This song was wrote by Gipson Butukondolo and released on the album Force de Frappe.
If you pay attention very well, you will hearing that Koffi indirectly admits that he use withcraft andexposing his employee Gipson Butukondolo.
In this song Gpson is singing that they said to him to use withcraft but that he refused(I think at the time that he was bandleader in Matadi, before joining QL) because it is useless and then at the end of the song (before the seben), Koffi indirectly admits that he use withcraft and singing that people said to him to searching fast for succes but that he refused(refering to the time of Ngounda/Diva)and he's also reacting at Gipson's vocal. Singing that Gipson does not have to cry, because in his own heart he owns very well that he use withcraft even if he is denying that.

ahhhh oza danzéééééééé
otimbi penza

Interesting,it's been a while since I listened to this song, listening to it now and the lyrics are very clear,i wonder what inspires these guys to write such songs, is it sheer ignorance or witchcraft is really that deep in Congo?

yes unfortunately it is quite deep,especially in congolese music
dont know if they continue doing it but few years ago,no way you will join maison mere,bcbg,quartier latin,viva and co if you dont accept doing it,even if you are the best singer of the universe they dont care you have to serve or go away
and even if you do it on the back of your leader,when he will hear instead of being angry he will say yes you really care about your career and the group
the only leader i can remember who kicked many musicians out of his groups because of their love of witchcraft is wazekwa

...........and most of these musicians pretend to be staunch catholics and having started their careers in choirs etc,very sad indeed.

and that 'WITCHCRAFT' is so true and strong that it can confuse Mvulusi96 and DJ SLY to call it 'WITHCRAFT' lol

now i must ask. nkisi ya bankoko or witch craft? to me there is a difference. as africans we are the originals with regard to magic. magic in and of itself is not bad in my opinion. it is how you use it. if you are using it to attack others or making pacts with satan then that is evil. otherwise i find this all interesting. i wonder what you all think of this distinction.

there is a quote from mama miriam makeba that says it best.

"people in the western world, they didn't believe that we had our own doctors. when the invaders of our continent came, they called them WITCH DOCTORS. and something which i always say you can't be a witch and a doctor at the same time. YOU ARE EITHER A WITCH OR YOU ARE A DOCTOR"

are these musicians dealing with WITCHES or SPIRITUAL DOCTORS. that's the question.

however usually when it comes to wishing for things like SUCCESS and FAME, satan is usually involved so i may have answered my own question. i just wonder what you all think. My family on the congolese side is very christian so this is a conversation i can not have without jesus christ coming into the conversation. To them all forms of indigenous spirituality is evil or demonic. I don't agree with that. Anyway, any thoughts regarding my comments are encouraged please.

there are both actually,they start with nkisi ya ba nkoko and are initiated later on to pure satanism especially the ones with massive potential (koffi,jb,werra,fally,ferre and co)
let me give you an example,guys like kabossé see witchdoctors and the result is that even though he does not have a very strong fanbase like ferre and fally,is always touring in areas of congo,whereas many of his colleagues struggle to play three concerts a month in kinshasa alone(more or less the same can be said for bill clinton even though he digged into satanism aswell)
then you have the group of  fally ferre werra and co who go very very far,they sacrifice people and all that
for example,jb and werra in there first 50 or so concerts in congo there were deaths and spokesmen and some band members were proudly saying it on tv,as to show how succesful they are
there were also many reserve musicians who were sacrificed in both wenges,but it never made the news as they were unknown guys (those two groups test hundreds if not thousands of musicians every year)
what is said about koffi  that he makes the sign of a cross on the girl's forehead after sleeping with them is true adn after that most of them struggle in life(i personally know a girl who slept with most leaders, she is very strange now when i see her i change roads lol)

and that 'WITCHCRAFT' is so true and strong that it can confuse Mvulusi96 and DJ SLY to call it 'WITHCRAFT' lol

Hahaha, the new windows auto corrects what is being typed and sometimes it suggests the wrong words especially words it cannot recognise.  :lol:

<cite>@archos said:</cite>
there are both actually,they start with nkisi ya ba nkoko and are initiated later on to pure satanism especially the ones with massive potential (koffi,jb,werra,fally,ferre and co)
let me give you an example,guys like kabossé see witchdoctors and the result is that even though he does not have a very strong fanbase like ferre and fally,is always touring in areas of congo,whereas many of his colleagues struggle to play three concerts a month in kinshasa alone(more or less the same can be said for bill clinton even though he digged into satanism aswell)
then you have the group of  fally ferre werra and co who go very very far,they sacrifice people and all that
for example,jb and werra in there first 50 or so concerts in congo there were deaths and spokesmen and some band members were proudly saying it on tv,as to show how succesful they are
there were also many reserve musicians who were sacrificed in both wenges,but it never made the news as they were unknown guys (those two groups test hundreds if not thousands of musicians every year)
what is said about koffi  that he makes the sign of a cross on the girl's forehead after sleeping with them is true adn after that most of them struggle in life(i personally know a girl who slept with most leaders, she is very strange now when i see her i change roads lol)

interesting stuff archos. it is very sad the lengths people go for money and fame.

<cite>@archos said:</cite>
there are both actually,they start with nkisi ya ba nkoko and are initiated later on to pure satanism especially the ones with massive potential (koffi,jb,werra,fally,ferre and co)
let me give you an example,guys like kabossé see witchdoctors and the result is that even though he does not have a very strong fanbase like ferre and fally,is always touring in areas of congo,whereas many of his colleagues struggle to play three concerts a month in kinshasa alone(more or less the same can be said for bill clinton even though he digged into satanism aswell)
then you have the group of  fally ferre werra and co who go very very far,they sacrifice people and all that
for example,jb and werra in there first 50 or so concerts in congo there were deaths and spokesmen and some band members were proudly saying it on tv,as to show how succesful they are
there were also many reserve musicians who were sacrificed in both wenges,but it never made the news as they were unknown guys (those two groups test hundreds if not thousands of musicians every year)
what is said about koffi  that he makes the sign of a cross on the girl's forehead after sleeping with them is true adn after that most of them struggle in life(i personally know a girl who slept with most leaders, she is very strange now when i see her i change roads lol)

I remember when Sankara de Kunta said that their where 18 injured fans and 48 deceased people at their concert in Cabinda around '98, before JB's arrival in Kinshasa.

<cite>@mvulusi96 said:</cite>
I remember when Sankara de Kunta said that their where 18 injured fans and 48 deceased people at their concert in Cabinda around '98, before JB's arrival in Kinshasa.

voilaaaaa,nzoka ndé balekisi batu ya ngani
mawa trop

 i translate what i said in english,i said sankara rejoiced at 48 deaths as a sign of werra's popularity,this was a sacrifice
48 dead people is normally a drama which requires condolences and serious mourning but they were happy to announce it

<cite>@archos said:</cite>
ahhhh oza danzéééééééé
otimbi penza

Aaah ouais, Liboso nazalaki ko comprendre vocal ya Koffi vraiment te. Kutu nazalaki kobanza que ezalaki mbuakela contre Wemba to JB, mais nayaki decouvrire que ezalaki nde reponse contre Gpson, tangu nayokaki nzembo ya ngo bien.

Ba message code ezalaki ebele na musique congolaise. Kutu expression "batie yo mbeli na mokongo" elingi koloba nini? Es-que ezali makambu ya Ngwa ? Psq na interview ya Thierry Diawu, tangu aye kolongo Fally pona mis-en-disponibilte alobaki que azalaki tres mystique(mystique ya nini? ya nkisi?) po Sam Tshintu amekaki kotia ye mbeli na mokongo mais esimbaki te.

oui oui eza code,kotia mbeli na mokongo eza lokola ba bendi yo ngenge,soit nakopesana mboté soit a travers bilamba soit na ndenge ya kotalisa epayi ya nganga
yango wana wazekwa alobaka souvent mikongo mosusu etutaka mabele té po koffi ameka yé na ndenge tout mais pamba
ba champions ya makambo wana eza jb na werra,batindana ba mbula na ba concerts,babuekalana ba crises ya liboma tout ca
chance bango deux deux fois té na ngenge sinon moko na bango adaya kala

<cite>@archos said:</cite>
voilaaaaa,nzoka ndé balekisi batu ya ngani
mawa trop

 i translate what i said in english,i said sankara rejoiced at 48 deaths as a sign of werra's popularity,this was a sacrifice
48 dead people is normally a drama which requires condolences and serious mourning but they were happy to announce it

Ouais ce vraiment triste. If you listen to the manquette album of Solola Bien "Maison Mere US Live studio", you will hear Baby Ndombe shooting 20 Ans succes bakangaka moyi te vieux, Phenomene. Is that refering to the 20 year non-stop succes pact that he got from Marie-Paul. I know that in the period 1997-98 (before Force d'Intervation Rapide) Marie Paul was on his top. But is that story about that pact between him and Werrason true ? If that is true can give us more details ? It's two weeks now that Fortis Mavangi "Nkolo Budget" died was that a sacrifice of Marie Paul for Kimbombi? Because I didn't see him on video of the matanga at youtube.