I’ve always wondered why did he leave Maison Mere before the recordings of Force D’intervention Rapide. There’s another concert with him and Maison Mere on YouTube but I can’t find it, I think it was deleted. I wonder how it would’ve been if he stayed in the group.

He was not liked much by some of the guys so it was not easy for him  the leader backing him about that the most  was didier masela who was clearly the least powerful of the 3 leaders of maison mere so he ended up leaving then later teaming up with masela to create a group called wenge musica 4X4 but the group was weakened very quickly by other musicians poaching members after a couple of tv appearances then later he went to zaiko  until the zaiko return from europe ten years ago

Why didn’t they like him? Was it because of an area he was from or because he was backed by Masela? And do you think he’d have fitted well in Maison Mere if he stayed

i think its due to the fact he was a(more recent than jdt) muana poto who could have got "too much favor"( the type of guys who werra would have a symbolic test for while he backs him 500 per cent in reality)  he could have fit in well for me but not at the start if he arrived say after bercy for example it would be easier,people were unfairly belittling jdt as a poor singer with ki pembe saving him and it would have been a second case while maison mere needed a strong singing section(which helped werra tolerate mabiala and adjani despite their lack of dancing skills) to counter the majestic titanic singing team
so somebody like baby ndombe won over werra in the 2eme voix section to got with mabiala and jdt

Choulay left because of the trip to Cabinda. After having performed in Point Noire, they started the recordings of Force d'Intervention Rapide and they received a contract for Cabinda during the recordings. The way they went to Cabinda wasn't pleasing all musicians especially Choulay who came from Europe. They went in a truck with pigs, chickens and goats from Kinshasa to Cabinda, back in those days the road of Kinshasa to Matadi was really bad, let alone the one of Matadi to Boma,  the one that brings you from Boma to Muanda/Banana and the boarder of Cabinda being of sand (when it rains you do 4 days to get there).

When Maison Mere returned to Kinshasa, Choulay went to Manda Tchebwa announcing his departure from Maison Mere, calling Wenge Maison Mere a faux orchestre, that travels with animals and other stuff (I forgot it since that it's more than 20 years ago). Shortly after it they deleted the few vocals he had in Force d'Intervention Rapide giving it to other musicians. Back in those days Choulay wasn't really believing anymore that Maison Mere would get the fame, that they it got after Force d'Intervention Rapide. Because back in those days the had alot of mpiaka in those public concerts they were giving in the areas of Kinshasa, teaming up sometimes with Marie Paul to get some public.

During the same trip to Cabinda Werrason did 12 on Masela, using Adolphe (many people say that Werrason was manipulating Adolphe to do some dirty jobs on Masela, but Adolphe still deny it until this day). I forgot a big part of the story, I remember that Werrason had to go along with Didier Masela on a jet or helicopter to Cabinda, but Werrason went without him with Masela ending up to get in that truck with those animals (he was very pissed off that day) along with Adolphe and the rest of Maison Mere. When they had came in Cabinda, Masela and Werrason argued about it like the way they did in Pointe Noire. From that moment the war between Werrason and Didier Masela really started. Christian Mabanga often refusing to give the bass-guitar to Didier Masela or if Masela had just played 2 songs, Christian would come agressively to him say that he had to hand the guitar to him and disrespect him. Didier Masela then also coming later then Werrason to concerts, to show Werrason that he was the real leader and founder of Wenge. (I guess you saw his entrance at Palais du Peuple, but just a part of the audience paying attention to him).

oh yeah i forgot about he cabinda trip,many the roads back in the days were something

oh yeah i forgot about he cabinda trip,many the roads back in the days were something

What is or was the problem between Baby Ndombe and Chou Lay, because it seems that they can't stand each other. I remember Chou Lay ignoring him in an interview back in the past and Baby Ndombe getting attacked in a radioshow of Cesar Ngadi by a spectator because of having attacked Chou Lay (I don't know what he said, because the extract started on that moment).

like i said baby kind of took the spot which was destined to chou and also they were having a common sugar mommy so they almost fought once when one arrived and the other was coming out of the door putting back his belt and pulling the jeans up kiekiekie ahhh ba musiciens yeah i remember the interview with cesar ngadi

This is the other concert I was talking about