Author Topic: ADO YUHE SEEMS TO NOT UNDERSTANDING RISK  (Read 6954 times)

Manzambi94 on: May 31, 2020, 17:52

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Ado Yuhe needs to stop these interviews it seems that he doesn't understand the dangers of Corona Virus
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Wenge1995 #1 on: May 31, 2020, 19:06

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Let's be fair, the guests are not children. They knew the risk and still accepted the face to face interview. Ado should do his interviews over Instagram live, WhatsApp, or some conference call. But if they want to see him for a sit down interview, it's their prerogative...

archos #2 on: May 31, 2020, 19:16

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To be fair the fear of corona is slightly fading in france,since medias is not bombarding people every day with 100+ deaths daily,i have seen people much closer than what ado does,i can even say i saw a threesome from my door in the park in front of my house :D :D :D :D :D

CM PRINCE #3 on: May 31, 2020, 19:20

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Hang on this is an interview with the legendary drummer Djudjuchet... why are we only focusing on the risks about the corona let’s talk about this legend and listen to what he says.

archos #4 on: May 31, 2020, 19:23

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I am at the ostelmac part so far and all he said so far is true,the way jb and fally got a bit big headed with success,his advice to fally that if koffi praises droit chemin it would be bad for his image and so on
the part i liked the most is when they start groups and leaders say "thats our group" and once success rises they become like " hey calm down thats my group behave or i will kick you out"

CM PRINCE #5 on: May 31, 2020, 19:24

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I am at the ostelmac part so far and all he said so far is true,the way jb and fally got a bit big headed with success,his advice to fally that if koffi praises droit chemin it would be bad for his image and so on
the part i liked the most is when they start groups and leaders say "thats our group" and once success rises they become like " hey calm down thats my group behave or i will kick you out"
I am due to watch it soon but once you’re done if you can do the summary it will be much appreciated

archos #6 on: May 31, 2020, 20:23

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he said he work with grand zaiko victoria eleison ... and played with koffi on papa bonheur just him and koffi on guitar and they collaborated until ultimatum where he played the singing parts which champion playing sebenes and the same thing happened later when he played with werra on solola bien and kibuisa and adolphe's songs of intervention rapide with kakol playing sebenes and he said kibuisa was recorded live on many songs especially the sebene ones which is why people could feel such energy he has worked with almost every big group of drc except jb's simply because jb never contacted him
He said when he meet wenge 4X4 in their first europe tour  he said "good job ba petits" and jb replied "te toza ba petit te toza likolo" which was their slogan but which sounded like proper direspect so makaba and blaise rushed to apologize to him not to take jb's reaction too seriously and  he even gave his sticks to titina as titina did not bring sticks
he played in 4000+ songs around the world throughout his career and even also with the young generation like mignon abraham on his album once again letting titina play sebene parts ,he played on droit chemin many songs and he said what hurt him is that they had to perform in one of the first if not the first ever fally solo concert in europe and david monsoh and him discussed the price for the musicians and he also said that koffi did not agree really to let the quartier latin musicians play,they were afraid to play and he convinced them and koffi kinda accepted in the long run them playing in both albums but most of droit chemin was not done by active quartier latin musicians of then
he said when they were about to have that concert he told david monsoh to pay every musician 400 dollars and david said it was too much and they argued until finding compromise for 200 each and he said he would only come to play drums when he has confirmation that everybody has been paid and then jimmy mbonda called him to say it was okay and when he arrived at some point he went to toilet and he saw fally moaning to his staff "is that guy serious about wanting to be paid 400 dollars,does he think people we come there to see him, i could perform with a curtain hiding musicians and people would still come" and he heard it and pretended not to but he could see in fally's staff eyes that they had understood he heard and later on his eyes  crossed again with fally in the concert and fally looked at him like "you are annoying me" but he did not hold grudge towards fally and later he called fally who was in kinshasa and told him  he was foresseing great things for him so he should not  react against koffi  and he adds that if koffi had praised album it would have created a bit less attention than the way koffi did a bit of polemic,it lead to people looking  to listen to that album which koffi was indirectly attacking at times and created huge buzz for him fally
he said they collaborated for second concert and popolipo called him to say he was not participating because he was unhappy with treatment,and he says he worked on an american project in paris about a 2pac album reedition or something like that an it is were fally meet olivia and got that universal contract and later on he called the guy  to ask how it was going hoping for good news since he wants the best for fally who is his petit from bandal and the guy said they were abandoning the deal,your artist is not serious and things like that
he also talked about leaders behaviour and said when they start projects they are humble and they will tell you words to make you feel commited to their cause but once they get glory and fame from their project they become different
it goes from "our group" to "hey its my group behave"
he also talked about author composer and says normally singers cant be author composers unless they play instruments and they actually created both the lyrics and the melody of the songs which is very rare andthat one day he got asked at french copyright company about how congolese singers doing albums credit themselves at author composer while they are in majority of the cases simple interprets
he was asked about the accoustics of ferre and kabose and said its not pure accoustics its accoustics with a jack to enhance sound but its good

SLK97 #7 on: May 31, 2020, 20:50

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What Djudju said about bandleaders is true to a T, no cap. I guess he's been there as well. It seems that almost every leaderless Congolese band delves into a leadership struggle whenever they achieve success. If there are at least two leaders, one of them's either not satisfied, is adamant the whole band was his idea or knows very well he's the most popular member and so he wants more power, hence the ego trip. Reminds me of what happened to Academia and Les Marquis.

Manzambi94 #8 on: May 31, 2020, 20:59

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What Djudju said about bandleaders is true to a T, no cap. I guess he's been there as well. It seems that almost every leaderless Congolese band delves into a leadership struggle whenever they achieve success. If there are at least two leaders, one of them's either not satisfied, is adamant the whole band was his idea or knows very well he's the most popular member and so he wants more power, hence the ego trip. Reminds me of what happened to Academia and Les Marquis.

Is Congolese people in general all those Dadju, Maitre Gims, Niska, Naza etc. Are Congolese and speak Lingala yes but they have another type of culture, Congolese people from Comgo with power always deals with things like that if you have a little power you start to belittling people, humiliating them, calling them names but then cry and moan whem youneed help, in Music, Politics etc. It is like that, and furthermore people will do anything to have some power over you. As you all see even religious singer have these kind of Super egos. It is funny that in the Congolese world Stromae, Maitre Gims, Niska, Youssoupha etc. Have more success than Fally (which is the top in Congo) and all the other leaders despite Congolese leaders having big egos

Paysan Congolais #9 on: June 01, 2020, 19:59

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What Djudju said about bandleaders is true to a T, no cap. I guess he's been there as well. It seems that almost every leaderless Congolese band delves into a leadership struggle whenever they achieve success. If there are at least two leaders, one of them's either not satisfied, is adamant the whole band was his idea or knows very well he's the most popular member and so he wants more power, hence the ego trip. Reminds me of what happened to Academia and Les Marquis.

Is Congolese people in general all those Dadju, Maitre Gims, Niska, Naza etc. Are Congolese and speak Lingala yes but they have another type of culture, Congolese people from Comgo with power always deals with things like that if you have a little power you start to belittling people, humiliating them, calling them names but then cry and moan whem youneed help, in Music, Politics etc. It is like that, and furthermore people will do anything to have some power over you. As you all see even religious singer have these kind of Super egos. It is funny that in the Congolese world Stromae, Maitre Gims, Niska, Youssoupha etc. Have more success than Fally (which is the top in Congo) and all the other leaders despite Congolese leaders having big egos

I don't agree with you. These musicians you named are not better than congolese musicians. You just don't see it because they don't have bands.

It has nothing to do with Congo culture. In fact, it's the opposite. The more our musicians differ from our culture, the more arrogant they get. Fally is the prime example.

Just look at the US music scene: rappers and rockers are full of ego. Even more than your average congolese band leaders.

Huge egos come with fame.

I remember BoyZ II Men, after the success of their first album, being very disrespectful toward Babyface. Modern music/show biz like that.

Paysan Congolais #10 on: June 01, 2020, 20:03

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I enjoyed the interview, but mainly because it was DjuDju Chet.

Ado is not built to interview a guy like DjuDjuchet. Also, it needed to be longer, even 3 hours (Drink champ style). This guy has so much knowledge and stories to pass on

Mfumu Vata #11 on: June 02, 2020, 12:46

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I thought that Ado would asking questions start with his career in Victoria Eleison or Grand Zaiko Wawa and why/how he settled in Europe. But he started immediately with his session career, after finishing with his childhood. Not even asking want motivated to start with it, because most musician stopped with their career when being settled in Europe. He's a real faux journalist, but his interviews he makes with former musicians of the 1997-2006 generation cover it. 

Hmmmm so those breaks Champion did in Loi are Zinga's creation? Because he said that he rehearsed Ultimatum and Loi with Quartier Latin in Kinshasa. I think that Ado don't know who Johnny Pacheco is, if he knew him, that he would so repeat like 3 times "so you met Johnny Pacheco".

I always thought that Zinga joined Victoria Eleison in 1984 to replace Patcho Star, when Victoria Principal was formed, but I was there from there from day 1 along with the new musicians Cartouche Pambu & Malembe Chant. But I don't remember to have seen him in Victoria's first concert at Studio Maman Ngebi.

Wow so the musician of Quartier Latin were forbidden to participate on the Droit Chemin-album until that Zinga talked with Koffi. I didn't knew that Fally was that hypocrite guy. I was shocked when Zinga said how bad he talked behind is back. I always thought that he was very humble and that fame changed his behavior. But it seems that he has always been that way and that he facked his personality on tv, acting like a humble guy. It won't surprise me if someone coming from Fally's would reveal one day how bad he was talking about Koffi when enjoying the success of Droit Chemin.

Yeah, I remember Awilo's show in Libye for Kadhaffi (being the only African artist on that event) along with European and American artists. If it was Kinshasa-based artist who performed at the place of Awilo, then we wouldn't have the opportunity to drink, they would repeat in several times in interviews and even sing about in songs.

I didn't except that Al Nzimbi was that kind of a guy. Imagine I'm sure that we would have heard those programmed drums like in Feux de l'Amour, if Zinga didn't participate on Kibuisa Mpimpa. His touch in Obiang, Ntima Mbote, Waka Waka, Destin Ya Moto and Fair Play were special. It a shame that he was busy with the Eboulement Totale-album of Wenge El Paris, when Maison Mere was about to work on A La Que Leu Leu. The album would be on another level, if he participated. The same Al Nzimbi also arranged A La Que Leu Leu, but look how those drums sounded.

Ado Yuhe is very limited when interviewing those legends. If you listen well to the interview, Zinga gave him indirectly multiple occasions to ask questions to go further. But Ado didn't take those opportunities. For example how the original Victoria Eleison of les 12 apotres used to be and how Emeneya managed to made it a band of his own, when Zinga talked about the way Denewade showed the contract that Emeneya said with Veve in front of Santana Mongoley and Debaba in Brazzaville, which made both guys furious and Debaba form his own band Historia Musica with Historia Musica (I remember watching an interview of Emeneya in 2000, where he was still mad about that and saying "Ba Debaba wana, lelo akoma frere" looking furious). Also Ado often cut him when he was about to go something important. There was a point where he said that Verckys asked him why Manuaku Waku let him go to Victoria Eleison, after him hearing drumming on the song Benedictions and was about to explain why he left Grand Zaiko Wawa but suddenly Ado went to cut him. Also when he was about to talk to Tofolo Kitoko's (R.I.P.) importance in Victoria Eleison (I'm sure that Ado doesn't even know him).

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CM PRINCE #12 on: June 02, 2020, 14:06

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Everyone knew Ado would not be the guy to interview this legend. I want to see Djudjuchet go on another platform and explain his story properly from start to finish.

Manzambi94 #13 on: June 02, 2020, 14:16

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Everyone knew Ado would not be the guy to interview this legend. I want to see Djudjuchet go on another platform and explain his story properly from start to finish.

What is the name of the guy with dreads who does those instagram interviews? He would be a better interviewer it seems that with him everybody get really comfortable. They do it with Ado too but

Mfumu Vata #14 on: June 02, 2020, 14:20

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Everyone knew Ado would not be the guy to interview this legend. I want to see Djudjuchet go on another platform and explain his story properly from start to finish.

What is the name of the guy with dreads who does those instagram interviews? He would be a better interviewer it seems that with him everybody get really comfortable. They do it with Ado too but

Lodia H20, he's normally a MC and atalaku. Musicians of the 4th and 5th generation suit him better, to interview guys of the 2nd and 3th generation would be difficult for him, since that information of that era is rare and it takes a lot of time to get documented if you aren't from that era.