso and metro for example got attacked hard,metro got tested in one of the last three concerts of djino and  on djino's mic and he started going strangely out of tune then when jb told him to come take his mic his voice became perfect

Heritier didn't need to attack anyone since he was the one after Werra.

Sucks that Caferoum had to give into that world. He should've just went to pastors for protection and so hard prayers often. That's what I would if I was surrounded by evil dudes on a daily basis basically trying to kill you through magic.

That's what I mean, how would Djino know that Meteo is coming to be tested unless he does ritiuals beforehand to attack any artist being tested or have people in the area for him.

yeah djino brought a lot of people of his area,and behind the scenes they were doing all types of stuff for him,they were also sometimes secretly stealing phones of colleagues and stuff like that for him in his final year so he became quite unpopular

It sucks that a good giy like Cafe Rhoum also entered the game... My goodness who he sacrificed for that? Anyway I really hope Taddet and Miel will not succeed, Miel was the best vocalist in Sous-Sol (Simeon the group song credited to Werra) along with Adjani and Jr Marriot but strangely Adjani got away after Mayi Ya Sika and Jr. Marriot never had vocals since Sous-Sol leaving after Malewa where he was in the video with no singing, for BonBon wow he made vocals in two albumsTon Amour (Alerte Generale) and in Tenoignage (Album) with the infamous vocal on Temps Perdus (literally lost time) he never had vocals after temoignage for 6 years he was always in the video dancing but without singing, I speak bad aboit Werra sometimes but this time you got to give him credit because he really believed in Bonbon and Jr, Taddet always had that jealousy in him you could see him he was the first one in hospital with BonBon givimg news to journalist not because he cared obviously and Miel wow, Kakol did really well tovblock his solo album that's the best reward for him.

It wasn’t Eboa. Was left many times behind in Kinshasa (2008, 2009 & 2010) with him at some point almost joining Quartier Latin.

Everybody who were following La Zambia in that era know that it were Miel & Taddet. Miel was the champion in blocking voices. He did that even to Heritier. Is attacks toward Heritier were so strong that he had troat issues. Heritier had even to do suregy. The Mayi Ya Sika-Generation was deeper in witchcraft than Les Marquis, but didn’t do something special.

How could you understand who is witchcrafting who? Because I have followed Werra and Wenge since that time 2003/2004 until 2010 but honeslty I have never noticed something like that

It wasn’t Eboa. Was left many times behind in Kinshasa (2008, 2009 & 2010) with him at some point almost joining Quartier Latin.

Everybody who were following La Zambia in that era know that it were Miel & Taddet. Miel was the champion in blocking voices. He did that even to Heritier. Is attacks toward Heritier were so strong that he had troat issues. Heritier had even to do suregy. The Mayi Ya Sika-Generation was deeper in witchcraft than Les Marquis, but didn’t do something special.

How could you understand who is witchcrafting who? Because I have followed Werra and Wenge since that time 2003/2004 until 2010 but honeslty I have never noticed something like that

It's not that i understand who is witchcrafting who. It just the information who are getting from people who are close to musicians and that story about Bonbon Kojack being attacked by Miel & Taddet, Miel blocking Cafe Roum or Taddet accepting to do nkisi after being left 2 times behind in Kinshasa before Sous Sol with him being praised about that in a song in Temps Present (i forgot the title) is known by everyone who's a Maison Mere-fan.

It sucks that a good giy like Cafe Rhoum also entered the game... My goodness who he sacrificed for that? Anyway I really hope Taddet and Miel will not succeed, Miel was the best vocalist in Sous-Sol (Simeon the group song credited to Werra) along with Adjani and Jr Marriot but strangely Adjani got away after Mayi Ya Sika and Jr. Marriot never had vocals since Sous-Sol leaving after Malewa where he was in the video with no singing, for BonBon wow he made vocals in two albumsTon Amour (Alerte Generale) and in Tenoignage (Album) with the infamous vocal on Temps Perdus (literally lost time) he never had vocals after temoignage for 6 years he was always in the video dancing but without singing, I speak bad aboit Werra sometimes but this time you got to give him credit because he really believed in Bonbon and Jr, Taddet always had that jealousy in him you could see him he was the first one in hospital with BonBon givimg news to journalist not because he cared obviously and Miel wow, Kakol did really well tovblock his solo album that's the best reward for him.

Adjani left somewhere in 2007 or early 2008 creating his own band with people not taking him seriously. I remeber him doing an interview with Marlene Kassanga about that but it got deleted on youtube. Then his own musicians fired him from his band for not being serious and being addicted to drugs. Adjani then returned in 2009 to Maison Mere and Werrason thinking about to give him a song in Malewa vol. 1 but he changed his mind on the last minute. He even humilated him when they were interviewing him at the Ndiaye-studio.


JR Marot became very sick (he was also attacked). Then he returned after being recovered. He had to put a song in Malewa Suite et Fin, but Werrason or Kakol I don't remember refused. With him leaving just before they finished Malewa Suite et Fin. He recorded that song quickly and made a clip, but nobody paid attention to that. I remember journalist Yves Abdallah mocking an attacking him in an interview, when he tried to launch his solo-career in Kinshasa two years later.

It wasn’t Eboa. Was left many times behind in Kinshasa (2008, 2009 & 2010) with him at some point almost joining Quartier Latin.

Everybody who were following La Zambia in that era know that it were Miel & Taddet. Miel was the champion in blocking voices. He did that even to Heritier. Is attacks toward Heritier were so strong that he had troat issues. Heritier had even to do suregy. The Mayi Ya Sika-Generation was deeper in witchcraft than Les Marquis, but didn’t do something special.

How could you understand who is witchcrafting who? Because I have followed Werra and Wenge since that time 2003/2004 until 2010 but honeslty I have never noticed something like that

It's not that i understand who is witchcrafting who. It just the information who are getting from people who are close to musicians and that story about Bonbon Kojack being attacked by Miel & Taddet, Miel blocking Cafe Roum or Taddet accepting to do nkisi after being left 2 times behind in Kinshasa before Sous Sol with him being praised about that in a song in Temps Present (i forgot the title) is known by everyone who's a Maison Mere-fan.

The song is Retour Interdit and Werraiterli said "You see Taddet De Monticule the patience pays" and like always lyrics of a man singing lime he was a woman about man and the seben in that song is really weird with Brigade Talkong superfast and Prince adding it it is a beautiful song but it is also really confused in the seben and weird im the rumba part of the song

Exactly until today in both wenge's and some other groups some guys only make the trip lists when they end up accepting to do some things
it reminds me of anecdote in 2003 in cultura,after one trip abroad before another which was a private concert to a president i think obiang,wazekwa organized a reunion and confronted the group especially female dancers,and said i was told by all my staff that many of you went to sorcerers to make it on list(back then wazekwa strictly wanted no more than 20 people,not even 21) we are not defining any list until i know the truth and after minutes most female dancers admitted they did stuff to try to seduce him,because they were told so by people around,and so did some guys and admitted they were doing it since the first europe trip of 99 ,and he said ok you know what i will go with only two dancers olga and ursule who still swear in the name of Jesus and their family that they nothing and make it a playback and from now on whoever is involved in any sort of mystic things i dont want to hear anything as soon as i notice you better  leave or i'll take you to police myself,because if you start to get ready to sacrifice cows and chicken at some point it will become humans thats why when bercy started going strange,they started monitoring him and his fake death was the final proof that he was not normal anymore
and from that moment,in  most of the period before they go abroad,he either rents hotel rooms or allocates some of his houses so that they live together and they can control if somebody did not go to get whatever to curse either him or a colleague and one atalaku came to test like that doing mystic prayers before test(when brandon joined maison mere)he cancelled rehearsal and forced eclipse to start doing bercy parts instead of a replacement
or when ambassy started making tours fally used to joke "petit na nga okoti hein,ca va hein",kind of alluding that he went to do stuff to enter and never leave again lists

Exactly until today in both wenge's and some other groups some guys only make the trip lists when they end up accepting to do some things
it reminds me of anecdote in 2003 in cultura,after one trip abroad before another which was a private concert to a president i think obiang,wazekwa organized a reunion and confronted the group especially female dancers,and said i was told by all my staff that many of you went to sorcerers to make it on list(back then wazekwa strictly wanted no more than 20 people,not even 21) we are not defining any list until i know the truth and after minutes most female dancers admitted they did stuff to try to seduce him,because they were told so by people around,and so did some guys and admitted they were doing it since the first europe trip of 99 ,and he said ok you know what i will go with only two dancers olga and ursule who still swear in the name of Jesus and their family that they nothing and make it a playback and from now on whoever is involved in any sort of mystic things i dont want to hear anything as soon as i notice you better  leave or i'll take you to police myself,because if you start to get ready to sacrifice cows and chicken at some point it will become humans thats why when bercy started going strange,they started monitoring him and his fake death was the final proof that he was not normal anymore
and from that moment,in  most of the period before they go abroad,he either rents hotel rooms or allocates some of his houses so that they live together and they can control if somebody did not go to get whatever to curse either him or a colleague and one atalaku came to test like that doing mystic prayers before test(when brandon joined maison mere)he cancelled rehearsal and forced eclipse to start doing bercy parts instead of a replacement
or when ambassy started making tours fally used to joke "petit na nga okoti hein,ca va hein",kind of alluding that he went to do stuff to enter and never leave again lists

Wow so that means that some of the cultura members would have to do some type of spell on Wazekwa to be made on the list. I would've fired everyone who did it or tried to cause hat can put you at risk.

I thought Ambassy said in an interview that he's Christian and that as a grown man he can't just change like that. If that's what it takes to get on concerts lists then it's bests that the people who always stay behind stay because at the end a trip to another country or city in Congo is nothing compared to an enternity in hell.

Then his own musicians fired him from his band for not being serious and being addicted to drugs.

  . This is hilarious. I remember seeing a video of him rehearsing with his band a few years ago in what looked like an unfinished buiding. And then him doing that interview with Papy Mboma where he kept saying he is still with Werrason but not a Maison Mere member.

Speaking of spiritual stuff in music or sports, somewhere between 2004 and 2008 if am not mistaken there was a live wrestling match between Zambia's Tiger Boy Nkandu who had made a name as a very good wrestler against Lubandi Mulozhi of DRC. What happenned during the wrestling match, i would not believe it if i had not seen it with my own eyes. It was as funny as it was scary because the match ended in less than 5 minutes, with "Tiger Boy" being knocked out without even being touched. Quite clearly Mulozhi was using some spell on his opponent to incapacitate him. The match ended in controversy with the Tiger Boy surrendering and later on protesting about Mulozhi's spiritual attacks on him. Lol

https://allafrica.com/stories/200502030170.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/congolese-boxer-overpowers-opponent-with-magic-spell-1529888.html

But what i fail to understand is why these footballers don't use their voodoo/kindoki to win Africa its first world cup for example?

Mvulusi, is this interview of JR Marot you're referring to?

Exactly until today in both wenge's and some other groups some guys only make the trip lists when they end up accepting to do some things
it reminds me of anecdote in 2003 in cultura,after one trip abroad before another which was a private concert to a president i think obiang,wazekwa organized a reunion and confronted the group especially female dancers,and said i was told by all my staff that many of you went to sorcerers to make it on list(back then wazekwa strictly wanted no more than 20 people,not even 21) we are not defining any list until i know the truth and after minutes most female dancers admitted they did stuff to try to seduce him,because they were told so by people around,and so did some guys and admitted they were doing it since the first europe trip of 99 ,and he said ok you know what i will go with only two dancers olga and ursule who still swear in the name of Jesus and their family that they nothing and make it a playback and from now on whoever is involved in any sort of mystic things i dont want to hear anything as soon as i notice you better  leave or i'll take you to police myself,because if you start to get ready to sacrifice cows and chicken at some point it will become humans thats why when bercy started going strange,they started monitoring him and his fake death was the final proof that he was not normal anymore
and from that moment,in  most of the period before they go abroad,he either rents hotel rooms or allocates some of his houses so that they live together and they can control if somebody did not go to get whatever to curse either him or a colleague and one atalaku came to test like that doing mystic prayers before test(when brandon joined maison mere)he cancelled rehearsal and forced eclipse to start doing bercy parts instead of a replacement
or when ambassy started making tours fally used to joke "petit na nga okoti hein,ca va hein",kind of alluding that he went to do stuff to enter and never leave again lists

Wow so that means that some of the cultura members would have to do some type of spell on Wazekwa to be made on the list. I would've fired everyone who did it or tried to cause hat can put you at risk.

I thought Ambassy said in an interview that he's Christian and that as a grown man he can't just change like that. If that's what it takes to get on concerts lists then it's bests that the people who always stay behind stay because at the end a trip to another country or city in Congo is nothing compared to an enternity in hell.

Do not take the words of people always seriously, how many times God (Nzambe) is mentioned in Congolese songs? Werra, Koffi, JB, everyone speaks abkut God how.much they fear God how much they are christian but the truth is coming up little by little.and those are just hypocritical have you seen Taddet interview, he was like i am glad my brother Bonbin made it and I am here with my friend to say that he will not die and then we find out.he was the one behind the Bonbon attack, really do not take people seroiusly especially in this time, women, man, and all the people saying one thing may mean another

Then his own musicians fired him from his band for not being serious and being addicted to drugs.

  . This is hilarious. I remember seeing a video of him rehearsing with his band a few years ago in what looked like an unfinished buiding. And then him doing that interview with Papy Mboma where he kept saying he is still with Werrason but not a Maison Mere member.

Speaking of spiritual stuff in music or sports, somewhere between 2004 and 2008 if am not mistaken there was a live wrestling match between Zambia's Tiger Boy Nkandu who had made a name as a very good wrestler against Lubandi Mulozhi of DRC. What happenned during the wrestling match, i would not believe it if i had not seen it with my own eyes. It was as funny as it was scary because the match ended in less than 5 minutes, with "Tiger Boy" being knocked out without even being touched. Quite clearly Mulozhi was using some spell on his opponent to incapacitate him. The match ended in controversy with the Tiger Boy surrendering and later on protesting about Mulozhi's spiritual attacks on him. Lol

https://allafrica.com/stories/200502030170.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/congolese-boxer-overpowers-opponent-with-magic-spell-1529888.html

But what i fail to understand is why these footballers don't use their voodoo/kindoki to win Africa its first world cup for example?

Ahahahahahahah I don't think they do, and even if they were doing I think it will be chaotic I mean Congo doing it then Zambia doing it then Nigeria doing it who will win though lol, anyway as have you seen Kindoki or Spiritjal stuff it is a short results strategy, Congolese people aren't known aorldwide, Robinio failed miserably after accepting the Kindoki shit, and Taddet and Miel really never had the chance to be star like Heritier or Brigade, especially with Miel i remember that he was quite unlucky, I mean Kakol blocked his solo album, he hadn' had the shine after Heritier's departure as everybody were expecting and how much songs did he added in his career? Taddet on the other side got a little bit luckier I remember him at the beggining on that 2003/2004 concert with Braids unfinished grown besrd and with evil look, Werra kind of "civilized him" during the time, he was humble and poor at the beginning yes, but became "rich" and arrogant with the time, I remember when Ali Mbonda got crazy when Werra offered Taddet the choice to choose for him and other people a car to being given, he had choosen him, Miel, Oliviera and a bunch of others with Ali being called by Werra because he was screaming and saying that Taddet is not reconnaisant since he was the one who helped him settle when he was a no one im Wenge, saying like "How many golden disc you have made to have a car, which song habe you made on your own that everybody danced to" now I think that also that was spiritual because Werra could habe given Kakol or to himself the responsabilities to give the car, car whi were sponsored and offered by Gilles Massua, which I doubtly think he is a wizard himself, I mean he cannot five that amount of money and gifts to Extra Musica, Werrason, and many others Congolese artist without being involved in some strange scheme

Then his own musicians fired him from his band for not being serious and being addicted to drugs.

  . This is hilarious. I remember seeing a video of him rehearsing with his band a few years ago in what looked like an unfinished buiding. And then him doing that interview with Papy Mboma where he kept saying he is still with Werrason but not a Maison Mere member.

Speaking of spiritual stuff in music or sports, somewhere between 2004 and 2008 if am not mistaken there was a live wrestling match between Zambia's Tiger Boy Nkandu who had made a name as a very good wrestler against Lubandi Mulozhi of DRC. What happenned during the wrestling match, i would not believe it if i had not seen it with my own eyes. It was as funny as it was scary because the match ended in less than 5 minutes, with "Tiger Boy" being knocked out without even being touched. Quite clearly Mulozhi was using some spell on his opponent to incapacitate him. The match ended in controversy with the Tiger Boy surrendering and later on protesting about Mulozhi's spiritual attacks on him. Lol

https://allafrica.com/stories/200502030170.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/congolese-boxer-overpowers-opponent-with-magic-spell-1529888.html

But what i fail to understand is why these footballers don't use their voodoo/kindoki to win Africa its first world cup for example?

adjani is the first guy in history to have been fired by his group 3  times with 3 teams lol