Chikito killed me with story of JB saying that Wemba & Koffi are finished and him talking about Zidane & Ronaldo.

Ferre could have used that story of Chikito & Fally dancing in front of Kofffi & him in Koffi’s office in première soin, but he surely forgot it.

It was Fally? LOL

I understand why Fally is so bitter toward Ferre. Ferre had him on the ropes for a decade. Between that and Ferre becoming Koffi's favorite in QL. 

Wenger Leaders are strange, they make Koffi look like a saint. The imitation oh JB its on point lol "ehh ba petit bino bozo boule que bino nde bato bosala mukulu"

Yeah man you’re right they make Koffi look like a saint, the fact that he said the difference between QL and BCBG is that in QL you don’t have to go through chiefs to meet with Koffi he’s easy to access whilst with Jb you have to go through so many chiefs, and he only ever spoke with Jb 3 times during his time in the group. So weird

imagine, being in a group but you have only ever spoken to the leader 3 times during your time in the group.

loool yaya if you spend two days of rehearsal in clan wenge you will laugh and cringe even to go salute the boss at times you have to wait on the chiefs  to make a sign to you to approach otherwise you can see a bodyguard push you on a code given by one of the chiefs "ozo kende wapi dii zala bongo,boni ba vitesse boye"
now they have made an effort though but in those days mannnn you a mayindombe for example in maison mere or  them ppu in bcbg you go and stand next to jb or werra that you want to talk whaaaaat  you'll get " sss ahhhh de la foret  with him nodding his head in disbelief that you dare approached him and get a good rude answer" you'll get "ehhhh tala petit oyo omoni nga masta na bino? ozo ya pe o pesa nga mbote na bengi yo?"
 i think its also an "heritage" leaders have been carrying throughout generations, a guy like robinio is not even afraid of cameras if he wants to tell his musician who did a mistake "you are lucky that there are big heart people like me who hire you otherwise you'd be a kuluna somewhere with that ugly face"

Our music reaches a very very harmful dimension, it's really unfortunate. You can be a leader and another person a simple musician but what is the purpose of being so haughty when the person is simply trying to greet you or show you some form of respect

That is the reason why youngsters do not care about Ndombolo and Gaz Mawete, Innoss'B are going the solo route and even guys with limited group experience like Materazzi and But Na Fillet are taking the solo route. It is better to have your own music and become successful rather than being in a group where you don't get paid, you get insulted and treated like less than a human being. Than they wonder why Fally and Innoss rack all the views

Chikito killed me with story of JB saying that Wemba & Koffi are finished and him talking about Zidane & Ronaldo.

Ferre could have used that story of Chikito & Fally dancing in front of Kofffi & him in Koffi’s office in première soin, but he surely forgot it.

It was Fally? LOL

I understand why Fally is so bitter toward Ferre. Ferre had him on the ropes for a decade. Between that and Ferre becoming Koffi's favorite in QL. 

Fally's influence is inctedible. Chikito totally forsaken music and yet still dare to not say Fally's name in a humiliating situatiom, anyway, even if Ferre told that story about Fally getting humiliated in front of Ferre journalist will say he is bitter because of whatever reason.

Why Fally still have complexes towards Ferre? I meam Fally has the bigger platform, the bigger audiemce, worldwide, ladies love him, but it feels like Fally still feels Ferre is on top of him

Lol Ferre can't win. No one mentioned him and check this comment

bro some congolese people are like that,few days ago ndombolhino posted something old of werra and koffi i think and the most liked comment was comments roasting jb who was not even involved  in that video

Lol Ferre can't win. No one mentioned him and check this comment

Wtf

guys about the talking to leader thing,they mean talking outside music,which they were not doing much since leaders were letting chiefs ruling a lot,instead of the boss talking to you you'd hear " pres alobi ",also i think the way group started becoming bigger played a role because where groups were 10 to 25 max like the original wenge bcbg,the quartier latin of bercy,the original maison mere..it was tight units with the leaders more involved
now they have made an effort on that,also at times they were avoiding talking to musicians because they'd have for example to pay treatment of the aunt of a musician,a nephew kicked out of class and things like that

Wenger Leaders are strange, they make Koffi look like a saint. The imitation oh JB its on point lol "ehh ba petit bino bozo boule que bino nde bato bosala mukulu"

Yeah man you’re right they make Koffi look like a saint, the fact that he said the difference between QL and BCBG is that in QL you don’t have to go through chiefs to meet with Koffi he’s easy to access whilst with Jb you have to go through so many chiefs, and he only ever spoke with Jb 3 times during his time in the group. So weird

I mean guys I don't know what you expected to hear. At work do you talk daily with the president of the company? No.

JB is a very busy man with multiple business vemtures and music is his less important, Chikito was just a singer back tham he hadn't had the time to acknowledge him

Music isn’t the same as a normal everyday company. What kind of comparison is that   

Chikito killed me with story of JB saying that Wemba & Koffi are finished and him talking about Zidane & Ronaldo.

Ferre could have used that story of Chikito & Fally dancing in front of Kofffi & him in Koffi’s office in première soin, but he surely forgot it.

It was Fally? LOL

I understand why Fally is so bitter toward Ferre. Ferre had him on the ropes for a decade. Between that and Ferre becoming Koffi's favorite in QL. 

Fally's influence is inctedible. Chikito totally forsaken music and yet still dare to not say Fally's name in a humiliating situatiom, anyway, even if Ferre told that story about Fally getting humiliated in front of Ferre journalist will say he is bitter because of whatever reason.

Why Fally still have complexes towards Ferre? I meam Fally has the bigger platform, the bigger audiemce, worldwide, ladies love him, but it feels like Fally still feels Ferre is on top of him

Yep, Fally and his online goons got everybody shook. It has also to do with the fact that Fally fanship is made of a lot of women and effeminate men, so they like to argue a lot. LOL.

Yep. Fally has still that chip on his shoulder when it comes to Ferre. That complex will never go. He's like a person that got bullied when he was in school, then he became more succesful than his bully but he still feels fear whenever that bully approaches him. He seems traumatized.

I think that deep down, despite being more succesfull, more rich, more demanded, etc. deep down he still feels like in the QL days when Koffi was praising Ferre despite Fally being there. Ferre is still seen as the better artist/singer, despite being less succesfull. Fally still can't stand it.

Wenger Leaders are strange, they make Koffi look like a saint. The imitation oh JB its on point lol "ehh ba petit bino bozo boule que bino nde bato bosala mukulu"

Yeah man you’re right they make Koffi look like a saint, the fact that he said the difference between QL and BCBG is that in QL you don’t have to go through chiefs to meet with Koffi he’s easy to access whilst with Jb you have to go through so many chiefs, and he only ever spoke with Jb 3 times during his time in the group. So weird

I mean guys I don't know what you expected to hear. At work do you talk daily with the president of the company? No.

JB is a very busy man with multiple business vemtures and music is his less important, Chikito was just a singer back tham he hadn't had the time to acknowledge him

Music isn’t the same as a normal everyday company. What kind of comparison is that   

Lol I know it’s a weird comparison

thinking about it since the koffi wemba rivalry,all the rivalry which arrived after the one who "won" cant just ignore the one who lost,despite koffi having a better 21st century than wemba he still had some sort of obsession about bokul especially who has made it more global in his career,jb and werra jb is given for dead for almost 20 years now but maison mere still has guns charged in any case ,ferre fally same story even worse,maybe innoss and gaz will follow

thinking about it since the koffi wemba rivalry,all the rivalry which arrived after the one who "won" cant just ignore the one who lost,despite koffi having a better 21st century than wemba he still had some sort of obsession about bokul especially who has made it more global in his career,jb and werra jb is given for dead for almost 20 years now but maison mere still has guns charged in any case ,ferre fally same story even worse,maybe innoss and gaz will follow

Of course Innoss is the clear winner of that. Gaz can't even dream or dare to have the success of Innos eh Petit Gazi si ozua ba 83 miliom na video Petit Gaz?

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So the boss also gets a cut from the mabanga money for a musician's song in the album (this is more like the mafia style way of kicking up the loot to the boss)?

I feel for the dancers who have to sleep with even non entities on the promise of being on the list of Europe tours.

The Wenge stories makes me understand why @Mfumu Vata says the generation of clan Wenge are not 'musicians'. Lol. More than a year in a group and you only talk to the boss three times!

Is Yondi Yamamoto in Paris? I wud love to hear his story especially for the fact that "azalaki kobanga trop, akanisaki akoya te a kendaki  kosenga recour epai ya grand saudien po aya".

yes there is always a percentage from songs to the boss thats part of the game,and now unlike in the past leaders want you the musician to ask to your donor to fund clip too